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I may be opening a can of worms with this topic but...

I am not taking a stance, pro or con, nor am I advocating any theories involving red pools and tracking dogs, but....

Impressions on the possibility that the herniation seen on Patty's thigh is a wound?

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MK Davis. Gotta love him.

If he'd team up with Blevins I'd pay big bucks to see a documentary made by them!!!

Patty sure walks well for having half her leg blown off.

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Will

It could have been a flesh wound but half her leg sure was'nt blown off.

Many times I've shot and seen big game shot that did'nt move at all.

There is just no way of proving what happened.

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Will

Could it be some kind of cyst.

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I may be opening a can of worms with this topic but...

I am not taking a stance, pro or con, nor am I advocating any theories involving red pools and tracking dogs, but....

Impressions on the possibility that the herniation seen on Patty's thigh is a wound?

decades later, i is for inconclusive.

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Interesting thread notgiganto. If everyone minds their manners and debates the theory presented, as opposed to individual people involved in advocating it as a possibility it should make for some fun discussion.

So, what I'm saying is this thread isn't about MK Davis or anyone else. It is about the posit of the OP.

Please conduct yourselves with this in mind. :)

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I am sure that the herniation was discussed to death on the old BFF. I started the thread because the thigh-wound link appeared very recently on Bobby Short's site, described as "compelling evidence."

Inconclusive, yes. As most things go with the PGF.

I have always found the herniation issue to be intriguing. Here we have(possibly)the only legit film evidence of a sasquatch, and that very creature has a very odd injury/medical condition. I have never met a person with this kind of injury, and have no idea how common or uncommon it might be as I am not in the medical or sports medicine field. But to find it on the one compelling visual documentation of an unknown hairy biped has always seemed, well, truly odd. I have always believed that the film was not a hoax, but this herniation is either a. a problem with the costume; or b. a legitimate herniation caused by ???, but absolute proof that this is a real creature with a real injury.

I suppose it could be c. a problem with the film, making it only appear to be a herniation.

I dunno. Any medical folks want to chime in on the herniation having *possibly* been caused by something ballistic?

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I have never met a person with this kind of injury.

Hi, I'm Kraig... now you have :lol:

Seriously though, yes I do have something that pops out of my shin. I'm not sure what it is, I just assumed that it was probably due to spending my youth playing Rugby and generally rough housing. I have a lot of shin splints too, that's why I think I got the bulge by being rough on my body. If I'm sitting, it isn't there, but if my leg's in certain positions or I have pressure on it (like standing), it pops out about half an inch.

I could take a couple of photos, but I don't want to be responsible for people vomiting on their monitors at the sight of my pale white legs...lol.

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My best guess is actually someone else's guess (can't remember who from BFF1). I believe it's just a tuft of hair that is ruffled from the right hand brushing across the right thigh. You can see the hand and tuft of hair line up perfectly.

Now, everyone stand up and see if your hand hangs as low as Patty's against your thigh, about 6-8" above the knee! I'd be surprised if the ratio is 1 in 10. Maybe I'll start a poll ;)

I know, I know, some will claim arm extensions. But extensions don't quite add up when you study the humerus bone/radius bone arm ratio.

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True, the "hair tuft" and hand do line up well. That seems the simplest explanation... BUT if that is the simplest explanation, then where did this somewhat less simplistic idea of herniation originate from? Anyone know who first identified this as a "herniation?" I am pretty sure that I heard of it before Meldrum's book (I could be wrong), but it is the only source that comes to mind (yes, I am being lazy and not wading through other analyses....)

Questions then:

1. Are the sources of the so-called herniation feature Meldrum, Hajicek, and Dr. Andrew Nelson (Dr. Meldrum cites him as a physician cunsulted on the matter)??

2. Why would an anatomist and a consulting physician bypass such a simple explanation in favor of a herniation? This makes me think that perhaps the hair tuft explanation, though possible, is not the correct explanation.

And yes, I am sure some of the simple answers to my second question might be "to confirm the PGF as legit" or simply "to sell the bloody book," but I am assuming at least SOME legitimate science and motivation on the part of Dr. Meldrum. After all, backing sasquatch or legitimizing a much (scientifically) maligned film is not the smartest move for a scientist ...BUT I digress from making this about people and their personal motivations.

So Question 3: Could these specialists have been viewing the anomalous movement on the film through the bias of their professional lenses, causing them to identify it as a herniation?

Oh, and Kraig: nice to meet you and your herniation!:-) And good point: Patty's life is/was surely rough, and the physical strains of surviving in the wilderness and could very well cause *similar* types of muscular injury....

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Crowlogic

There is no hernia or wound on Patty's thigh. What is actually being seen is a disturbed tuft of fur set in motion by the back swing of the right arm which brushes the thigh slightly.

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Case closed then. Time to put this thread to bed.

Wait...how would a back swing of her arm push the hair tuft forward? Cue Jim Garrison and Johnny Cochran.

Here's an idea, wild I know, but maybe it's a film artifact? How many frames does it actually appear on? Not video frames...movie frames.

Bill?

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Here's an idea, wild I know, but maybe it's a film artifact? How many frames does it actually appear on? Not video frames...movie frames.

I have had that thought too Black Dog. I think it might be. All the more reason why it's vvvvveeeeeeerty strange that Bob H felt the need to explain a possible film artifact by saying it was his wallet/car keys or whatnot. :blink:

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I dunno, the enhanced 3 frames that Mr. Davis has provided make it look like a hole in her thigh. When I watch the film in motion, it just looks like a bulge to me.

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The only Davis enhancements I've seen are the end results and what looks like added color. I'd like to see how he got there not just the end result. I certainly may have missed something but I'm far from convinced by what I've seen so far.

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