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  1. ^Epic ! haha !
  2. gigantor, haha ! That was a good one, if not a little evil if I do say so myself ! haha ! dmaker, Don't recall it. But you do recognize Meldrum isn't the first scientist or scientific institute for that matter to change their findings...yes ? I reckon we've all been there. Pat...
  3. dmaker, Not sure the didn't do so well a few April Fools ago ? An Jeff changed his opinion with further study, I don't need to go into a list of other scientists, groups or institutions that upon further reflection have changed their opinions do I ? Pat...
  4. Don't think it pass the keep it clean in the Comedy section, haha !


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  5. haha ! Foghorn Leghorn....
  6. xspider1, It has always baffled me as to why a complete skeptic would even bother bein' on a bigfoot discussion forum, haha ! I can understand folks on the fence, or skeptics...but a few here...haha ! I wonder if they start threads like these on unicorn forums or minotaur forums ? Pat...
  7. dmaker, Have you ever talked to folks who claim to have had a sightin' ? Maybe some folks are into this larpin' stuff, I can't say for sure. But myself, nope. I've talked to a elderly couple, who simply claimed to see a road crossin', nothin' fancy, just a quick road crossin'. It was funny, cause he said this grey upright thing crossed the road, his wife smacked him in the arm, looked at me an said it was brownish, he's colour blind. All she said was it looked big, harry an bent over, an it crossed the road. I've talked to a Native guy my sister-in-law knows, only reason he talked to me about his sightin' is because she asked him to, he didn't like talkin' bout it. I've talked to a few who have told me of sightin's by folks they wouldn't question their honesty. Nothin' grand or excitin', simple non extraordinary sightin's if it wasn't for the subject matter. "This also helps explain what I've always seen as an incongruency of action with proponents, particularly witnesses. Here you have someone that claims that without a doubt they have witnessed a hulking, 8 foot ape-man near to populated areas (many, many reports are nearby populated areas), yet they do nothing about it." Just my opinion, but I don't think folks are big on talkin' bout somethin' most don't believe. If you had a sightin', say a road crossin' at night, big as, hair covered, say a massive stride to cross road in two steps. Would you stop to investigate ? Would you tell folks ? Pat...
  8. Heya Twist,


    This is copy of photo on back of carvin', not my copyright so I don't want to post it here, otherwise someone will copy an post it elsewhere. So do me a favour an keep it to yourself please.

    That's the carver's track on the left beside what he/they believed were sasquatch tracks. He used the shape an size of the track as the shape an size of carvin'. That's what I was told.



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    1. Twist


      Nice, thanks.  I'll not share this with anyone.

  9. "What people who engage in the adult role-playing game of Woods & Wildmen do with the reverence and worship of their social construct beast is to create an extension of their desires to defeat the mundane world, to have something larger than their boring, stressful, unattractive or otherwise insufficiently fulfilling lives.." "Bigfoot is not about the actual natural world. Bigfoot is how mostly middle-class white people, mostly men, exercise efforts at self-importance and overcoming social interaction impairment." "Most Footers we suspect deep down know very well Bigfoot is a myth but they keep a straight face and play Woods and Wildmen because it's fun and they get to meet other people who can reaffirm their maverick thinker status. Will you be at the Texas conference this year? You betcha, we'll roast some dogs. Bigfoot, so dumb it hurts." etc. etc.
  10. Heya Kevin,


    Just thought I'd say...may the best team win ! haha ! :drinks:



    1. SweatyYeti


      Hey there Pat,


      That sure was a great game, wasn't it?!! :drinks:  I just watched the NHL's highlight video...Rask came up really big, for the Bruins!

      I don't have Cable tv...so I'll only be able to watch the games which are broadcast for free. 


      Well, here's to another year of high-speed Stanley Cup playoffs, good buddy!!! :drinks: Enjoy!! 


      And...may the best team win! :) 


      Talk to you later, Pat,




  11. I've been to Alert a number of times, beautiful place, pretty isolated, most everythin' is located near the main street were the ferry docks. I don't think there are moose here on Vancouver Island. I was talkin to Fish & Game Warden couple years ago, bout a black bear down at the beach I'd seen here in Nanaimo. We talked about griz sightings at top of island, he mentioned they think there may be a small breedin' population of them up there...that aren't supposed ta be there. I talked to John about the vocalization on Alert when it was goin' on, was on the news here, thought I could help, my brothers wife has a lot of kin there. He had already been up there, was goin' back if I recall. I think most on Alert would be familiar with the wildlife sounds of the local animals, they grew up there, it's mostly Native. Short list, but scroll down to bottom...last two animals ! http://www.discover-vancouver-island.com/animals-in-the-wild.html
  12. Heya Wade,


