Guest para ape Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 It has been said that it's plausible that a creature such as bigfoot could inhabit the vast wilderness areas of the western states but how do you explain sightings of the creature in a small heavily populated place like England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted August 30, 2011 SSR Team Share Posted August 30, 2011 Easy, lying or lunacy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest para ape Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I don't think it's that's easy.There are many reports from England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted August 30, 2011 SSR Team Share Posted August 30, 2011 No disrespect but you clearly have little idea about England if you think there have been many Reports of any type of unidentified Primate in England.. Give me 5 for me to have a look at please ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PaulGT3 Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I think England is pretty densely populated around its cities. More so than the United states. Because most of those cities were there hundreds of years ago, they needed to be protected so they stayed close to the center of the city. Once you clear the big cities there is PLENTY of open space for Farms, sheep ranches. Places to trout fish on the rivers, and fox hunts. THere are even places for off roading. There is no reason to think that BF with his skills of hiding could live in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted August 30, 2011 SSR Team Share Posted August 30, 2011 People, you should really not waste your time with thinking there are Scientifically unidentified Primates in England, because there are not, simples, for soooooo many reasons.. This Thread is not about England anyway, it's about the North American Wilderness.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kerchak Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 (edited) Yeah, sorry to go off topic again but England is just a no go for any bigfoot type creature. Practically the whole place has been walked over or fought over at various times in history then there is the agriculture, historical excavations etc (amateur and professional). There is no way any bigfoot or parts of bigfoot could have remained undetected and uncatalogued in England. There is no persuasive or consistent record of reports like in North America. Non native big cats, on the other hand, are another matter. I agree wholeheartedly agree K.. Another couple of Stats to give you an idea of what we're lookign at, now looking at Canada & the 2 Provinces ranked with the first & third number of Sightings... =========== British Columbia 357,265 Square Miles - Population 4,510,858 people. Vancouver Metro 1,111, Square Miles - Population 2,116,581 people So that's 0.001% of the Land Area of British Columbia, with about 40% of the total Population of the whole of British Columbia, within it. =========== Alberta 255,541 Miles Squared - Population 3,724,832 Edmonton 3,635 Miles Squared - Population 1,034,945 Calgary 1,972 Miles Squared - Population 1,079,550 So that's 2/3's ( Two Thirds ) of the Province of Alberta's Population in about 2% of Alberta's Size.. Too true Bobby. And what's more most of British Columbia doesn't even have major roads and for many areas the only way in is via plane or boat. I think I read there are only around half a dozen cross province highways. Is that right? Edited September 11, 2011 by ChrisBFRPKY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wudewasa Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 elderwine, Government land in the USA is designated differently from place to place. Areas deemed "wilderness" are found here: http://www.fs.fed.us/air/map.htm Wilderness designation means no logging, mining, motor vehicles and limited hunting. National forests can be found here: http://www.trailmonkey.com/USpages/map/NationalForest_US3.gif Logging, hunting, fishing and other recreational activities are allowed here. National parks: http://www.cohp.org/records/natl_parks/national_parks.gif Camping, backpacking, sometimes fishing are allowed, but not many other activities. Bureau of Land Management: http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/national.Par.54506.Image.-1.-1.1.gif Mining, All Terrain Vehicles, camping, hunting/fishing are permitted. National Wildlife refuges: http://wilderness.org/userfiles/CBB-Refuge-Map-2009.jpg Hunting, fishing, some camping On addition to Federal land, there are state parks and local community owned areas that have been set aside for green space. Hopefully this helps to sort things out for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elderwine Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Thanks, you have all given some excellent and informative responses as well as some cool links that make it easy to visualise. I cannot say that we have any true wilderness left here in the British Isles, as we have been populated for tens of thousands of years, and farmed for several thousand years. The countryside here has changed a great deal because of this. Our largest forest is called Kielder. It is man made and it is approx. 250 square miles in area, which obviously pales into insignificance compared to North American forests. As for UK Bigfoot sightings..... There is a thread on here about a large BF type creature being encountered on Ben Macdui, Scotland, although to me this seems more a paranormal entity than any kind of actual hominid. Also a few years ago there was a sighting by some fishermen at a lake in Northumberland, England. (Incidently the same county as Kielder.) link here - http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100local/page.cfm?objectid=12562655&method=full&siteid=50081 I really don't know what to think about this, but I seriously doubt they saw a physical, actual 3D being, we just don't have the space here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 We've got plenty of wild, forested, and largely uninhabited terrain in North America, some of which would qualify under just about any definition of wilderness. That's what we have. Y'all can guess what I think we lack in those wilderness areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted September 1, 2011 SSR Team Share Posted September 1, 2011 We've got plenty of wild, forested, and largely uninhabited terrain in North America, some of which would qualify under just about any definition of wilderness. That's what we have. Y'all can guess what I think we lack in those wilderness areas. Spotted Owls ?? Sorry Sas. Here's another interesting tidbit people.. The thing i'd say to bear in mind is how unevenly spread the population are within the States they are added to IE 82% of the 300m US Citizens ( that's nearly 250m people ) reside in Cities & Suburbs of those Cities.. So you take those out & we're talking about less people than are in the UK being in the US & potential BF Habitat, yet in an area that is x 40 the size of the UK.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States & if you haven't seen this, give thanks to Mr Mulder for adding it to another Thread.. http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/wilderness-resources/stories/more-trees-than-there-were-100-years-ago-its-true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elderwine Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 On the BFRO website they have a couple of layers for Google Earth you can download showing BF sightings by year/category. Interesting to see that a BF hotspot, the Sierra Nevada Mountain range, although slightly smaller, is almost equal in size to mainland Britain. That's big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted September 8, 2011 SSR Team Share Posted September 8, 2011 On the BFRO website they have a couple of layers for Google Earth you can download showing BF sightings by year/category. Interesting to see that a BF hotspot, the Sierra Nevada Mountain range, although slightly smaller, is almost equal in size to mainland Britain. That's big. Here's a much better GE Program which includes the BFRO's too, plus others.. http://penn.freeservers.com/bigfootmaps/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kerchak Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 We've got plenty of wild, forested, and largely uninhabited terrain in North America, some of which would qualify under just about any definition of wilderness. That's what we have. Y'all can guess what I think we lack in those wilderness areas. Many people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Saskeptic, on 31 August 2011 - 05:10 PM, said:We've got plenty of wild, forested, and largely uninhabited terrain in North America, some of which would qualify under just about any definition of wilderness. That's what we have. Y'all can guess what I think we lack in those wilderness areas. Many people? Try any evidence to support his Skepticism... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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