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  2. Madison5716

    Searching For Bigfoot in Oregon

    Date & Time - Sunday, December 5, 2021. From 10 to 4pm Weather - Around 40, weak sunshine, pretty nice but cold Locations - First, a lake and then forest roads above it into the hills. What Happened- NorthWind and I returned to the lake where we found track lines a few weeks ago. We found the old lines, fuzzing out to rain and weathering, but mostly humans and their dogs. There were some questionable small prints near the path down to the water, but they were at least a week old and beginning to lose definition. We could identify toes and right/left, but otherwise they were not exciting. We drove up into the forest above the lake and took a mile walk down a closed-off road. We found three interesting things - a beautifully twisted thin plant, some tree edge twists and a pile of ferns just off the path/road that looked odd. We've seen the twists here before, and were able to identify last year's twists near the new ones. The walk down this road was beautiful. It had a couple of very small ponds alongside it in several places, and a huge 50 foot ridge above the road nearly the entire way. A very interesting area. We will be back. We also waited around eating a late lunch on top by my truck, and we both thought we heard footsteps and branch breaks a couple times, but the FLIR revealed nothing any time.
  3. In the mean time.....(key word: "mean"), it's a meany-head cat.
  4. Madison5716

    Searching For Bigfoot in Oregon

    The forest with the treeline pix felt empty to me, but the forest above it felt ominous and foreboding. Woodknock lake, where we spent a night this summer, felt exasperated and happy we were leaving. The other lake that we hiked to and got a close, loud knock - i sensed curiosity. Unfortunately it startled me, since i wasn't expecting anything there, and I could not reciprocate. I'd like to rectify that and try again at that lake, and try gifting there. It is all in my interpretation and gut feeling, but we HAVE gut feelings and intuitions for a reason. When NorthWind and i agree on a gut feeling without discussion, I trust it more.
  5. Walking or standing height? Imagine yourself with 36" shoulders for a 7' walking height, P-G. Even stopped and standing taller it's still a pretty unbelievable span. I wouldn't keep bringing this up but it really is kind of proportionally significant when discussing Patty-reality issues.
  6. It was clearly some form of panther. They have been sighted (including black) in Appalachia in increasing numbers over the last couple of decades and been denied by F&G for just as long because they want them to gain back lost habitat. One even cleaned out the livestock of a farm just a few miles from me in central NC. They don't only kill for food. If you run from it you trigger an attack instinct and they will attack and in this case kill whatever it can catch.
  7. Nice catch. Pretty glaring contradiction.
  8. Patterson-Gimlin

    The Proof is Out There: Patterson Gimlin film

    Thanks for the link. I actually think they are correct. I have always believed the film subject to be a seven footer.
  9. Pretty sure that's what the Sheriff was thinking, too.
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  11. Patterson-Gimlin

    It’s winter time!

    Awesome pics. Thanks for sharing. Early white Christmas.
  12. Regardless of what did the slaying, not wanting to cause a panic is not reason enough to me to not warn people. Whatever caused these slayings happened and the people have a right to be warned. Covering up whatever did it only puts more people in jeopardy.
  13. But I can also see why F&W didn't want to scare the members of the public, or have them thinking about it too much. Now. Why would I say such a thing? Because the thing killed THREE horses and a dog. For what? Just to have a little snack because it was hungry??!!? I don't know what anyone thinks but even lions in Africa only take down one animal to feast on. This was FOUR counting the dog. That must have bee some kind of fast attack, right? Probably corralled together? But one would think that if one went down in violence then at least one or two horses would have bolted, or moved off to a corner, even if the dog stayed to challenge the attacker. No one said what kind of dog it was. But here's the thing, that incident sure looks like there could have MORE than just one predator at work. The F&W Game Wardens maybe took one look at the scene and took that into consideration. Because I don't see how one predator did all of that so deadly and fast. Maybe it wasn't that fast? Either way how did the wild animal manage to slay all four? The bigger question would be "WHY" when one animal, even if it was the dog, would have been enough of a meal. Something tells me that that's why F&W told the Sheriff to tone down his notice for cautioning the public. Because that was too savage a slaying even for a hungry wild animal. Hopefully that has crossed the mind of someone in that area or the Sheriff himself.
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  15. This has been going on for a long time. They cook the books to meet their agenda. They are lying thugs.
  16. norseman

    It’s winter time!

