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Stan Norton

I was very interested in the case myself, and visited the place in 2007. There were hair samples collected also. It's a shame there isn't more conclusive results from that, but probably par for what we should expect. 

 

Thanks for this...I'd be really keen to hear your thoughts on the case: did you investigate and if so what were your conclusions? Did any of those hairs ever get tested? I recall Alton Higgins stating on the BIPcast that over 60 were collected, both by himself and Mr Lumpmouth...wonder if any of those have made their way to the Sykes lab?

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southernyahoo

Roger Roberts did have some tested in association with a Finding Bigfoot episode. The DNA lab, DNA Solutions, out of Oklahoma City did not get a readable sequence from them apparently, too fragmented. I collected some myself from some limb breaks in the area which tested human according to the Ketchum study, though my observations of the scene of the collection had me thinking it was more likely from an animal that lives in the wild or atleast a domesticated animal living outdoors. More here...............

 

http://www.texlaresearch.com/hairanalysis.htm

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Sunflower

That area has trees along the river and some creeks and on a moonlit night you could walk for miles and miles across the prairie and not be seen.  There are ravines here and there and stands of trees but it's really not far for a hairy guy to walk to El Reno, Yukon, and a few very small towns.  There are lots of old farmsteads as well.  We lived not far from there and would get on the bike at midnight and ride to the casino, play a few games and grab a cup of coffee and then ride further to the west. 

 

Back then it was very quiet and not much going on and in the winter it was beautiful on a clear nite.

 

I discovered a blog back in about 2004 or ?? about a guy that worked at the casino and he told the whole story. He even put his phone number on the blog along with claiming that he'd seen the video.  The indians are NOT letting that info remain on the internet and I believe he was dealt with, maybe even harshly, for exposing it.  For the record, I'm with the tribe on this issue and hope they never release such a video.  IMO it's not necessary. 

 

Peace

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Wheellug

I would think they would publicize it more.  The more public it becomes the more attraction the site gets.  

 

Also they can play the spiritual/historic aspect and show the rest of the world why its in their cultural history.   

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southernyahoo

Thanks for this...I'd be really keen to hear your thoughts on the case: did you investigate and if so what were your conclusions? Did any of those hairs ever get tested? I recall Alton Higgins stating on the BIPcast that over 60 were collected, both by himself and Mr Lumpmouth...wonder if any of those have made their way to the Sykes lab?

 

To elaborate a little more. Bigfoot presence in that area is regarded as common knowledge to the locals, like many other places. I don't think Alton had the hairs he collected tested for DNA, and have no knowledge of whether Mr. Lumpmouth had any tested. Some of my observations in the area does agree with what Mr. Lumpmouth says he's found and witnessed there, so I'm very optimistic about the whole of the evidence from that area.

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One would think that if the footage is legit and worthwhile, the casino would make a great deal of money from airing it publically. But, given the spiritual aspects of BF to Native Americans, I can understand why money may not be of prime importance to them in this matter.

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Sunflower

Yes and yes.

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Shelly

The fact that it has not surfaced after all this time makes me wonder...   

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Sunflower

It's understandable when it concerns the Cheyenne and Arapahoe tribes.  They do NOT want it publicized and it doesn't make me wonder at all.

 

Peace

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zenmonkey

I live in Yukon I visit the site regularly I hafta say either they are really just that good at being invisible or they (if are real and if really were there) were just passing through. I see no evidence of a large mammal at all...other than cows. I had a good friend of mine who worked security she was a member of the tribe and her grandparents are elders. She has never seen the video personally but knows people who have. They claim to have destroyed it but she says its locked away. I understand why they would want to keep it under wraps and not let the video out but at the same time indian culture is full of superstition and folk lore. Its a shame they wouldn't turn over the evidence. The answer to this mystery would be the biggest scientific discovery of our time.  

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DWA

I don't necessarily see anything implausible about this.

 

Keep in mind that to people not consciously looking for somethng humanlike but not human, something like this might not even register, or might come across vaguely as "weird-looking guy," and not even that weird-looking given the likely attention the witness would be paying.  At night, the likelihood of more than one or two ro so people really noticing goes down even further.  Then you ask:  how many of them would report something "that's not real"?  Animals that aren't getting "called on it" when they leave riparian margins to cross open country for easy pickins are likely to continue doing it, or of course to try it if they never have before and the coast appears clear.

 

Look at NAWAC reports for this county.  Check particularly the satellite views.  Those wooded riparian margins, key:

 

http://woodape.org/reports/report/county?county=Canadian&state=OK

 

...and note that "prairie:"

 

http://woodape.org/index.php/about-bigfoot/articles/220-oklahoma-prairie-photos

 

I don't see any reason particularly to doubt that this happened.  Count on it, these animals, if they're real, have multiple strategies for coexisting with us...even as the ones we know about do.

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DWA

Read this, from one of the reports I cite above:

 

The witness, along with his associate, had been led into the area by a rash of alleged sightings as well as a couple of compelling photographs and rumors of a video. Supposedly, the video had been taken at a local casino by a security camera of what appeared to be a sasquatch feeding from a grease pit. While the area certainly seemed as unlikely habitat for a large, rare and secretive animal to reside, a plausible explanation is that it was merely a temporary abode for a transient individual or two along a riparian corridor. The transient individual(s) hypothesis is reinforced by the fact that the rash of alleged sightings spanned only a temporary period before dying down.

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Stan Norton

And we need to remember that in addition to the video occurrence there had been a long history of sightings (apearing to point towards intermittent presence, possibly indicative of nomadic activity) at and around the casino, some very intriguing handprints, footprints plus those very cool photos by Russell Lumpmouth. It all adds up to a great case well worth some effort.

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DWA

Keep in mind that the "rash of sightings" did not result in the alert of the National Guard, Marines, a fleet of Predators, and all the ships at sea. 

 

it resulted in some very part-time attention by a few people.

 

In other words, to a sasquatch:

 

Nothing happened.

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masterbarber

That's an unlikely spot for something reportedly that big to remain relatively undetected-even for a brief period of time. 

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