Catmandoo 369 Posted November 12, 2020 BFF Donor Share Posted November 12, 2020 On your friends rural property with 'livestock'. How do the animals react? Not sure if the image is a LLama or Alpaca. I believe that a LLama will 'point' in the direction of danger. Should I guess that your friends comb the animals and make fine wool garments? Link to post Share on other sites
Madison5716 629 Posted November 13, 2020 BFF Donor Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 The llamas are fierce, lol, and they spit. They are mostly rescues, and pets, aka money pits. The dogs are mixed - a cowardly one, a ballsy dumb yapper and the Lab, who took on a cougar recently. I will ask about their reactions. I need to see when we can get the game camera. And I'm turning on audio as soon as we exit the car from now on! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Catmandoo 369 Posted November 13, 2020 BFF Donor Share Posted November 13, 2020 16 hours ago, Madison5716 said: The llamas are fierce, lol, and they spit Llama activity is shown in the movie "Gun Shy". 'Death by Llama' is amusing. They are interesting animals. They have extremely fine wool. As pack animals, they can't handle a heavy load and do not leave trail cookies while traveling. Link to post Share on other sites
DrPSH 14 Posted November 14, 2020 BFF Donor Share Posted November 14, 2020 We used to have several llamas - and a decent sized herd of alpacas (that is a story for a pleasant beverage and a lot more time). They are cool animals. Both alpacas and llamas are excellent and hearty spitters. Anyway, one lovely Saturday afternoon I was home alone, and the llamas started making a huge fuss outside (they make a very loud alarm call....very distinctive in character). I went out to the front porch, and 2 of the llamas were at the fence line, basically pointing themselves in the direction of 3 coyotes who had lined themselves up to watch alpaca tv. (It was likely coyote mating season and the creatures were on the move). Anyway, the llamas were not having it, and as soon as I showed up on the scene, the lead llama charged the fence and spit. (They are typically accurate at a distance of between 25 and 30 feet at least in our experience.) Suffice it to say the coyotes were not interested in hanging around. I miss those llamas! Now we are haunted (or adopted?) by a bobcat who regularly likes to scream in the early hours of the morning - somewhere between 4-5am. It is clearly working for her or him, not working so great for us. They are loud! Anyway, I digress. Would be very interested to hear what the llamas think of their visitors, Madison, if you happen to know. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BlackRockBigfoot 979 Posted November 25, 2020 BFF Donor Share Posted November 25, 2020 (edited) On 11/12/2020 at 10:19 PM, Madison5716 said: The llamas are fierce, lol, and they spit. They are mostly rescues, and pets, aka money pits. The dogs are mixed - a cowardly one, a ballsy dumb yapper and the Lab, who took on a cougar recently. I will ask about their reactions. I need to see when we can get the game camera. And I'm turning on audio as soon as we exit the car from now on! @7.62 Remember the Great Llama Skull Debacle over at that other forum that we both frequent? Edited November 26, 2020 by BlackRockBigfoot Link to post Share on other sites
Madison5716 629 Posted November 26, 2020 BFF Donor Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 (edited) It won't let me answer without posting a photo, so. @BlackRockBigfoot I'm not on any other forums? Not sure what you're referring to. @DrPSH, since we put up the trail cam, all activity has stopped. Figures. Saturday, November 22, NorthWind and I went on a hike with one of my friends, and then explored some roads near the trail. Found snow, a cave, crows and lunch. Edited November 26, 2020 by Madison5716 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BlackRockBigfoot 979 Posted November 26, 2020 BFF Donor Share Posted November 26, 2020 39 minutes ago, Madison5716 said: It won't let me answer without posting a photo, so. @BlackRockBigfoot I'm not on any other forums? Not sure what you're referring to. @DrPSH, since we put up the trail cam, all activity has stopped. Figures. Saturday, November 22, NorthWind and I went on a hike with one of my friends, and then explored some roads near the trail. Found snow, a cave, crows and lunch. Sorry for the confusion. There was some memorable drama that occurred on another forum that consisted of a llama skull and Bigfoot. 7.62 is a member of that other forum as well. My post contained spaces between his name and the rest of the post, so it came out confusing. Link to post Share on other sites
