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Can we please keep this to the MUNNS REPORT? in case Bill ever comes back he doesn't have to weed through pages of your petty off-topic arguments?

 

 

 

Bill,

Can you verify that Mrs' Patterson's copy , which you studied and scanned, is an unedited, 100foot long copy of the entire 100ft. Camera original roll?

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Drew,

 

I think Bill is inactive these days. Have you tried emailin him ?

 

Pat...

 

Thanks, 

I may try that, or just wait til he checks in.  We've waited 50 years for answers, what's a few more months?

It still doesn't explain why the thread have to go off the rails.

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Just a word to the wise. Any further off topic comments could result in your being Banned from this topic.

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Squatchy McSquatch

Drew: 

 

Bill has 3 email addresses listed in the Contact Us section of the Munns Report website, should you wish to contact him directly.

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ThinkAboutPools

Who is this Kitakaze guy and why was he banned?

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Bill

Kitakaze was a skeptic who was fairly aggressive in his research, which he argued supported his opinion the PGF was a hoax. He was also quite adapt at social media and things internetty, so he could search and pull up an impressive array of old quotes, facts and trivia.

 

He made a claim about getting a look at a supposed suit in the private office of Al DeAtley (who partnered with Roger on the PGF national theater tour) by asking a family member to enter that room and stream video of the suit to his cel phone. But he's never been able to produce any corroboration of that claim. He also interviewed Phillip Morris extensively (the man who makes costumes and claims he sold Roger a gorilla suit).

 

He was equally active here and on the JREF/ISF forum. He dropped out of the activity when he went to Japan to work as a translator (He was first language fluent in both English and japanese)

 

As to why he was banned, I cannot say as I don't know.

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gigantor

He got banned for repeatedly violating the forum rules.

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OldMort

Bill, In your opinion was a tripod used during the riding sequence just prior to the encounter?

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On 7/24/2020 at 5:35 PM, OldMort said:

Bill, In your opinion was a tripod used during the riding sequence just prior to the encounter?

 

Great Q.   I wonder if they even had -or were reported to have- a tripod with them.

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Bill

Mort:

 

Sorry for the delay. My computer died, and I had to replace it, and a lot of bookmarked websites got lost. I'm still in recovery mode.

 

As to the question, I assume you mean the horse and rider footage. It's relatively steady, but I recall examining it once specifically to see if a tripod was used, and I found enough subtle anomalies to conclude it was hand held, just fairly securely. Anyways, that''s my recollection of the issue.

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OldMort

Yes. the horse and rider footage.

 

I was watching that footage just recently and was trying to get some idea of how much time and effort they must had to put into it.

 

It probably didn't take a great deal of time and planning but it clearly wasn't totally spontaneous either. 

 

I think I spotted the subtle anomalies that you referred to at the very beginning when RP was apparently filming. (miniscule corrections within the main pan).

 

Patterson also seems to have a pattern of slow horizontal panning, then up vertically to end the shot with a slight jolt at the end. 

 

I'm surprised how well Gimlin did with his camera work. Outstanding for a guy who had "nothing to do with cameras." 

 

Gimlin's work is mainly why I was wondering if a tripod was used.

 

Thanks for your opinion.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Mort:

Sorry I can't recall the specifics of how I concluded the camera was handheld. And I'm temporarily without a workstation to review all my files. I think it was based on the fact that typical tripod heads are set to pan side to side and up/down, but not easily roll/lean left right (clockwise or counterclockwise). That third rotational axis on the tripod head is usually locked off, when the other two axis are loose and movable. That's my experience as a cameraman using a lot of tripods, and panning and tilting while filming. And that last motion, the roll/lean, is common with hand held shots if the operator makes a slight bend at the waist, leaning left or right, while panning.

 

Anyways, that's the best of my recollection. 

 

Bill

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