    Did some plowing and trail clearing today. Only saw deer and rabbit tracks.
  17. norseman

    How to hunt

    Bill Munns concurs with you. Thanks for retelling it!
  18. MIB

    How to hunt

    Yeah. Initially it was wading. The current where we first saw it is pretty fast, maybe 12 mph and 3-1/2 feet deep. Where it passed in front of us, the current slows slightly but gets deeper, then slows and goes over a shallow gravel bar, through / along some ledgy riffle, then drops into deeper water, probably 15 feet or more. I'm very familiar with that spot since it was more or less in front of our house. We'd wade / swim our horses there in summer and I fished it from bank and boat including guiding. The water at the nearest point where it passed by us runs 4-1/2 to a little over 5 feet deep .. river bottoms shift each year. Typically if I got out that far, it'd knock me over but usually I could bounce along with my feet bumping over rocks and the water hitting just under my chin. It appeared to be crotch deep at that spot. Given that they seem to have shorter legs than we do relative to their torso length I think I must have been looking at something exceeding 10 feet by at least a little bit. The last we saw of it after it'd dropped into deep water, it was going around a bend in the river, heading almost due west into the fading post-sunset reflection. Water was flat enough to get a pretty clear look. It was armpit deep swimming, not head down at surface level like a bear or dog, and swam with it's arms under water, not overhead ... so dog paddle or breast stroke but with it's head high. I'm convinced that if it were a suit, it would have been so heavy, so waterlogged there'd have been a drowning.
  19. Patterson-Gimlin

    It’s winter time!

    No worries. I understand. We were talking about two different things. Snow tracks in my opinion are easily misidentified. Melting Snow and ice distort tracks, but so does everything. I actually like some Snow tracks in hard ice that requires great weight to make. Such as the ones made by the Yeti according to the sherpas.
  20. OldMort

    Missing 411

    A few more details from the "official report." Couple found dead on California trail likely died trying to save baby from heat (yahoo.com)
  21. People should check out this story if they think Fish and Game will not stop at anything to protect a species that is not suppose to exist in an area (not BF). https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=watch_permalink&v=694361530922438
  22. norseman

    It’s winter time!

    The best tracks are in snow. Because snow will register every single step the creature makes. And if the track way is doggedly followed? Will result in finding the creature. So long as the snow field holds out and it doesn’t snow another large amount obliterating the trackway. Im not talking about what medium makes the best plaster cast or shows the most detail. In any given forest the amount of substrate that holds a track is limited. I suppose there are some trackers out there that could follow a track way through a forest and across rock beds and cricks and the what not. But it would seem the creature walks faster than a tracker can track….. Which is another boon for winter track ways. The creature isn’t going to out pace a snow bike.
  23. Patterson-Gimlin

    It’s winter time!

    Agree. The best tracks are from soil not rain forests or snow. I actually did spend a lot of time looking in Florida and California. I have seen tracks but assumed they were human . Still do. Bad back, feet and knees hamper my outdoor activities. I did lose 70 pounds and that helped.
  24. norseman

    How to hunt

    It was in a river?
  25. MIB

    How to hunt

    That's one of the pieces of the puzzle that assures me what I saw in 1976 was not a person in a suit.
  26. norseman

    How to hunt

    I would say the risk of drowning is worse…. Yes. That and you don’t look like Bigfoot anymore.
  27. Twist

    How to hunt

    Is it any worse than frolicking in the woods in a man ape suit? Never underestimate the stupidity of people looking for internet content.
  28. Some state fish and game biologists and administrators have to be in in an organized effort to downplay discovery. Obviously sone states have more activity and some have little to none. Also, as here in Alaska, wildlife biologists operating in Game Management Units 1 & 2 are most likely to actually come across evidence, and other management areas would not, so biologists from areas with no activity would likely be skeptical (to say the least), which would inspire a biologist looking at a nest to keep his mouth shut for the benefit of his career. This is essentially what Lyle Laverty did..........mostly. He did get noted as an interested individual during the Bluff Creek years, but was clearly not seeking fame and fortune.
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