Habituation-Hearing Footsteps, Walking And Running
Posted 11 January 2013 - 11:38 AM
Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:37 PM
Posted 11 January 2013 - 12:41 PM
Since they may be your neighbors I guess it depends on your freak-out level and how well you want to get to know them.
I forgot to add that I think Florida Readers advice about not feeding everyday is sound.
Edited by VioletX, 11 January 2013 - 12:53 PM.
Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:15 PM
Posted 11 January 2013 - 07:40 PM
Would love to hear those recordings Bipedalist!
Posted 11 January 2013 - 08:14 PM
Posted 12 January 2013 - 01:31 AM
It's your call how you want to handle gifting. We usually limit gifting to once every few days and with small amounts of food. Our thinking is that we don't want them to become dependant upon us. I think it is good that you are giving the gifts some distance from the cabin.
I've been wondering about the feeding everyday and how wise that was. That's actually what I've been doing so I wonder how they'll respond if I back off?! Got home this afternoon and had a good look around down in the woods where I've been hearing them. Where I saw the eyeshine last night I found a bunch of snapped off saplings on the other side of the tree. And in another spot further down the tree line I found a spot that looked like something had been siting. There were a few snapped off saplings there too. I put a web cam connected to my laptop out on the porch tonight aimed at where I leave the apples every night. If that apple is gone in the morning I'll definitely be nervous watching that video! I meant to leave a recorder down there too but there's a chance of rain tonight and didn't want to damage the recorder. Been reading the habituation section and totally amazed with the people's stories there. Thanks for the responses!
Can you confirm they have not thrown anything in your direction, and that they haven't torn up the saplings as a threat display? If neither of these things has happened to you, then you are probably on pretty good terms with your nocturnal neighbors.
What can you expect? Probably nothing bad. The youngsters will come very close to your house. Worst case, they may even get on the roof. Make sure you lock your doors and windows when you aren't around.
Have they left you any gifts in return?
Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:49 AM
Edited by Kings Canyon, 12 January 2013 - 02:49 AM.
Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:56 PM
Posted 12 January 2013 - 04:25 PM
I have seen both the eye reflection and glow around our home. I live about 15 minutes from the Great Smoky Mountains National Park and have seen both there also. That's actually where I had my first encounter which by the way was eyeglow. I am a believer in both types eye shine and can definitely tell a difference.
Mostly what I have encountered on our property is the glow. Almost LED like. Usually an aqua blue/green or amber. I haven't seen the red yet in either location.
Florida Reader- Great to hear from you on this post. I've read a lot of your postings on the Habituation board...mind boggling stuff!
The only "throwing" incident we've experienced was this past summer...about 2-3 months after we moved in. While I was at work my wife was out in the driveway with our two small dogs. By this time we were already having a sense "they" were possibly on the property. She thought she heard something up the hill behind her. When she turned around she saw a rock flying across the driveway coming from the direction of the woods up the hill. It wasn't coming at her, but not too far from her.
She said she stood there for a second looking in that direction and then just turned back around acting like she was ignoring it. Nothing else happened after that. She truly amazes me by trying not to show them fear!
The sapling snaps are very odd. They're not very big at all, more so like a small 2-3' sprig. Usually they are snapped off very cleanly about a foot from the ground. Almost like someone used shears. It's always around areas that look like someone has been sitting/sleeping. My theory is maybe they are snapping them off with their fingernails out of boredom while waiting for us to either come out (so they can watch us) or waiting for us to go in (so they can come get the food we leave out). Here are a few pics of some I found behind our house in the woods. They surrounded a small secluded clearing that looked like something or somethings had been hanging out.
They have left a few gifts over the past year: A turkey feather, a mushroom (pulled up, roots still attached and laying on a stump in the back yard), a couple of rocks and an antique looking snuff can lid! They did bring back our two bird feeders they took this past summer. Found them at the edge of our yard. One had been missing for 4 months and the other had only been gone for a few days. Of course they were empty!
Update on last night- I did leave a webcam attached to my laptop out on our porch last night aimed at an apple I had left out down the hill. You could barely see it due to how dark it was (we do have a security light that helped). Turned out we had a sneaky possum crawl up and carry the apple off in his mouth!
