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Bigfoot range and population speculation thread.

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15 hours ago, wiiawiwb said:

Does anyone here have a handle on the percent of total sightings reported that report a sasquatch on all fours? One percent, two percent, one-tenth of one percent? I'd welcome the truth, whatever it may be, but I just can't imagine the total number of reports of a sasquatch on all fours being anything more than the quickest of blips on a screen.

 

Has anyone done this analysis that can provide some verifiable information?

 

In the late John Willison Green's database there are a bit over 4.000 entries. Of those, 40 reports describe a creature on all fours so, a little less than 1%. Don't know about the BFRO as I didn't check there (though 6 of those 40 reports were sourced from the BFRO) - or our own BFF's SSR database. Only a fraction of the 40 mentioned the encounter as being brief- one specifically 6-15 seconds. A couple were at night like midnight or 3am. Most though were witnessed in good light with a time of duration from brief to minute to a quarter hour up to a half hour. One would think there would be little in the way of misidentification for at least the longer durations of a minute or more?   

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SWW- I would swear I've read that account somewhere, or at least one very very similar to it.

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7 hours ago, wiiawiwb said:

 

Language is important and what you said in this statement above is totally false. I said that if it was an event I was witnessing, rather than a fleeting glimpse, I would never make that mistake. I find it rather curious you left that qualification out.

 

Even in this response you state you would never make a mistake.   I bolded it for you.   So you declare yourself infallible.  In you own words,  you "would never make that mistake"   Throw in our out all the qualifiers you want, you have declared you WOULD NEVER make that mistake.  There is nothing I can discuss with you on this topic if you consider yourself incapable of making a mistake.  I'm not taking a jab at you, I was trying to avoid the subject altogether going further yet here I am responding again.....  

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Oh.  Well, you can avoid me, too, because I would not make that mistake, either.   There are 3 options: "clearly bigfoot", "clearly bear", and "I'm not sure."   You appear to be unwilling to accept that some of us will simply say we're not sure when we're not sure.   Why is that?  What sort of disingenuous trap are you trying to set, and why?

 

MIB

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^ Who are you talking to ? 

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Twist, if you can't tell the difference between a walking sasquatch and a walking black bear during an event, not a fleeting glimpse as I've differentiated, then I wish you all the best out in the woods.

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Properly addressing the question of whether significant numbers of people are misidentifying bears for sasquatch requires assessment of the report data, along with certain aspects of the human mind. Simply claiming that you personally wouldn’t make a misidentification, and using it in support of people in general not making misidentifications is erroneous, as people may differ. 

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23 minutes ago, wiiawiwb said:

Twist, if you can't tell the difference between a walking sasquatch and a walking black bear during an event, not a fleeting glimpse as I've differentiated, then I wish you all the best out in the woods.

 

:drinks:  I'll take any good wishes I'm given in regards to my time in the woods.  Camping is one of my favorite activities.  

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20 hours ago, guyzonthropus said:

SWW- I would swear I've read that account somewhere, or at least one very very similar to it.

It was either at a Portland Hopsquatch event or one of the Conferences I have attended.     I have been at several conferences that have a town hall thing where people tell about their encounters.   So you could have been at the same event I was or the witness might have been to another conference and told his story.   The fact that it was an Oregon Lake or reservoir makes it likely it was told someplace in this area.    That face to face encounter would have made a believer out of most.  I recall the man telling the story so it I heard it directly from him somehow.      Certainly the story is interesting enough that some BF blog could have picked it up and retold it for you to read too.    

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