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  2. PBeaton

    The Actual Developing Of The Pgf (3)

    Frank explained how the license purchased from Kodak bound Technicolor to a multi-faceted agreement. The agreement was actually for the protection of both the licensee and Kodak. It allowed Kodak to perform on-site inspection and certification of the laboratory, the logging of all films processed by the laboratory and making the logs available for periodic review, and monitoring of the lab by Kodak to assure chemicals and equipment and trained personnel were used by the lab in keeping with predefined operational standards. Kodak was also required to make certain chemicals and precursor materials available to the licensee. He explained that violating the agreement could potentially jeopardize the license and of course any investment associated with the license. Frank believed Leonard Tall, the owner, would never jeopardize his considerable investment and Technicolor’s license by allowing the use of the lab outside the confines of the license protocol and agreement. Certainly, any employee caught violating the protocols would be terminated. I've mentioned this twice already Twist, he may have been the owner, but he had signed a contract with Kodak. Ishihara even mentions violatin' that contact could jeopardize his license an thus his business. Why do you think Ishihara brought that up ? For the government job, he brought in Ishihara, perhaps that was part of the contract with Kodak, that the process was not to be done alone for liability reasons. Again, Ishihara has said... "Working outside lab policies could risk a mistake that would invoke a violation of the license with Kodak." Tall owned multiple camera stores if I recall, all it takes is a call to one by DeAtley, he explains he is in need of gettin' a film developed, gets Tall's number. DeAtley says he'll make it worth his while, Tall knows he can do it easy enough but tells DeAtley he could loose his license, DeAtley says he'll keep it a secret were he got it developed.
  3. Old Time Lifter

    To Anthropomorphize

    The fact that they may have (if they exist) evolved a foot nearly like ours isn't a big surprise if they are a primate. Also, saying humans can't survive in the wild is disproven by the fact that for most of our time here on earth we did just that.
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  5. PBeaton

    To Anthropomorphize

    Hunster, The sasquatch lackin' a divergent big toe doesn't necessarily mean it is more human like in my opinion, simply shares a characteristic associated with bipedalism. A gorilla may spend more time on the ground, but it is still a quadruped. My opinion, they share more characteristics with the other great apes than man. Pat...
  6. OldMort

    The Actual Developing Of The Pgf (3)

    Its all good Twist... Its to be expected. When the confirmation bias kicks in and the wagon circling begins, its always a sure sign that an uncomfortable truth has finally been realized.
  7. norseman

    Cascade footage from 96

    I hope so! Im counting on being able to positively ID the target. Which is not easy as its an undocumented species. I have the PGF to judge by only. But if I think I see a zipper? Im gonna have to let it walk.
  8. norseman

    To Anthropomorphize

    Neither do Gorillas, Chimps and Orangutans. Neither do Grizzly bears, Wolves or Cougars. But the point is? They are also not human. Humans make tools and use them. They do not. And Humans are not specialists. We are generalists..... that is our strength. Bigfoot does not live in the Congo, nor the Arctic, nor the Sahara. We live and THRIVE in all 3. Plus we crossed the land bridge and live in the PacNW. We essentially are everywhere.
  9. NatFoot

    To Anthropomorphize

    That's a fair point however I believe it to be inaccurate. BF may be better suited to live in the wild but the fact that we have the ability to think and create technology makes us superior. In fact, unless BF are aliens, they will never be able to live anywhere but here. We MIGHT be able to figure that out at some point. Even then, with our technology, our lives must be considerably easier than that of BFs.
  10. Madison5716

    To Anthropomorphize

    What use would Bigfoot have for tools when it's strength and stealth serve instead? It does not need those things to survive and thrive. We homo sapiens cannot exist without our tools. From another prospective, perhaps that makes us weak and unable to survive in the wild world. We are handicapped and must improvise to survive. Plus we are fouling our own nests. Really, not too smart. We are clever monkeys, but we are not wise. Who might have the best chance at !ong term survival? Who knows. Bigfoots are perfectly matched to their habitats. We are not. Just a few thoughts I've had. If we are looking at successful species, it's not going to be us in the long term. I went out today in the woods and would have been dead within hours with clothing, boots and gear. I was thinking - in their world, we are losers. I haven't read the whole thread, sorry if I'm off topic. I'm trying to read and type and my kid won't stop talking and demand my attention. I give up. I'll be back later, lol. Ugh.
  11. norseman

    To Anthropomorphize

    No worries. In my mind at least? Bigfoot has been proven to exist in the old world. So the question becomes? Does it exist TODAY in North America?
  12. Class C and low rating SSR due to total lack of details, but SSR entry done anyway due to known date and location.
  13. See also: http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=3569 See also: http://www.pabigfootsociety.com/sightingslycoming.html SSRID: 2864 Report Score: 6 Sighting Date: 08/03/1997 Sighting Time: 13:00 Moonphase: Duration (mm:ss): Season: 2 - Summer (Jun 20 - Sep 19) State: PA County: Lycoming Latitude: 41.190877 Longitude: -77.150057 Altitude: 841.00 ft BFRO Class: A - Class A Sighting Type: S - Single Creature Witness: 2 - Multiple, no evidence Witness Activity: G - Hiking Witness Gender: Male Witness Age: Witness Feeling: 0 - Unknown Witness Occupation: Terrain: F - Forest Zoning: R - Rural Photo Evidence: N - None Footprint Evidence: N - None Footprint Length: 0 - 0" Stride Length: 0 ft 0 in Height (ft): 7 Height (in): 0 Hair/fur Color: N - Brown Skin: U - Unknown Organization: BFRO John Green 992840 Researcher: Don Keating Confidence: Somewhat Report URL: http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=3569 Biological Evidence Animal Activity Q - Squatting / Sitting Animal Disposition S - Surprised Animal Locomotion R - Running Weather Other O - Odor
  14. In what scenario does Tall have to do this secretly? He’s the owner and man in charge, he had no secret to keep, he’s not in fear of losing his job. So when doing a special government job of a bomb explosion Tall will involve Frank to help out but BF is to top secret??? Can anyone provide ANY ties of Al to Tall? The mental gymnastics some will do.....
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  16. NatFoot

