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Bf "escorting" People Out Of An Area

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We know that Sasquatch has habituated humans for some reasons that seem to be harmless and tuned into their immediate environment..  Reasons may include:  graveyards, watershed sources that never dry up, cut-off valleys that humans must break a leg to get to, bowl-like inclusions in mtns that allow multiple lines of egress and ingress and you'd be a fool to try to trap them, etc. etc. etc. 

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Didn't even consider trapping them Biped...  the thought never crossed my mind. I agree it would be foolish in the extreme if anyone were to have the opportunity.

 

Thanks all for your input, the consensus seems to be that BF is protecting something (family, food or shelter) when they escort people out of an area, at least temporarily.

 

If it is protecting something, I disagree that it's not an aggressive display...  it could be the lowest level of aggression, to be escalated according to the reaction of the victim.

 

What if the person were to approach and confront it instead of fleeing?

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Sure it could be a form of predation or worse, such as kidnapping for whatever purpose.

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Didn't even consider trapping them Biped...  the thought never crossed my mind. I agree it would be foolish in the extreme if anyone were to have the opportunity.

 

Thanks all for your input, the consensus seems to be that BF is protecting something (family, food or shelter) when they escort people out of an area, at least temporarily.

 

If it is protecting something, I disagree that it's not an aggressive display...  it could be the lowest level of aggression, to be escalated according to the reaction of the victim.

 

What if the person were to approach and confront it instead of fleeing?

 

Approach=avoidance=escape      Quite the conundrum.   There is some evidence BF will bluff charge like a Silverback.  But, would you want to be the one to test the premise if you were already aware of a sensitive area that had raised aggressive responding in the past?  Guess it depends on the purpose and plan of your research.  I am reminded of the Derek Randles incident using the "baby crying" looped recording as he stood near a creek bottom below some ridges.  Apparently it provoked a full on charge down a mtn breaking stuff in it's path and an immediate hulk in front of him heavily breathing in the night.  I believe he never used that technique again.  

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I think that the P/G film is a good example of this escorting behavior. Patty was traveling in the same direction as they were. If flight was the primary motivation of Patty, she would not have continued along the creek with little or no cover. She would have turned and gone 90 degrees to the humans direction of travel towards the nearest cover or where they could not follow on horses. The explanation for her behavior could be her prominent breasts. She was most likely lactating and was trying to get to where her infant was stashed before the humans did.

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Bigfoot "escorting" people out of an area OP, how very gallant of them.

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Approach=avoidance=escape Quite the conundrum. There is some evidence BF will bluff charge like a Silverback. But, would you want to be the one to test the premise if you were already aware of a sensitive area that had raised aggressive responding in the past? Guess it depends on the purpose and plan of your research. I am reminded of the Derek Randles incident using the "baby crying" looped recording as he stood near a creek bottom below some ridges. Apparently it provoked a full on charge down a mtn breaking stuff in it's path and an immediate hulk in front of him heavily breathing in the night. I believe he never used that technique again.

That could have been a predation reaction as well........

Some of my rabbit calls sound very close to a baby crying. That's good news about Derek for me.

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 She was most likely lactating and was trying to get to where her infant was stashed before the humans did.

 

I don't think any of the apes "stash" their babies?  

 

They wouldn't have got the good footage of the guy in the suit if he hadn't walked where he did.  Perfect travel route for posing.  Most wild things would have bolted 90 degrees as you say.

 

t.

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I only wish I could convey to each and every one of you what I heard last July. Then let me hear your explanation as to what is it. Escorting intruders is real.

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Terry: Most apes are vegetarian so would never need to put down an infant. An omnivore preditor could not chase down large game carrying an infant. And finally we don't even know BF is an ape, some other primate or human hybrid. So what apes do could have little bearing on Patty's behavior.

The P/G film has been argued to death on other threads. I am not going to take the bait and address it here. I have personally talked to Bob Gimlin enough that I believe his account of what happened that day. Not many skeptics have ever met the man.

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No bait intended.  Just my opinion and yes it has been argued to death so no need to discuss.  You did bring it up though.  

 

The thing is, if a youngster is to be stashed, like a fawn for example, they should have the instinct to stay completely still and as well not carry any scent that predators can pick up.  I don't think any in the ape family, including humans, have the instincts to behave this way.   Again though, it's just my opinion.

 

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No bait intended.  Just my opinion and yes it has been argued to death so no need to discuss.  You did bring it up though.  

 

The thing is, if a youngster is to be stashed, like a fawn for example, they should have the instinct to stay completely still and as well not carry any scent that predators can pick up.  I don't think any in the ape family, including humans, have the instincts to behave this way.   Again though, it's just my opinion.

 

t.

I don't know either about stashing but I do know that female BF carry around juveniles.    Personal experience as well as some reports and a few photos.     Along with those reports juveniles of being carried are some where juveniles are seen in trees.     It could be that as soon as a juvenile is capable of climbing, putting it in a tree would provide an excellent level of safety.     Humans, large cats, and bears are about the only things that can climb trees that would be interested in a juvenile BF.     And getting it in a tree would make picking up the smell by a predator less likely.    Who knows maybe a bigfoot would put the juvenile in a tree and mark all around it with urine.   I have the feeling that most predators do not want to mess with adult BF and marking might be a good repellant.     Certainly a tree  gets it out of reach of wolves and coyotes.    Just another aspect of BF that we do not know a lot about. 

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If some guy came onto my property and I had the ability to spook him off I certainly would.

Animals either want you to know who is in charge or want you to leave all together.

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