BigTreeWalker

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  1. Norse, can you say for sure that all those cougar kills are what they seem to be? And all the stumps are torn apart by bears? Do you find tracks identifying the animals at every location you find? Because I sure don't. One thing I have found in my studies is that cougar feeding sites and bigfoot feeding sites are very similar. More similar than any of the other animals.The point I was trying to make, at least in the area where we are going, is that there is enough evidence of foraging to include bigfoot. That IS what you were originally getting at. There are lots of smaller animals that no-one would even notice if they were being fed on. I know we don't find all the evidence of foraging that a cougar or a bear leave. The bones aren't piled all in one place (although I've heard it reported that such places have been found) and the ripped stumps are spread out over miles of territory. I've said it before, if bigfoot exists and has been living in the ecosystem for thousands of years then that same ecosystem would be able to sustain what you have decided has to be mass devastation just to stay fed. Their dietary requirements would not have changed in recent years. Other people have found similar evidence on bones as we have. I've contacted some. Sometimes I get a response, other times I'm still waiting. It may be a WAG but I think it's a reasonable one. Very similar to what I've calculated as well. For those that have a problem with those numbers, divide it by 200 instead. You still get some interesting numbers. Another thing I thought I would mention is that no, we are not tripping over bones everywhere. We walk through the forest spread out like a search and rescue team to see what we can find. Sometimes it works, most of the time we find very little. And no Finding Bigfoot wouldn't. We've never found any bones in the dark. That's a daylight process.
  2. Let's be honest here and look at some numbers for known animals. Cougars kill the same amount of deer per year as Norseman's estimate for a bigfoot requirement. In areas such as WA state were cougars are known to fill every available niche of habitat that fits their needs, how many cougar kills has anyone found to support those numbers? There are a lot more bear numbers in the state than cougars. Does anyone consistently find evidence of all those bears foraging for whatever it is they are finding to eat? Are we able to tell the difference between the above mentioned animals and bigfoot when evidence of feeding behavior is found? In the area we research we have found over two dozen elk and deer kills now. The age of these sites are within the last two or three years. Some show the evidence we are looking for in possible bigfoot feeding behavior. Elk are a lot bigger than deer so the requirement for animals killed is a lot less than would be required if deer were the only prey. This area is about 2 square miles. So if it's a cougar doing all this killing and feeding it's only about a 50th or less of a cougar's range. Makes me wonder how much we haven't found in a larger area. So with those numbers and considering a larger area, there is more than enough evidence to support a couple cougars (male and female, since only their ranges overlap), some scavenging black bears and a few bigfoot as well. So I beg to differ when it's said there is no evidence of feeding. I have no idea what the bigfoot population is but look at it this way; when researcher encounters, sightings and finding fresh evidence occur at the same time over large widespread areas it is not the same individuals we are seeing or experiencing. Unless portals are coming into play.
  3. The mental picture I got of the area around the cast was dry according to Thom Powell's account. The fruit was placed in the center of a drying up mud hole. Meaning approach to the spot without leaving tracks would have been fairly easy except near the center of the mud hole. As many here have brought up, no elk tracks in the center of the lay is very telling that it wasn't an elk. I mentioned hair patterns as Joe mentioned above near the beginning of this thread. Elk hair patterns should have been fairly easy to determine. Don't fall into the erroneous idea that bigfoot leave tracks everywhere they go. If we are walking through an area and not leaving any tracks, bigfoot probably wouldn't either. You would be very hard pressed to track a bear very far through the forest in the PNW. The same holds true with any animal with padded feet. You will find an occasional track in the dust or a soft spot now and then but that's about it. If the skookum cast was surrounded by dry ground it would be hard to find tracks of anything but elk.
  4. Yes it seems you sure are. I thought these forums were a place to share experience, useful knowledge and discuss bigfoot, not a place to provide proof for those that have to have it. I could phrase your question in a different way too... What is your data base doing for you?
  5. I agree with MIB in that it is a food availability issue. Fires and clearcuts provide that, given a few years. The native Americans knew this. They used to burn large swaths to rejuvenate the huckleberry fields. However, I would like to interject also that bigfoot is a species that has shown the requirement for cover, i.e. SWWSP 's observations support this. If their numbers are few, as many believe, then would their movement into an adjacent area, with more cover, have any consequences to them? If there are more than some believe, we don't know if they are territorial. Maybe they get along with each other better than we do. Has anyone recorded what might be considered a bigfoot fight?