On the other hand, I did have quite an experience last night. We had a campfire out back last night and stayed up pretty late making barred owl calls and just having conversation. It was about 1am when everyone went inside, but I stayed out on the porch for about 30 more minutes listening. Right before Christmas I put out 2 homemade corn feeders. One at each end of the property down the hill from our house. They are basically a 5 gallon bucket with a hole in the bottom and a stick hanging out the hole. When the stick is bumped corn fall out. Both can be seen from the porch during the day through the trees as there are no leaves this time of year. As I was sitting there listening I started hearing movement and a very loud "crunching" sound coming from the direction of one of the feeders. Soon after I started hearing the stick bump against the 5 gallon bucket. We have absolutely NO deer around our home, but yet "something" was eating our corn. A few minutes later I decided to go on inside in case they were waiting on me to leave and in hopes of getting something on video. I took a shower before heading to bed, but decided to walk out on the porch one more time before doing so. It was between 3 and 3:30am. As soon as I quietly stepped outside I heard a rattling and crunching sound coming from where I leave a feeding bucket hanging from our pear tree in the back yard. When I look in that direction it is completely dark except for a small amount of lighting from the security light in the front yard. For about 2 seconds I see the bucket moving around and disappear again. About 10 seconds later the same thing happens again. This happens about 5 times and the whole time I'm hearing crunching, rattling and wrappers "crinkling". Then it hit me... "I always hang that bucket on the "other" side of the tree!" Due to where I was seeing it, either something was holding the bucket or it was floating in mid-air and 8 feet off the ground at that! After about 45 seconds everything got quiet. I wasn't about to go out there and check it out so I waited until this morning.
What I found was an empty bucket that was hanging back where I had originally placed it and two 14" long footprints under the tree. I never did see what was holding the bucket last night, only the actual bucket being held, moved around and all the crunching. The contents of the bucket included peanut brittle some popped microwave popcorn, an apple and some raisins.
Sorry for the long post, but this is all just so amazing to me. Thank goodness for the Bigfoot Forums!
I also meant to say the raisins package was on the ground with most of them still in it. Evidently this one doesn't like raisins.
Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:38 PM
Do you have any idea how close they are coming to your house?
Are you planing to take deer there?
Posted 13 January 2013 - 08:56 AM
They seem to come fairly close to the house. The back yard incidents we've had are only about 20 yds away. I have a recording off my front porch of some type of whispering in the middle of the night. I have no clue what it's saying though. Sounded Native American?? A couple of times we've heard what sounded like what I can only describe as a "chewbacca moan" outside our bedroom window. Also what sounded (and felt like) something hitting the back corner of the house two different times. This last time it shook the whole cabin. We had been gone out of town for about 5 days during Christmas and had gotten home around midnight. I was bringing our luggage in from the car and my wife and I were standing in the kitchen when it happened. We were both like "what the heck was that?!!" Actually thought maybe someone was in the house. Looked all around inside and out...nothing.
Posted 13 January 2013 - 09:02 AM
Have you posted any of the recordings or taken any photos of the prints?
Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:29 PM
Be sure to keep your doors and windows locked at night and when you are not there. I may be repeating myself.
The adults will likely honor your wishes, but the youngsters seem to go all over.
Did they break your bird feeders?
Posted 13 January 2013 - 06:44 PM
Have you had a problem with them coming inside your home? We are very sure to lock up whenever we're gone OR there. Even the screen doors on the porch stay locked.
The bird feeders, not broken at all. Actually the one that had been missing for 4 months looked like it wasn't even dirty. It looked like it had been kept somewhere dry and out of the weather. I'll try to post some pics of those here.
I do have some pics of the footprints we took yesterday morning and a video of a footprint I found a week ago. Both are under the bucket we leave in the tree. I have to come into town to use the internet so it may be a few days before I can get the video loaded up to youtube. I'll try to put a couple pics of the footprints up in the next day or so.
Posted 13 January 2013 - 06:58 PM
I would let them see you more often, if that's possible.
I might also be wary about using any camera or motion detector that emits any infrared because they might be able to see that themselves. Sounds crazy, but you never know. I would get more acclimated to them, and them to you, before you tried capturing them on film.
Posted 13 January 2013 - 07:01 PM
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 07:10 PM
The solar powered light is a weird story. I don't like to blame every little incidence on these guys, but I just don't know about this one. A day or so before I found the feeders and light, my wife and I were out in the front yard talking about a few things we'd like to do around the outside of the cabin. I mentioned to her I wish we had a few more solar powered lights like the one we have by our front sidewalk (I have one by our front door that we brought with us from our previous home). When I found the feeders a couple days later there was this light right beside them! Another weird thing is that it's just like the one we already had! Somewhere in our community I'll bet somebody is missing a landscaping light.
It's just crazy things like this that have happened over the past 10 months we've lived here.
Posted 13 January 2013 - 08:12 PM
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