Popular Post TedSallis Posted April 11, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2015 One thing that frustrates me about the Bigfoot community (or I should say a small faction of it) is the folks who make the unwarranted leap from believing in the existence of the animal to professing to know all about it, what it really is, how it behaves, etc. I'm not trying to rile anyone or point fingers, but honestly, you have people writing books and doing publicity saying that they know this creature is mostly human, likes to give gifts, has special powers, etc, etc, and it all seems more than a bit presumptuous to me. I want to say, "well, you may THINK this is true and you are perfectly welcome to say that, but you cannot KNOW it is true because there is precious little at all known about this creature at this point." There is not even a single specimen in capivity or on a forensic lab to glean any real evidence from; all else is total speculation. And that is fine, but just SAY it is speculation, not fact. Again, I strongly believe this creature exists. Thousands of witnesses are not ALL misidentifying, hoaxing or lying. They just...aren't. But beyond that, I have no clue what is going on, for certain. And really, neither does anyone else. We're all just guessing; educated guesses, to be sure in some cases, but guesses nonetheless. I think it's important to be able to dwell in the uncertainty before you leap to conclusions. That way your mind is kept open and isn't stuck defending positions you were 'sure' about, when and if the real truth comes out. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyzonthropus Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I would think that all it takes to shift from a believer to a knower is one unquestionable encounter with one of the big furries.... As a believer, they would probably have a number of theories as to what they might be/do, and upon actually observing one or more of the creatures some theories will most likely fall away in favor of those that are supported by what the individual saw. Through the elimination of theories and hypothesis that dont effectively address the observed phenomena, one is left with various explinations of various aspects that form a framework of interpretation which will at least imply further probable conclusions extrapolated from the event, as well as from the reports of others having had similar sightings with parallel elements involved. So its easy to imagine how a person might become an "overnight expert" following a sighting. But, of course, their "expertise" may well be limited to that specific region, and that particular creature, or group of creatures. There doesnt need to be a body on a slab, or live specimen in captivity in order for an individual to have some or even extensive. knowledge of these creatures, through sighting events, habituation contexts, interspecies interactions, and communications with others who have also experienced such phenomena. Should we choose to wait until these beings are officially recognized and acknowledged to further the inquiry, we will find ourselves woefully behind those who moved foreward with the certainty granted by their contact with these creatures that as of yet dont exist... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted April 11, 2015 SSR Team Share Posted April 11, 2015 The Leap From "belief" To "i've Got It All Figured Out" is only legitimately made by a sighting with your own eyes IMO. Good post Ted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 We won't know what they are until they are officially discovered through a body or DNA sample. Once that happens at least science will then send biologists into the field to study them further. It will be a process, but as of yet we haven't taken the first step. Which is to convince humanity they exist......... Right now they live next to Pixies and Gnomes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasfooty Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I wonder how they will get them to come out & be studied...... Especially after somebody shoots a family member & steals the body. That can't be good PR. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 I'm sure it will make the Squatch world nightly news........are you for real? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Divergent1 Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Just because I observe a bear or a lion briefly out in the wild doesn't mean I have everything figured out about the creatures. Even a pro longed face to face encounter wouldn't make you a knower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Not sure if there's a connection, but the ones who have it all figured out seem to have dozens of encounters. If only I could be so lucky. One visual and one sound that i absolutely believe was a pissed off Bigfoot in nearly 30 yrs of being in wilderness areas. As a long time lurker, I've read a lot of Coonbo's experiences, and as a researcher, he's going to experience more. The man who posts on here as Branco is a walking talking dictionary on the subject, and I 100% believe the multiple encounters the man has had. He's in the mountains in the middle of the night trying to get up close and personal, thus his successes. Whoever claims to be an expert better be able to back it up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest OntarioSquatch Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 As a long time lurker, I've read a lot of Coonbo's experiences, and as a researcher, he's going to experience more. The man who posts on here as Branco is a walking talking dictionary on the subject, and I 100% believe the multiple encounters the man has had. He's in the mountains in the middle of the night trying to get up close and personal, thus his successes. Whoever claims to be an expert better be able to back it up.... The two people you've mentioned haven't backed up any of their claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkGlasgow Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) Not sure if there's a connection, but the ones who have it all figured out seem to have dozens of encounters. If only I could be so lucky. One visual and one sound that i absolutely believe was a pissed off Bigfoot in nearly 30 yrs of being in wilderness areas. As a long time lurker, I've read a lot of Coonbo's experiences, and as a researcher, he's going to experience more. The man who posts on here as Branco is a walking talking dictionary on the subject, and I 100% believe the multiple encounters the man has had. He's in the mountains in the middle of the night trying to get up close and personal, thus his successes. Whoever claims to be an expert better be able to back it up.... Won't stop the BS. These folks used to get called out on here but it seems they just get tolerated these days.Salient point about those who claim multiple sightings. I've been lucky enough to have spent an all too short time with gorillas, albeit in captivity. This doesn't make me Dian Fossey by any manner of means. Indeed, I'd suggest I learned very little about their habits and behaviours during the time I spent with them. A Sasquatch encounter determines one key thing for the lucky individual in question. The confirmation these creatures exist. When people turn that magical, life changing moment into a PHD in BF Anthropology then my BS-ometer kicks into overdrive. Edited April 11, 2015 by MarkGlasgow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedSallis Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share Posted April 12, 2015 Not sure if there's a connection, but the ones who have it all figured out seem to have dozens of encounters. If only I could be so lucky. One visual and one sound that i absolutely believe was a pissed off Bigfoot in nearly 30 yrs of being in wilderness areas. As a long time lurker, I've read a lot of Coonbo's experiences, and as a researcher, he's going to experience more. The man who posts on here as Branco is a walking talking dictionary on the subject, and I 100% believe the multiple encounters the man has had. He's in the mountains in the middle of the night trying to get up close and personal, thus his successes. Whoever claims to be an expert better be able to back it up.... Bowcat, have you shared your encounter details here somewhere? If not, I'd be interested in hearing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguefooter Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I wonder how they will get them to come out & be studied...... Especially after somebody shoots a family member & steals the body. That can't be good PR. Well if you're having as many encounters as you claim then DNA should be no problem for you to collect in abundance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyzonthropus Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) Sure, while a single close encounter wont tell you everything, but, to use your lion analogy, it will tell you that this so called "lion" is a cat, and definitely not a canid, bear, or ape. That one lion sighting will confirm to you that they are i)real ii) large&quite muscular iii) cats iv)stealthy v)agile & faster than you imagined or read in witness accounts vi) amazingly loud at close proximity vii) rather overwhelming while staring at you over the one shrub between you and it , viii) not a man in a costume ix) not a bear x) obviously multi-dimensional.... Edited April 12, 2015 by guyzonthropus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Crowlogic Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Not sure if there's a connection, but the ones who have it all figured out seem to have dozens of encounters. Anyone who has had dozens of encounters is either delusional or faking it. Can anybody really believe that a person that can stage for themselves dozens of encounters cannot manage to get rock solid proof of their existence? Just go searching for the many encounters type and you'll get to know why there is so little credibility in bigfoot culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasfooty Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Well if you're having as many encounters as you claim then DNA should be no problem for you to collect in abundance. As a matter of fact, it's no problem at all. I currently have a big wad of hair, a ziplok bag of peach pits that they sucked the all peach off of & left in a pile beside the tree, & half an apple with wide, flat teeth marks on it. So, what is your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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