    To Anthropomorphize

    Fair enough points by both of you! I will say that, I stand adjusted? Does that make sense?
  17. norseman

    To Anthropomorphize

    Correct. We have zero proof of ANY alien life. Although it seems incredulous that we would be alone in the vastness of space. We have alot of evidence of Bigfoot like creatures existing on Earth and even very recently.
  18. Huntster

    To Anthropomorphize

    I'm well beyond that. I "believe" in the existence like I believe in God and Jesus Christ. I had a "maybe" experience (footprint/trackway find) that I felt then and now was pretty strong evidence, I've looked into the phenomenon extensively, I've reasoned it out, and I now believe based upon what I've experienced, learned, and reasoned. The same is true with my belief in the God of Abraham; I've experienced, educated myself, and reasoned it out. In short, it's belief in a phenomenon that cannot or has yet to be proven, but that is supported with evidence. It is as much fact as we can glean at this time; the toes are aligned in front without an opposed big toe that is built for grasping. Even gorillas, mostly ground dwellers, have such a big toe. No other living primate other than man has such a foot structure as what is leaving these tracks. That is not true at all. We know that hominins have lived on Earth in the past. It is undisputed. We now know (since just 2006] that 3' tall hominins lived on the island of Flores in Indonesia as recently as 12,000 years ago, and that area has a history of reports of 3' tall biped apes (Orang Pendek, or Ebu Gogo). We also know (since 2010) that Denisovans lived in Siberia as recently as 40,000 years ago, that they were "robust", and there have been legends of yeti and almas in the region up to this day. But there is no such knowledge of extra terrestrial life capable of space travel. In fact, science tells us that it is impossible for biologic entities to travel through time, which would be required to travel to the nearest solar system. It is science fiction, or misidentification with secret military aircraft.
  19. gigantor, I'm late with this but thanks for posting this report. I can agree with a score of 10; this was an excellent report. I can't think of another one I've read where the witness actually watched the creature make a vocalization; in this case a "scream/holler." The witness was also observant of details.
  20. norseman

    To Anthropomorphize

    Remember that the Australopethicenes have modern esque feet. (No divergent big toe) And walked upright. But are not in the genus Homo. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australopithecus This video shows the evolution of tool making. Our big muscular thumb and strong grip is a result of this practice. Hand and eye coordination is unmatched in the animal kingdom too. And of course the ultimate prize? Giant slabs of bloody red meat that is high in protien and gave us bigger and bigger brains. Our hands were in a arms race with our brains. Creating better and better weapons that eventually lead to our mastery of the planet. Bigfoot either checked out early in this human story? Or was never apart of it. Again, great Apes show human emotions. And are obviously distant cousins. Because tool making is at the core of being Human. And they do not seem to possess anything but the most rudimentary of skills. Despite chimps being much stronger than humans? Their thumbs and the muscle attached is rather pathetic when compared to a Human. Holding and flaking stone tools or gripping a spear shaft is not what their hands are designed for. Their hands are besigned to swing from branches and knuckle walk. Their thumb is there for grasping but not to the level of sophistication ours is.
  21. NatFoot

    To Anthropomorphize

    I can say this because I'm a believer and not a knower, but imagine if this is all a farce. People dedicating large amounts of time, brain space and money to something completely made up? Only reason I quoted you hunster is because your comment about their foot structure was made as a fact. It's really fascinating. Same could be said for the UFO phenomenon as well.
  22. I'd say that is the single most reasonable scenario presented for any answer so far. It is one where all of the pieces fit, no cherry-picking to discard evidence necessary. MIB
  23. Huntster

    To Anthropomorphize

    That is a great post, my friend. Most remarkable about it was your mrntion of Koko learning sign language, yet she is a pongid. I will have to ponder that for a while. Sasquatches do not fashion tools and do not use fire, but in my opinion (unlike what anthropaleontologists might say) thatvdoes not mean that they aren't of the genus Homo. First of all, their foot structure is clearly more human than other primates. Secondly, there is reason to believe that their language is very humanlike. Thirdly, the rest of their physical build is more human than other primates. I believe that the only human criteria that does not fit sasquatches are (1) a lack of spiritualism, and (2) a lack of technology, and I believe that both of those attributes are not necessary for a "human" to live successfully in the temperate latitudes and thus simply not evolve into dependence on them.
  24. NatFoot

    To Anthropomorphize

    Great points @norseman. Something really doesn't add up. Then you have the folks saying their DNA matches as human.
  25. Old Time Lifter

    To Anthropomorphize

    Another point where it appears we agree.
  26. norseman

    To Anthropomorphize

    Homo Erectus was creating hand axes over 2 million years ago. From my perspective there are some giant holes in the behavior of Bigfoot that excludes them from the genus Homo. Koko can sign to you that she is crushed that her cat died. And that is impressive. But she will never pick up two rocks and strike one into a weapon to hunt and butcher game with. She doesnt even eat red meat to begin with. So either somehow Bigfoot lost its ability and will to create stone tools and weapons? Or more likely? It never possessed those abilities to begin with. Because its a bipedal great ape that is not in the genus Homo.
  27. Old Time Lifter

    To Anthropomorphize

    I suspect they are more ape-like than most want to believe. We anthropomorphize our dogs and cats for pity sake.
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