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Sasquatch: The Tactical Advantage

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This thread is for collecting and discussing the many attributes given a Bigfoot for how they use different tactics of maneuvering coupled with their primate body type. It's a big creature, both male and female, and in the past there have sometimes been families or groups that have been observed. As a Sasquatch, which in command of it's mind, body, and habitat, there are different tactics witnesses have reported seeing utilized. Though getting everything into one thread would make referencing such things for field work easier. It's not east keeping many potential tactical deployments in one's mind when out doing research so I thought having a repository for running down several methodologies of stealth might be beneficial.

 

One example would be the reported crab walk where a Bigfoot can move in a very low profile when compared to its surroundings, such as tall grass. Learning to balance the Bigfoot mind with its physical capabilities could be valuable.The floor is open.....

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A few more reported traits and maneuvers:

 

The ability to imitate and object in their surroundings. Like a log according to Bob Swain of NAWAC.

Sneaking closer by moving from tree to tree. According to the hunter in a BFRO report who witness the technique when a BF killed and carried off a hog.

Walking silently over forest duff.

"Freezing" a deer, walking up to it, grabbing it's head, then taking it away.

Moving large stones in a quarry to get at rodents.

Moving down a slope to escape or moving up-slope to get a strategic advantage.

Getting on all fours to run or attack.

Using a rabbit as toilet paper.

Remaining still behind foliage while observing.

Nocturnal vision for moving around at night.

Swaying back and forth either as a means of determining distance to an object or to distract a witness from something else.

Reported to use logs and rocks as a way to not leave prints.

The idea during an encounter that there's always more than one close by.

Curiosity about noises, children, musical instruments.

Escorting people out of the woods without actually being seen.

Shaking trees and bushes.

Turning and disappearing into shrubbery without engaging a Human.

Escaping after being shot.

Rock clacking.

Assumed large nest building.

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7.62

Being able to float over snow . Assuming there is a breeding population that would encompass at least a couple of thousand how they travel in snow without leaving tracks.

 

 

Half of the U.S is covered in snow many months of the year and if they are in fact in the states where sightings have been reported how do they move during the snowy months.

You walk in the woods and find tracks of every animal that walks in the forest but not them , why? I would like to have that answer.

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15 minutes ago, 7.62 said:

Being able to float over snow . Assuming there is a breeding population that would encompass at least a couple of thousand how they travel in snow without leaving tracks.

 

A real world answer would be they don't, or they are simply elsewhere. The latter seems the better answer. Researchers do peruse the snow lines just in case one steps into the white stuff but if following herds to lower elevations in winter areas is a probability then one might not expect tracks in snow. When there are however they are pretty impressive.

 

6 minutes ago, Huntster said:

There are lots of cases of sasquatch tracks in snow. Here's a relatively recent one:

 

https://www.yakimaherald.com/free_article/are-these-the-footprints-of-a-sasquatch/article_df5e359c-f558-11e6-b663-1fd19dbda473.html

 

"The state Department of Fish and Wildlife was provided photos of the prints for comment, but did not reply."

 

My favorite line of the entire article. I guess no one pressed F&W for an answer, or a request to actually go to the location?

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12 minutes ago, Huntster said:

There are lots of cases of sasquatch tracks in snow. Here's a relatively recent one:

 

https://www.yakimaherald.com/free_article/are-these-the-footprints-of-a-sasquatch/article_df5e359c-f558-11e6-b663-1fd19dbda473.html

 

 

There's really not a lot of them . If they travel as close to people populations as has been stated many times by researchers there should be track ways found 

many dozens of times during the snowy months .

13 minutes ago, hiflier said:

 

A real world answer would be they don't, or they are simply elsewhere. The latter seems the better answer. Researchers do peruse the snow lines just in case one steps into the white stuff but if following herds to lower elevations in winter areas is a probability then one might not expect tracks in snow. When there are however they are pretty impressive.

Else where , where 

Unless they all migrate to the south it doesn't make sense .

13 minutes ago, hiflier said:

 

"The state Department of Fish and Wildlife was provided photos of the prints for comment, but did not reply."

 

My favorite line of the entire article. I guess no one pressed F&W for an answer, or a request to actually go to the location?

 

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24 minutes ago, 7.62 said:

Else where , where 

Unless they all migrate to the south it doesn't make sense .