DrPSH 14 Posted November 27, 2020 BFF Donor Share Posted November 27, 2020 Madison, it looks like you had a great day. Hope the activity picks back up again - in the meantime, glad you are out and about and enjoying the scenery! Even the small amount of snow on the road is pretty, and I love the rushing water. We are supposed to finally get some snow next week. I'm the only fan of snow in my household except the dog, so I've got my boots at the ready and he and I will have a nice hike through the back 40. Hopefully we will see some interesting tracks...most likely to be the neighborhood bobcat. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SWWASAS 1,887 Posted November 27, 2020 BFF Donor Share Posted November 27, 2020 19 hours ago, Madison5716 said: It won't let me answer without posting a photo, so. @BlackRockBigfoot I'm not on any other forums? Not sure what you're referring to. @DrPSH, since we put up the trail cam, all activity has stopped. Figures. Saturday, November 22, NorthWind and I went on a hike with one of my friends, and then explored some roads near the trail. Found snow, a cave, crows and lunch. Did you explore the cave.? Looks like an old mine entrance to me. Might be worth looking at since there are some lost gold mines down in Southern Oregon. Link to post Share on other sites
NorthWind 289 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 These images were taken by the game cam we left out at the "llama" property. Going through the images, I saw deer, a cat, a dog, us, and then there were these two weird images...likely just artifacts? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NorthWind 289 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 The dark colored anomaly that is in the daytime shot looks like it is big and moving quickly. Could have been a bird though, I suppose. I really don't know. No birds on any of the other images. I had the cam set up for timelapse. Link to post Share on other sites
NorthWind 289 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Madison and I have not been able to get to the Charmed Lake where we found so many unusual footprints last year. The roads are closed due to the massive fires we had. That doesn't mean we have given up. We tried taking a long roundabout approach I figured out with Google Earth and maps. Sneaking in the back door, if you will. Unfortunately, after driving for what seemed like forever, there was a sign that was posted threatening people beyond that point with a $5,000 fine. So frustrating, because I think we were less than five miles as the crow flies from our target. We had to turn around. But the fires have cleared up a lot of stuff and one can now see a bit more distant. We found a cave, about big enough for me to enter if I hunched over. Decided not to enter once I looked at it with the FLIR, which showed that it was warm inside. Yeah, no thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
hiflier 1,516 Posted December 1, 2020 BFF Donor Share Posted December 1, 2020 Never a good idea to go into ANY cave after a fire NW. It can become a repository for methane and carbon monoxide, either one, as everyone knows, could quite lethal if one doesn't have the right equipment. On the other hand, those gasses could b quite lethal for the Bigfoots as well especially monoxide as it is odorless and colorless. Carbon monoxide and methane are both lighter than air, and so the gases may dissipate over time, but how would anyone know how long it would take, or even if they are present without proper protective equipment and detectors? Link to post Share on other sites
NorthWind 289 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I will remind @Madison5716 of the deadliness of methane next time I ride with her when she has consumed too many dairy products. Kidding, my friend. Kidding. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hiflier 1,516 Posted December 1, 2020 BFF Donor Share Posted December 1, 2020 (edited) Aww, we know that NW And just so you know, I think Madison had perhaps gone through my Sasquatch hunting manual back when she asked about burned areas. The caution concerning methane and CO in caves was included at the end of the "Burned Areas" chapter. In either case, thank you, that's a very interesting looking cave. Pretty sure such things maintain an interior temperature of around 55 ambient degrees give or take. Makes me curious about your observation of there being heat present. But cave or no cave, the devastation recorded in your photos is just incredible. Edited December 1, 2020 by hiflier Link to post Share on other sites
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