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Celtic Raider

You just wasted one heck of a lotta words there, brah.

 

What I think it very obviously meant was "for this to have legs, all the backstory would have to be true."  There is significant evidence here, to one well acquainted, to trust the backstory.

 

Good one! Way to foster some stimulating discussion.

 

I have read up on the backstory a little bit and listened to a couple of interviews and there's certainly something been going on there that should be looked into.......what in particular makes you think this is beyond reproach? Is it just the source or any particular things you key on?

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DWA

As a rule I don't consider any single story golden, or any two, or any fifty.

 

But a number of evidence threads come together here.  Those photos; associated footprints; a history of reports.  Alton Higgins - the guy who wrote the backstory on the photos, the guy you'll hear talking on the podcast, a guy I know personally - screams "scientist" from across a football field.  He says he saw one, and I don't have a good reason to doubt him.  I also don't have a good reason to doubt the other people whose experiences are put forward here.  And they seem to describe something that many other witnesses in many other places saw.

 

Our jurisprudence system convicts people all the time on evidence no more substantial than put forward here.  And that's as far as I can go.  But it's intriguing.

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Celtic Raider

As a rule I don't consider any single story golden, or any two, or any fifty.

 

But a number of evidence threads come together here.  Those photos; associated footprints; a history of reports.  Alton Higgins - the guy who wrote the backstory on the photos, the guy you'll hear talking on the podcast, a guy I know personally - screams "scientist" from across a football field.  He says he saw one, and I don't have a good reason to doubt him.  I also don't have a good reason to doubt the other people whose experiences are put forward here.  And they seem to describe something that many other witnesses in many other places saw.

 

Our jurisprudence system convicts people all the time on evidence no more substantial than put forward here.  And that's as far as I can go.  But it's intriguing.

 

That's a good point and certainly intriguing. The surrounding cast and story is certainly more thought provoking than some, just a shame we can't actually view the footage and make a judgment on that. I'll continue to read up on this as it seems like a genuinely strange set of circumstances that is very difficult to explain rationally.

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Good one! Way to foster some stimulating discussion.

 

I have read up on the backstory a little bit and listened to a couple of interviews and there's certainly something been going on there that should be looked into.......what in particular makes you think this is beyond reproach? Is it just the source or any particular things you key on?

 

Well, the Cheyenne and Arapahoe may have the last word as they have in the past.  This happens to be tribal land and you may not be welcome????  They have a long history too and I respect their judgement on the way they have handled this encounter.  I saw a blog in 2004 and a worker or former worker outed the tribe and reported the video.  He/she actually gave a phone number but after a while he was either ordered to "zip it" or some other reprecussion would follow.....  I think we should let this one go IMHO.

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Absolutely not!

 

How can you just assume something is true and then base conclusions off that, I'm not suggesting that people are concocting a web of lies but if you're going to research this then you can't start half way along a timeline and make assumptions - that's how law inforcement get the wrong guys from time to time. Assume nothing and take everything at face value.

I agree. It is always preferable to view things through a skeptical lens at first.

 

Try hard to rule out any other explanations other than BF.

 

I don't think you wasted a lot of words. I think you brought a sound perspective to the discussion.

 

If you try to rule out BF then what is left after proper analysis is cool and what keeps folks interested in the subject coming back.

 

Assume nothing. Accept little. I state that as a believer.

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DWA

This isn't about belief.  It's a scientific question, and about evidence.

 

If all the evidence says x, one is wasting one's time to try to make it "y, disguised as x."  Where the OK situation is is where it has to be left until better evidence is forthcoming.  But one looks at the most likely solution; and the most likely solution is not in this case deluded people or misidentification or fakers.

 

A scientist looking at this should say:  I'd keep testing research techniques in this area, because something's going on that looks like an unlisted animal.  If he doesn't, his opinion is for that and that alone suspect.  It is indeed possible that this was a transient individual, so it may come to no more than monitoring; maintaining contacts; and being on the alert for additional evidence.

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Sasquatcha

Very interesting story about this Native tribe and their experience with a Sasquatch! But if this Bigfoot took this Native American adult male that was at home with his family and beat him nearly to death..these monsters may not be our friends after all.

But I still hope no one kills a Bigfoot unless their lives are in danger.

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