 

I was in a discussion a while back about a possible migration from Mount Saint Helens through the Toutle River basin to the West Coast, mainly the Grays Harbor area. The dialogue revolved around how such a creature would get past I-5 either over or under and into the Hoquiam River valley and watershed above Aberdeen. Doable? I would say yes either through pinch points through culverts or across the lanes of the highway (unlikely since the highway has been there for 50? years. As far as say Minnesota/Montana?Wisconsin where winter temps are very low and snowfall high? I have no answer though speculations of hunkering down in remote caves and local forages for deer have been proposed. Again it would mean low populations in places where people are scarce in that season. This is where science needs to get on board....but they won't.

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25 minutes ago, hiflier said:

 

I was in a discussion a while back about a possible migration from Mount Saint Helens through the Toutle River basin to the West Coast, mainly the Grays Harbor area. The dialogue revolved around how such a creature would get past I-5 either over or under and into the Hoquiam River valley and watershed above Aberdeen. Doable? I would say yes either through pinch points through culverts or across the lanes of the highway (unlikely since the highway has been there for 50? years. As far as say Minnesota/Montana?Wisconsin where winter temps are very low and snowfall high? I have no answer though speculations of hunkering down in remote caves and local forages for deer have been proposed. Again it would mean low populations in places where people are scarce in that season. This is where science needs to get on board....but they won't.

I think it's a good theory that might move that way.. I just find it hard to believe considering how many there has to be in order for them to survive we don't find more snow tracks.

Researchers aside .. 

 

Being from recreational snow machine riders who travel  tens of miles through various terrain in the north to hunters , cross country skiers etc. 

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Your point is well taken, 7.62, and I have no solutions to the conundrum to offer. I might add that in most areas it snows more than once which cover's EVERYTHING'S tracks. It means if a trackway is remote, or even close by populations but isn't discovered before the next snowfall, or melt, or rain, then chances are it may never be discovered.  It at least lowers the odds of coming across one.

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1 hour ago, 7.62 said:

There's really not a lot of them ........

 

Depends on their range and likely movements. For example, if they do indeed inhabit Florida, it's not likely that you will find sasquatch footprints in the snow there.

 

And if their seasonal movements are like other animals (like the deer they likely prey on occasionally), they follow the melting snow uphill in spring and early summer, inhabit the high country during the summer, and they get pushed down by snow into the lower elevations where the occasional snows that fall melt quicker. 

 

Eastern Washington has winter sasquatch track finds in snow in the lower elevations rather regularly. Sunnyslope, Bossburg, Walla Walla, etc. This may be because the lower elevations east of the Cascades is a high plateau, fairly cold, and it holds snow longer.

 

There are quite a few winter sightings west of the Cascades and Olympic Mountains where there is little snow, and that makes all the sense in the world. 

 

........If they travel as close to people populations as has been stated many times by researchers there should be track ways found 



many dozens of times during the snowy months.......

 

I tend to disagree with such theories. First of all, I don't think there are many of these creatures at all; 5,000 continent-wide maximum, and likely fewer. Secondly, if they travel close to human populations, it is likely done very carefully and at night. Thirdly, if they travel in snow, it likely melts off before people find the tracks. Finally, snow is a lousy medium to cast in, and prints distort rather quickly. If you're looking for prints in snow, it should be soon after a light snowfall of less than 12", and it should be for the purpose of finding fresh sign; a location where a sasquatch is nearby.

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24 minutes ago, Huntster said:

 

Depends on their range and likely movements. For example, if they do indeed inhabit Florida, it's not likely that you will find sasquatch footprints in the snow there.

 

And if their seasonal movements are like other animals (like the deer they likely prey on occasionally), they follow the melting snow uphill in spring and early summer, inhabit the high country during the summer, and they get pushed down by snow into the lower elevations where the occasional snows that fall melt quicker. 

 

Eastern Washington has winter sasquatch track finds in snow in the lower elevations rather regularly. Sunnyslope, Bossburg, Walla Walla, etc. This may be because the lower elevations east of the Cascades is a high plateau, fairly cold, and it holds snow longer.

 

There are quite a few winter sightings west of the Cascades and Olympic Mountains where there is little snow, and that makes all the sense in the world. 