    Regardin' those tracks, Paul Graves mentioned "" We walked out onto the back deck and looked down to see the same tracks we had been investigating all week. There was a well-worn trail of deer tracks coming from the road and down one side into the backyard—this is where the first print appeared (the track-maker had walked up the deer trail from the road into the backyard). The first print was pointed south and the next step is 13 feet from heel to heel. This print has a strange indentation adjacent to it. The step length then changes from that print to the next four, all at 6 feet 2 inches, perfectly inline with no drag marks. The sixth print was 10 feet heel to heel, the seventh print 9 feet 8 inches heel to heel. Rodger, the homeowner, noted that underneath the house deck is a motion sensing security light, and it was where the 10 foot step lengths were. The tracks continued on from the last one sideways/sidestepping to the edge of a three foot masonry retaining wall. The tracks then pointed east and leapt the other side of the wall. The prints were then side by side pointing back to the north with a strange drag mark in the middle. This is where the tracks were lost." 


    I asked him about the side by each tracks, this is his response...

    "Hi Pat yes they were side by side right after the last 9'8' step it side stepped then it looked like it jumped off the small retaining wall and landed with both feet side by side with a strange big drag mark between the feet , I sent you a picture of the track way and the side by side feet this is about a week after they were made and are melted out but they are the exact same tracks as the first tracks."



    He asked me not to post the image on the BFF, as he's waitin for Murphy to add it them to his report. So we have to keep this to ourselves till his report gets updated. I'm still not sure what to make of them, the side be each tracks...interestin'.



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    1. norseman


      It reminds me of this.