  6. I was out in the field today. One of the few nice days we've had this winter. Found another elk kill today probably cougar. But the thought that animals move out of an area due to food supply is not supported in the wild where there are few migrations. Their populations will fluctuate but they don't leave. Today from a high point I counted 80 elk in a small area in the valley, less than a square mile. They rotate through an area and move up and down with the snow levels, but they don't leave. If the herbivores are available for food in an area then the predators that feed on them will also be nearby. But this is western WA and herbaceous food is always abundant. Hiflier, you could use available knowledge from those that live in an area for information about fires, drought or logging that you are wondering about. I can tell you that there have been very few large forest fires in SW WA for the last hundred years. So other than a few square miles here and there they are not a large factor. Of course eastern WA is a whole other ballgame. Logging here is business as usual. Since we don't know how it affects sasquatch in the long run, anyone's guess is as good as mine. Drought other than lack of rain for a month or so doesn't really happen in western WA. There is always water available nearby. Springs may dry up in the high country, but the creeks and rivers still flow. But then this part of the country is prime bigfoot habitat.
  7. Well considering he probably spends most of his time in his pickup and probably doesn't get too far from it when he is out and about; he would have a hard time finding our cams (they are well hidden or 16' off the ground) seeing as how they are a mile or so from the road. Someone did remove a couple of my research partner's cams last year, but they were placed along a couple overgrown roads that people do occasionally walk up. So that could have been anyone. That was before I started being more creative on how we place cams. Besides we didn't tell the warden what we have found up in there, so he had no reason to be curious.
  8. It has definitely been a bad winter in the PNW as SWWSP said. Either snowing or raining constantly. What with my work schedule and weather I haven't gotten out as much as I would like this winter. Most people don't venture far from their homes or cars into the woods this time of year. Two areas where we do research have been designated elk wintering areas, so access is limited, no people no sightings. The WDFW do keep an eye on these areas too. Ran into a game warden the other day. We were where it was OK to be. He was coming out of the valley which is off limits til June. He said he ran into two big herds of elk in there. So if sasquatch were following those elk and helping themselves occasionally; who would know except the warden, who probably wouldn't say much anyway. My partner told the warden why we were in the area so he wouldn't think we were poachers. We were servicing cameras and placing audio for our research. It didn't elicit any response from the warden. So if he had anything to say on the subject he was being tight-lipped about it.
  9. If you are smoking in the woods there's really no need for any of the scent-free hassle, just watch the wind direction. I have taken pictures of myself with my trailcams with my gear on. I have a camo fleece jacket that shows up white, with no pattern, in IR light. So much for camo. I wear it because it's comfortable. The wind and movement are either your best friends or enemies in the woods. More to the original post. I remember reading in Robert Pyle's book where Bigfoot Walks, his mentioning trying out his birthday suit in the woods. But he did it for his own experience. Although who knows what might have been watching.
  10. The flip side of the hoaxing coin also to leads to the fallacious conclusion that everyone who spends time in the outdoors and has a sighting or finds evidence is incompetent.
  11. You can see more of it and discussion on Paul Graves Facebook page. https://m.facebook.com/paul.graves.169?ref=content_filter I wonder if he has any pictures of it before he walked along side?
  12. You are right Norseman. If there wasn't something compelling there, even with all the hoaxes, then why are we even bothering?
  13. Thanks Norse, it was a great list, with which I concur. It's also interesting that stumps being torn apart is on the list, because, unless we see them doing it, it's only possibly a bear. I do agree with the claw marks being bears though. Flipped rocks are also a good sign of bears in an area (but that one has the same problem as stumps), unless there are tracks nearby. But looking at your list, just be careful what you throw out as evidence (not proof) of bigfoot being in an area. Because some of those items were on your previously posted list as to what should not be used to determine bigfoot presence in an area.
  14. Norseman, I do have to ask what evidence do you use to determine if there is a bear or a cougar in the area? And how do you know for sure without seeing one? Just a simple list of what you would look for would suffice.
  15. Since he posted those with this one I'd say he's just pulling everyone's leg. To be polite about it.
  16. BobbyO, the homeowner sightings in winter in the Olympics would seem to support the hypothesis stated by several people here that they move into the lower elevations with snowfall. The Olympics would be an excellent place to observe this behavior because the whole range is surrounded by lower elevation, more human populated areas. But even around the Olympics there's a lot of country where they could move into and never be seen.
  17. His grandfather never mentioned them because he probably never saw those photos with the bigfoot in them. The circles are photo shopped not hand drawn. And Old dog you are right not too creative with the images except the last one. If those are wild geese they probably wouldn't be standing there with anything live like that in the background.
