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Scary Sightings...

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^lol....i tried looking for the story Mr. See, but had no luck.

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Thanks, OS... I've looked and looked, too. I appreciate your efforts.

BTW - I love your avatar! LOL!

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The father's whoopin' was administered just outside of the home.

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How good did it get 'em?

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If my memory serves me correctly, he was thrashed within a hair of unconsciousness. He left the home and never returned.

I think the mother left food for it from that point forward.

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But...is it credible in your opinion?

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Who's to say if any of these reports are truly creditable, but it had everything - suspense, a helpless victim, an unlikely hero and a happy ending... Squatch-justice style!

It was a great account regardless. It seemed as creditable as many of the reports I've read.

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I love that story See-Te. I believe it, just because it has a good ending.

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Do you happen to know where it can be found, Gail?

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So sorry, I sure don't. I'll keep my eyes peeled for it though. I think it was on a BF section where there were pages and pages of stories listed in encounter type sections though.

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I ran across this:

http://www.bigfooten...assics/beck.htm

In Chapter 2 talking about the aftermath of the famous Ape Canyon attack of 1924, it talks about the the case of Jim Carter. Jim was with a large group of mountaineers that had climbed Mt. St. Helens, then were skiing back down the mountain...

"Bob Lee of Portland, a leader of the 1961 Himalayan expedition and adviser to last year's Himalayan expedition... was a member of a party that searched for Jim Carter, an experienced skier and mountaineer, who vanished on the mountain in 1950. His disappearance remains a mystery.

Somebody Watched

At the time, Lee was a member of the Seattle Mountain Search and Rescue unit. He described the search for Carter as "the most eerie experience I ever had." He said that every time he was cut off from the rest of the search party he felt "somebody was watching me."

Carter, he said, had climbed the mountain with some companions on a warm, clear Sunday. He left the group to take a picture and said he would ski to the left of the group. He was never seen again.

His tracks, however, indicated that he suddenly took off down the mountain in a wild, death-defying run that no experienced skier would make — unless he was pursued, Lee said.

The track went in the direction of Ape Canyon. But no trace of Carter or his equipment was found although the area was combed for two weeks."

I've read other references to this story, and apparently he skied over crevasses and took a direct downhill line in areas where it would have been apparent that his speed would have been out of control with the equipment of the day (you fall, you break your leg... no release bindings at that time).

I emphasized "The track went in the direction of Ape Canyon". The major changes in the mountain from the eruption of 1980 was toward the north. Ape Canyon is to the east of the top of the old Dogs Head, which was on the North side of the mountain. The condition of Ape Canyon, from the top down, is close to the same as it was then.

If you have a chance, use Google Earth to explore the upper end of Ape Canyon. If you are coming down the mountain toward Ape Canyon on skies, you wouldn't see it until it was too late if you were going real fast and didn't want or couldn't slow down.

It suddenly hit me after reading about this account again, that there is absolutely no good reason that a skier on a clear blue Sunday afternoon with great visibility and hardly any trees, would choose to go down into Ape Canyon. He was driven into Ape Canyon.

One of the most ancient methods of hunting is to drive game over a cliff. The top of Ape Canyon would make a perfect spot to drive game for a fall to the death. Several BF working in coordination could easily funnel him at high speed right into the trap. By the time he realized it, he wouldn't be able to stop because they would be on him anyway. His only choice would have been to keep his speed to avoid getting grabbed and hope for the best.

Has anyone found any newspaper accounts of this story? I've been looking since I read it a few days ago, and the earliest reference I could find was a 1963 newspaper story where Bob Lee is interviewed. There doesn't seem to be any coverage of the disappearance in 1950 - or of a ski-champion Jim Carter, period. It seems like if a world-champion skier disappeared, it would make the news for at least a few days.

This one seems more like Bob Lee having some fun with a gullible reporter than a true story.

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Good research leisureclass!

I did a real quick search and the only references I could find for Jim Carter (skier) were for the Ape Canyon story. Given that pretty much everything is on the internet these days, I find it odd that there is no mention of him in any other narrative. I am not ready to write this one off yet, but there are some questions that need to be answered. I would love to see just one reference to Carter in some other capacity to prove he existed.

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Good research leisureclass!

I did a real quick search and the only references I could find for Jim Carter (skier) were for the Ape Canyon story. Given that pretty much everything is on the internet these days, I find it odd that there is no mention of him in any other narrative. I am not ready to write this one off yet, but there are some questions that need to be answered. I would love to see just one reference to Carter in some other capacity to prove he existed.

Me too. I even had one of our interns search the news archives on Lexis (the lucky illegitimate son gets free stuff for doing searches) for the period 1945 and 1950, and nothing came up. I'm assuming, from Carter's supposed age, that he wouldn't have been active pre-WW2 and that there weren't many skiing events during the war.

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