  13. Looks normal to me as well spacemonkeymafia, here's the link, short article. https://www.primates.com/misc/index.html
  14. Cool read norseman, I recall seein' a tv program in which chimps when sick would go out an search for particular plants to eat as medicine, so that our earlier kin did somethin' similar is expected. Cool that they found it though. Found this interestin' read... Date: 17 January 2002 Animal instinct Why do chimps chew on leaves that they clearly find revolting? And why do elephants risk death to extract rocks from a mountain cave in Kenya? Perhaps they know something we don't about staying healthy, says Jerome Burne Jerome Burne Guardian The field researcher watching a couple of chimpanzees in Gombe national park in Tanzania noticed something odd. One of them, known as Hugo, had left the path and started picking at the leaves of a plant called Aspilia rudis. The shrub was not part of chimpanzees' usual diet, unsurprisingly since its leaves are rough, sharp and extremely nasty to eat. Yet Hugo had not only sought it out but he'd also eaten the leaves in a particular way, carefully folding them up concertina-style and holding them briefly in his mouth before swallowing. From the way he was grimacing, it looked just as if he was taking an old- fashioned medicine. That observation in 1972 was to lead to a whole new way of thinking about animals and their health. At the time the notion that animals might be deliberately treating themselves with natural medicines was beyond the scientific pale. It's true there was no shortage of anecdotes about animals using herbs to cure themselves, cultures as far apart as China and ancient Rome have them and all pet owners know about cats and dog eating grass when they're sick. But until very recently, scientists dismissed such reports as romantic anthropomorphism. But, gradually, the researchers in the Gombe began to gather evidence to show that something very deliberate was going on. They found that Aspilia leaves were used by local herbalists for stomach upsets and that they contained chemicals which were both antibacterial and attacked gut parasites. What's more, other chimps were seen occasionally eating from 19 other plants that also had rough leaves, in the same way. The leaves were excreted whole and, when examined closely, tiny nodular worms that infect the gut could be seen wriggling on the barbs on the leaf surface. This is just one of dozens of examples of animals actively taking care of their health featured in a fascinating new book, Wild Health: How Animals Keep Themselves Well and What We Can Learn From Them. Far from self-medication being romantic nonsense, author Cindy Engel, of the Open University, shows that most animals routinely use a variety of techniques to deal with injury, infection, parasites and biting insects. They use plants, earth and even insects in ways that aren't just about getting energy or nutrients but are specifically aimed at keeping themselves and their offspring healthy. The implications are huge. Not just for how we should look after domestic and farm animals but for what we need to stay healthy ourselves. Compared with their domesticated counterparts - sheep, for example need seven de-worming treatments a year - surveys have found wild animals are remarkably healthy, muscled and lean, with few parasites. Significantly, they have often been infected with diseases that devastate domesticated animals without showing any ill effects - wild boar with swine fever or wild deer with tuberculosis. The farmers' understandable response is to shoot the wild "carriers", a more far-sighted view, suggests Engel, would be to discover just how wild animals generally stay so disease-resistant. Just as we don't usually take aspirins unless we have a headache, so animals tend to avoid medicinal plants unless they need them. At the Awash falls in Ethiopia, for example, there are two baboon populations, one above and one below. The tree Balanites aegyptiaca, the fruit of which is used by the locals as a de-worming treatment, grows in both areas. But it is only the lower baboons, which are exposed to a parasite spread by water snails, eat it. But plants aren't the only source of medicinal substances. There's a cave on the side of Mount Elgon, an extinct volcano in western Kenya, which has been mined by generations of elephants. It's estimated they have taken 5m litres of rock in the last 2m years. Access to it is tricky, but the animals are willing to risk death to get there. The bones of those who didn't make it line the trail. Once inside they dig out the soft rock with their tusks, grind it with their teeth and then swallow it. The rocks contain 100 times more sodium than they can get from the plants they normally eat, as well as being rich in potassium and calcium. Sodium is vital for all metabolic processes, especially for handling the toxins which are an inevitable part of a plant diet - an estimated 40% of plants contain some sort of defensive chemicals. This sort of preventative medicine can take a rather shocking turn. In the Shetlands and on the Isle of Rhum in the Hebrides the soils are poor and lack these nutrients, so the sheep and deer have discovered a novel source. They bite the legs off the living chicks of the local nesting sea birds to get at the minerals in their bones. Many animals also eat clay, which is not only an effective way of binding and excreting various toxins but, by lining the gut, it can treat gastrointestinal problems. Native people often mix clay with tannin-rich foods such as acorns before cooking them (tannins are bitter chemicals produced by plants as a defence but they are also active against bacteria and fungi). A type of clay regularly mined by mountain gorillas in Rwanda is very similar to the kaolin sold in chemists for relief of upset stomachs. Another good source of clay are termite mounds, and chimpanzees are often seen breaking off chunks of soil from them. In one close study of five chimps seen eating termite soil, all were found to be suffering from gastrointestinal problems. Most animals are plagued by small biting insects such as fleas, lice, mites, ticks and various parasites which can drain blood and inhibit growth, so they have developed a variety of ways to deal with them. Monkeys, apart from constant grooming, also rub themselves with soothing plants and even insects. Capuchins in Costa Rica, for instance, use the Piper plant, from the chilli family, which contains compounds that deaden pain and kill off insects. Catnip probably does something similar for cats. Capuchins also rub their fur with millipedes, which make toxic chemicals known as benzoquinones that keep other insects away, as well as killing bacteria. Birds do something similar with a technique called "anting". They lie out on an anthill and encourage the ants to crawl into their feathers because they secrete formic which can kill lice, mites and bacteria. But the use of nature's pharmacy isn't all serious Engel has come up with some controversial evidence that many animals and birds simply like getting stoned. Certainly elephants can detect the fermenting fruit of the marula tree from 10kms and will coming running for it. The Bohemian waxwing has a taste for rowan berries that have begun to ferment. The birds are often found in heaps, dead on the ground, having fallen off their perch. Postmortem examinations show they were drunk when they died and that they had acute alcoholic liver disease. So why do they do it? There is evidence to suggest that elephants drink to relieve stress - just like the double Martini executive. Elephants given access to alcohol drank twice as much when their stress levels were raised. A more prosaic explanation is that alcohol is a good source of calories and if times get hard, then it makes sense to stock up on fuel. Such an explanation doesn't work for the attraction that hallucinogenic plants seem to have for a variety of species. Jaguars, for instance, have been seen gnawing at the bitter ayahuasca vine used by Amazonian shaman, while bighorn sheep in the Canadian Rockies take great risks to get at a narcotic lichen. Engel's highly speculative suggestion is that animals' brains and, by implication, ours may benefit from an occasional boost from these potent neurochemicals. Whether or not we all need the odd bite of peyote is far from clear. What is certain is that our hominid ancestors ate a far more varied diet than we do. It was a diet that would seem very bitter and astringent to us but was filled with a huge range of potent chemicals, many of which would have been effective against parasites and pathogens. While chimpanzees are known to eat 123 different plant varieties in a year, even the most health-conscious westerner rarely consumes more than 20 or 30. Seventy five percent of our global food supply comes from just 12 crops. But while we would undoubtedly benefit from adopting a much wider diet and could learn lessons from animals about avoiding antibiotic resistance, there are some self-medicating techniques which will never catch on. Anyone for licking wounds or a daily anointing with urine? Wild Health: How Animals Keep Themselves Well and What We Can Learn From Them is published by Weidenfeld and Nicolson at £20. Jerome Burne is the editor of the monthly newsletter Medicine Today.
  15. Maybe ? http://www.bigfurmovie.com/ This one runs on a bit long, but gives a few different angles/views. Nother shot of it.