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MIB
12 hours ago, Catmandoo said:

While trying to find info on permits and passes, I found the message that drones and unmanned aerial devices are not allowed in wilderness areas. Does not affect me but it's the 1st time that I have seen the 'no drone' message.

 

Flight regulation conflict. 

 

Our wilderness areas here (federal) require aircraft to stay a minimum of 1200 feet above the ground.   Drone regulations require them being no more than 400 feet above the ground.   There's no legal way to meet both requirements.

 

MIB

 

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SWWASAS
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Drones are unnecessarily loud.     If they used slower geared but larger props they could reduce the noise by several times.    The high speed props on most drones sound like an angry swarm of giant hornets.   An example of what can be done is that in the Vietnam War the CIA was looking for a  quiet night surveillance aircraft to fly low and look for traffic on the supply trails down from North Vietnam.   What they did was take a Sweitzer Glider,   add a very muffled gas motor that turned a very large, slow moving prop.   You could not hear the airplane even a couple of hundred feet high.   I saw the aircraft in some museum someplace.  

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Huntster
On 7/16/2019 at 11:19 AM, SWWASAS said:

......... in the Vietnam War the CIA was looking for a  quiet night surveillance aircraft to fly low and look for traffic on the supply trails down from North Vietnam.   What they did was take a Sweitzer Glider,   add a very muffled gas motor that turned a very large, slow moving prop.   You could not hear the airplane even a couple of hundred feet high.   I saw the aircraft in some museum someplace.  

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_YO-3

 

We saw them flying in and out of NKP. The Army used them, too. Apparently law enforcement used them successfully after the war. One would think law enforcement would still love to utilize such aircraft alongside their noisy choppers.

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norseman

Went north from Sherman pass to Boulder pass today. Saw a dead raven... never seen that before. Saw some whitetail including a buck. And a cowboy rounding up cows. Also saw a Bluff creek of sorts. A burn had caused erosion and a creek bottom to fill with sand and debris. 

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NatFoot

I see 7 BFs in your last pic.

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norseman

Red Angus back in the timber will get yer heart pumping fer one sec!

 

Black charred stumps not so much.

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BigTreeWalker
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Like that country. That raven looks like maybe a peregrine falcon took it out. But I've never seen that happen to a raven. Usually to seagulls around here. They take on an eagle now and then with no luck. 

I like the fireweed and indian paintbrush. 

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Kiwakwe

Can't say I've seen a decimated raven either but their nests sure are a lot easier to find out here in the desert than they are back in Maine, Beautiful country Norseman!

Don't know where I'm headed tomorrow but somewhere high. It's 104 degrees at 4200'

I'd like to start doing some backpacking but after spending the last 25 yrs at 60' elevation, it feels as if I'm 90 when I start a relatively unladen uphill at 9000'

 

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gigantor

We used to see dead ravens here in the East about 10 years ago, killed by the bird flu. The scavengers somehow know not to eat them.

 

I guess the survivors are immune 'cause I haven't seen a dead one in years.

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norseman
1 hour ago, Kiwakwe said:

Can't say I've seen a decimated raven either but their nests sure are a lot easier to find out here in the desert than they are back in Maine, Beautiful country Norseman!

Don't know where I'm headed tomorrow but somewhere high. It's 104 degrees at 4200'

I'd like to start doing some backpacking but after spending the last 25 yrs at 60' elevation, it feels as if I'm 90 when I start a relatively unladen uphill at 9000'

 

 

It was 50 and raining at 5000 ft here.

 

Thank you!

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norseman
1 hour ago, gigantor said:

We used to see dead ravens here in the East about 10 years ago, killed by the bird flu. The scavengers somehow know not to eat them.

 

I guess the survivors are immune 'cause I haven't seen a dead one in years.

 

This one was picked almost clean.

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Madison5716

Beautiful photos, norseman and Kiwakwi! Looks like a couple of great locations.

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