  18. And cripple foot is also well known because both Krantz (who examined the tracks) and Meldrum discussed it in their books, probably others as well. And Bossburg WA is famous for something. I believe it's also close to where Norseman is.
  19. I have a couple areas I go into where we find evidence of their presence fairly consistently. If that's what you mean, then yes. But not all places I've been in are like that. Of course I've also found that if you are more familiar with an area you're more apt to see things you wouldn't notice in areas you aren't familiar with.
  20. I have to wonder about the decreases in the Olympics during those same periods of increase in the southern Cascades. Because there were no major fires there. There are so many variables to look at. One thing I also know, at least in the last few years, with the exception of this winter, we have had some very mild winters in the southern Cascades. That would mean more people in the woods year round. Unless those high percentage increases occurred during the spring, summer and fall months.
  21. Did sightings increase in BC during the periods of increase in the southern Cascades? Because that is to the north. The biggest fire in WA state history, the Carlton Complex fire burned almost 400 sq. mi. In 2014. It burned on the south end of the Okanogan National Forest. There were more fires to the north that year and around Lake Chelan to the west. But even with all those fires there were still forested corridors east to west many miles wide that a bigfoot could retreat to or pass through. Within a month after that large fire there were deer, bear and coyote a mile or so back into the burn area. Not much to eat for herbivores but the deer were there.
  22. I relistened to the Kryder video I posted. He talks about the Sykes testing @ 18 to 20 min. What he said was the sample were supposed to go through a preliminary ID process. But it seems that didn't happen because Sykes came up with some known animals that should have been eliminated but weren't. Kryder's sample was a good viable sample, which he verified to come from the subject species within less than a minute of passing, wasn't tested. He was informed much later the sample was sent to Switzerland to be tested at a later date. At 34 min. Kryder addresses the issue of having sent more samples to Dr Meldrum later to get tested locally. Again finding out later that they had been sent to Sykes, even after agreeing otherwise to stay local. The whole point off his discussion was an integrity issue. They aren't doing what they say they will or claim to be doing. Hiflier I also noticed that after I asked my questions in the video thread, you started this thread here. Just to share them I will repost them here. Because I still believe those issues need to be addressed. I have real difficulties with DNA studies. I'm constantly seeing information about getting DNA of some obscure animal or human from fossil finds and yet it seems we can't get a DNA test from a supposed extant creature. Whether we can compare it with anything or not is not the point. We should be able to test it as an unknown at least. I have to wonder how much that testing of the obscure fossil finds costs and how accurate it really is. In a lot of those tests we don't have a comparison sample on hand if the subject is extinct. It does make a person wonder what is going on. Contamination is also another bigfoot go to. I have to ask how a sample found in the ground after thousands or even millions of years hasn't seen some kind of contamination or degradation? If there is anyone knowledgeable here about these points please feel free to set me straight. Because they are reasonable questions that deserve an answer.
  23. My take on that one Seatco is that something created a rotten spot in the center of the tree there, a branch possibly. The outside wood could no longer withstand the stress and gave way.
  24. I emailed a request for information about dead bears and cougars found in the wild to the WDFW. This is the answer I received from a biologist in Wenatchee. Quote- Thanks for the note. We do keep track of every known mortality statewide. But outside of legal kills, poaching (not many), and roadkill we only see 1-2 unexplained deaths for bear and cougar per year. Cougars are much more territorial than bears so it’s likely there are more undocumented deaths due to fighting that we don’t know about. They also die from injuries sustained during prey acquisition (like getting gored by an elk antler) about but finding them is a challenge. Bears die for other [reasons] too, but they live a much more gentle lifestyle being omnivores vs an obligate carnivore like a cougar. So short answer is yes we do keep track, but the tally is very low, and certainly not complete. Thanks for your interest. Hope this helps ********************************** Bear & Cougar Specialist End Quote So if we calculate those numbers with respect to cougar and bear population numbers we end up with 0.1 % of the estimated 2000 cougars in the state of WA and 0.008% of the est. 25,000 bears in the state. That is if 2 dead animals are found. Also, as he mentions, an omnivore like a bear is less likely to be found and we still don't know how bigfoot treat their dead. So from his answer I would say that the likelihood of finding a bigfoot body is very low even if they aren't buried. Regardless of how healthy I think the bigfoot population is in the state there are probably less than 2000. If we use that number and the dead bears found percentage we would end up with 0.16 bodies found per year or one every 6 or 7 years. In that period of time bones are scattered, buried in the forest floor or just plain gone. That is with 2000 individuals. That puts it in perspective, which is what I was trying to do.
  25. Which I interpret as meaning, we really don't have much to go on. But I do find those tables interesting G.