 

 

 

 

I tend to disagree with such theories. First of all, I don't think there are many of these creatures at all; 5,000 continent-wide maximum, and likely fewer. Secondly, if they travel close to human populations, it is likely done very carefully and at night. Thirdly, if they travel in snow, it likely melts off before people find the tracks. Finally, snow is a lousy medium to cast in, and prints distort rather quickly. If you're looking for prints in snow, it should be soon after a light snowfall of less than 12", and it should be for the purpose of finding fresh sign; a location where a sasquatch is nearby.

 

What I'm doing is going by reported sightings . These are snow states . Now grant you many are of mistaken identity I'm sure but still these states now rank up there with

Washington and CA for sightings .You mentioned the number of 5000 and I think that sounds about right in order to keep a breeding population alive.

 

  1. Pennsylvania (1,340 sightings)
  2. Michigan (1,131 sightings)
  3. New York (1,068 sightings)
  4. Ohio (1,042 sightings)
  5. Oregon (1,009 sightings

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35 minutes ago, 7.62 said:

What I'm doing is going by reported sightings . These are snow states . Now grant you many are of mistaken identity I'm sure but still these states now rank up there with Washington and CA for sightings........

 

I call that the Media Effect (specifically, Harry and the Hendersons, which made sasquatch a household pet, and Finding Bigfoot, which made sasquatch as common as coyotes):

 

http://www.photekimaging.com/Support/rptcol2.pdf

 

......Let’s assume that manufactured reports will be uni- formly distributed across the population. If the rate of manufactured reports is constant, then the frequency of reports should correlate to population. To some degree, this is seen in Group B.

There may be other unidentified influencing factors such as mean media exposure to Big- foot, which may influence the density of manufacturing.

 

The author speculates that Group A and Group B repre- sent different phenomenon. Group B may represent manufactured reports because of the correlation to popu- lation, whereas Group A may represent a different phe- nomenon because of its correlation to population density. The author hypothesizes that if Green’s data is the superposition of multiple phenomena that this is the expected result.......

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Another critical thing to remember is that the Bigfoot phenomenon and the UFO phenomenon run the same pattern of carrot dangling. That alone should give someone pause. In other words, this is the internet and as a result one must seriously consider that those carrot-dangling patterns WILL NOT WORK unless there is a certain level of filtering going on as to what the public gets to see and read. What I'm saying is that we essentially don't know what's really going on. The issue is I don't know if there's a way around it unless people skip past the internet and start communicating one on one in traditional style. It would take a certain level of understanding that the solution to either subject will not be forthcoming on the web as it has become a trap of sorts that snares thinking and disseminated gov-speak and hides truth.

 

Back when the 'old guard' was writing letters and making phone calls information channels, while not perfect, could be better trusted- as long as the government's voice on paranormal subjects could be circumvented. Specifically with regard to Bigfoot. What if the PGF was shot in 2019 as opposed to 1967? The fact of the matter is we don't KNOW if there has been great Bigfoot films shot recently in the last 10 years with all the new surveillance networks around. Truth is we'll never know. It just seems odd to me that what's available on the internet always seems to have the same level of quality (poor) and even duration when it comes to Bigfoot footage. That fact alone tells me there MUST be better stuff but we're not getting any of it.

 

Information shutdown is too easy. It's almost as if there is only a kind of patterned filtering that the public gets exposed to. everything is just to conveniently out of reach ACROSS THE BOARD as far as the truth about Bigfoot. Only a certain low level quality of video, text, and information that NEVER says much of anything. Personally I think there's a lot that we never get to see or know about. We need a way of somehow beating the system to move ahead. Or be forever stagnant and at the mercy of those who control the truth. The good reports, the good videos, and the definitive answer to the Bigfoot mystery is not in our hands. I'm convinced after studying the nature and purpose of the world wide web that anything that would damage established wealth will not be overturned by what is on the internet. And the truth about Bigfoot would do just that. As would the truth about UFOs. In the meantime let the bad videos and the information cap continue but just be aware of the purpose behind them.       

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9 hours ago, hiflier said:

Using a rabbit as toilet paper.

 

Wait, what? I feel so inadequate that I've missed this revealing tidbit. Holy cow, in my view, this changes EVERYTHING.

 

Gosh, as I consider further, couldn't a savvy researcher capture such an abused bunny and collect fecal DNA material?

 

The inquiring mind explodes.

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I stuck it in there as a joke to see if anyone was paying attention. Looks like you are :) 

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