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Error In The 'classic Image' Of Bigfoot

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SweatyYeti

Looking again at F352, and the frames around it...I noticed that there is an error in the way the contour of the right hand has been "seen"/interpreted.

 

To begin with....here are just a couple of examples of the classic image of Bigfoot...

 

 

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As seen in those two interpretations of Frame 352....it appears as if Patty's fingers are extended....(either straight-out or slightly curled)...in that frame...

 

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But, in this two-frame animation....(using F350 and F352)....we can see that where it appears there are extended fingers....there is only dark-shaded background soil, with two small bright spots...

 

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As Patty was swinging her arm back, turning to look back at Roger....she curled her hand at the wrist...and curled her fingers, also.  That degree of curling/bending would be more consistent with the action of a real hand, and fingers, on a real creature....than it would be the movement of a 'hand extension' on an actor in a suit.

 

Isn't that right, Bob??... 

 

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Bob gets it wrong.....yet again.  :haha:

 

Here is a sequence of 4 frames in the backwards swing of the arm...where the changing contour/angle of the hand and fingers can be seen...

 

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And, to show that Patty's fingers do indeed change contour/curl....here are two clear frames...(F61 and F307)...in which Patty's fingers can clearly be seen in two different contours...

 

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That is a quick overview of images relating to this new detail. I plan on putting together more images, and animations to determine more definitively exactly how Patty's hand and fingers moved/curled, in this part of the film. :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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kitakaze

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Tom-Pate.jpg

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Guest Bigfoothunter

 

Tom-Pate.jpg

 

How accurate is this illustration, Kitakaze?  You claim one is a man in a padded suit and yet you use a man who isn't in a padded suit to say all the joints align with the other. That cannot be possible, so which version is the correct one???

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SweatyYeti

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Neither Tom Pate's 'arm length', nor his 'arm proportion' match Patty's. :)

 

Here is another comparison with Tom....with "Version 2" Tom included...

 

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And here is another comparison of their 'arm lengths'....with Patty's arm length just "inching out" Tom Tom's...

 

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The curling of Patty's fingers and hand, as she was turning to look back at Roger is significant...because it supports the proposal that the subject was not wearing 'hand extensions'.

 

I am working on additional graphics for this line of analysis...and will be submitting them, along with an explanation, to some of the Crypto websites/blogs. :)

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Guest Crowlogic

^Tom is doing Patty pretty well.  Not only that but Tommy isn't wearing gloves, you know a nice big fat pair of costume fake gloves which if he were wearing his hands would hang lower than Patty's.  Yessir then there's the probability that inside Patty's extended arm/hand is thin air so the glove is a bit free to move around.  Then there's Patty's left arm hand that in the frames Sweaty posted looks like something out of the March Of The Wooden Soldiers.  The realism is overwhelming, can't hardly take it myself.

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SweatyYeti

^Tom is doing Patty pretty well.  

 

 

Neither Tom's arm length, nor arm proportion match Patty's. 

 

To you that is "pretty well"...to me, it's "not enough". :)

 

 

 

 

Not only that but Tommy isn't wearing gloves, you know a nice big fat pair of costume fake gloves which if he were wearing his hands would hang lower than Patty's. 

 

 

You have a lot of catching-up to do, Crow. 

 

It has been shown that the filmed subject is not/cannot be wearing any 'hand extension', whatsoever. 

 

If the actor's hand were extended by only an inch or two...there wouldn't be any way they would be able to remotely control the glove fingers, so close to the end of the fingers...(where Patty's finger is clearly seen to bend)...

 

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And if it were extended by a few inches, or more...Patty's 'arm proportion' would be vastly different than what we see. 

 

My suggestion to you, Crow.....think more....rant less.  

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Patterson-Gimlin

Thank you for sharing. I find it quite interesting.

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SweatyYeti

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You're welcome, PG. :)

 

 

Here are a few more images to go along with the images in the OP....Frames 350 and 352...with the wrist-joint highlighted...

 

 

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And an interesting frame, with some relevance....F356....Patty's right arm is swinging forward, just after the hard landing of the right foot....with her right hand looking a lot like a clenched fist...

 

LMS-F356_zpstsj1y56z.jpg

 

 

 

And then there's Bob...with Phil's "Action Hand Extension"... :lol: ...

 

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OkieFoot
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Sweaty, your pictures are the Bigfoot Forum's version of revealing pictures.  ;)

As you point out, when you have fingers that can curl and uncurl and a wrist that is flexed and then straightened out, in a natural, realistic fashion, it means no arm extensions. And since you can't move the location of the elbow, we also know arm extensions can only extend the length of the lower arm, and Patty's lower arm does not appear to be way out of proportion with her upper arm.

 

In summation: when you have fingers that curl and uncurl, a flexible wrist and no arm extensions, the logical conclusion is it's a real arm. Furthermore, when you have a real arm that is very close to being as long as the legs, which is not how humans are built, the logical conclusion is Patty is real and not a human in a suit.

 

Sweaty, a sidenote: you changed your signature line; was John Fogerty okay with the change? ;)  

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Backdoc

If there anywhere we can go to see the video of the Bob H Ewok Bigfoot walking attempt shown in post #11.  I have seen these stills before and a few pieces together still of Bob H walking in the Morris suit.  I am dying to see more.  Any way to see more stills or the video from NatGeo.

 

???

 

BD

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SweatyYeti

Sweaty, your pictures are the Bigfoot Forum's version of revealing pictures.  ;)

As you point out, when you have fingers that can curl and uncurl and a wrist that is flexed and then straightened out, in a natural, realistic fashion, it means no arm extensions. And since you can't move the location of the elbow, we also know arm extensions can only extend the length of the lower arm, and Patty's lower arm does not appear to be way out of proportion with her upper arm.

 

In summation: when you have fingers that curl and uncurl, a flexible wrist and no arm extensions, the logical conclusion is it's a real arm. Furthermore, when you have a real arm that is very close to being as long as the legs, which is not how humans are built, the logical conclusion is Patty is real and not a human in a suit.

 

 

 

 

Thanks, Okie. :thumbsup:  

 

Yeah, when you consider all of the realistic details involved in this analysis of the subject's arms/elbow/fingers....it's pretty much impossible for this to have been a 'man-in-a-suit'. 

 

Especially when you consider the fact that the finger movement was never mentioned by Roger...and, the finger-bending is done only sparsely, and is barely noticeable. That is inconsistent with a feature built-into a suit's hands.

 

 

 

 

 

Sweaty, a sidenote: you changed your signature line; was John Fogerty okay with the change?  ;)  

 

 

I can't really say for sure, Okie. :) But if he isn't...all he has to do is go look out his back door, and use his imagination...and he'll be O.K.... :music:

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SweatyYeti

If there anywhere we can go to see the video of the Bob H Ewok Bigfoot walking attempt shown in post #11.  I have seen these stills before and a few pieces together still of Bob H walking in the Morris suit.  I am dying to see more.  Any way to see more stills or the video from NatGeo.

 

???

 

BD

 

 

AFAIK, Backdoc...that video is unavailable to see....anywhere. Nat.Geo. isn't overly proud of it...hence...it's gonzo. :haha:

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Guest Crowlogic

BTW That second photo of Tom Pate shows him not as hunched over and not as bent knee as the one where he's nailing Patty's hide to the barn.  Tisk tisk shame on those PGF researchers for not appreciating this.  Even a skeptic can see it, and you know skeptics don't even live in Pattyville.  We live in real space time.

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