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  3. I have mentioned my interest in sasquatch to all of my friends and family. Two friends (out of ~30) don't believe and don't talk about it. One other friend laughed when I brought it up but I calmly walked him through why, the experiences I have had, and the general areas things have occurred. He knows those general areas and now is always asking me if I've seen or heard anything. My family all are interested and buy me BF teeshirts, mugs, air fresheners, and other items. My sister treated me to a visit to a sasquatch museum in northwest Georgia when I visited her two years ago. I've never felt any ridicule and have found that people are almost always interested once I explain what I, and other people they know, have seen or heard. I'll walk them through a specific incident, such as a wood knock incident I had. I'll describe what happened and what I did to eliminate all possible explanations. Then I ask them what I missed an welcome an open dialogue with them. I find that inviting their input and engaging them in the discussion really helps to stimulate their curiosity and open their minds to the subject.
  4. I have multiple close friends that have also had encounters so around them there’s no ridicule. I talk about it at work sometimes and while some raise eyebrows or make jokes no one really cares about my interest. I had one co worker bring in some hair in a baggie he thought could be BF. It was very interesting hair that to this day I’m not sure of the source.
  5. Franco

    Expedition Bigfoot :Travel Channel

    The assasin had to of removed the portions of Lewis Journals..... Not Because of BF..... Mr. Chandler believes that Thomas Jefferson engineered a coverup of the truth surrounding his protege's death. Astoundingly, after Lewis's untimely death, Jefferson claimed that Lewis had been mentally unbalanced all along, thus rationalizing his death as suicide. This even though Jefferson brought Lewis into his tutelage as a surrogate son, made him his presidential secretary and had sent him with William Clark on the most famous expedition on American soil to facilitate the Louisiana Purchase. Jefferson also appointed Lewis governor of this territory. Never had any mental problems been hinted at before Lewis's untimely death, by Jefferson or anyone. Why such a seeming betrayal by the Founding Father? Apparently to protect a man who had done considerable dirty work for Jefferson, Gen. James Wilkinson. Mr. Chandler calls the renegade general "the most highly placed traitor known to American history." Wilkinson was instrumental in manufacturing the Aaron Burr conspiracy, which proved a fraud. Burr was Jefferson's political archenemy. Jefferson made sure Wilkinson was brought before a military tribunal, not Congress, so that the shadowy operative would be exonerated. Jefferson managed to have another military panel conclude that Wilkinson was not culpable in Lewis's death. Wilkinson was privy to many a presidential intrigue and was not a man Jefferson wanted to be linked to in the pages of history. The general was a longtime spy for the Spanish crown, which Jefferson knew but did not want validated by congressional inquiry. What fear did Wilkinson have about Lewis's trip to Washington in the fall of 1809? Why did Lewis avoid the easier water route through New Orleans, where Wilkinson had imposed martial law? Wilkinson was afraid his fraudulent land dealings in Missouri would be revealed by Lewis, who was traveling to see President Madison in Washington on a secret mission at the time of his death.
  6. Patterson-Gimlin

    Can't discuss bigfoot with friends, and family.

    Just the opposite . My family members believe in the mythical beast. I am the skeptic who doubts their existence. No specimen means .No existence. No book,film,foot prints or eyewitnesses holds up to scrutiny.
  7. BlackRockBigfoot

    New Intriguing Trail Cam Pics out of New Jersey??

    Lol. That sounds AWESOME. Forget Bigfoot research. I want to go into the woods and look for THAT! Later, boys. I'm off to the Short Three Eyed Cthulhu Forums.
  8. gotafeeling

    Jeep camping in winter

    Yes, Joe! I wondered where it was, and it's up in your neck of the woods! When I watched the video I thought of you, and wondered if you'd camped that area. What a view!
  9. Funny enough - there is a Sasquatch 101 book out by Charles Kimbrough. Only $4 on Amazon Kindle. (I'm reading for free because I have Kindle Unlimited) https://www.amazon.com/SQUATCHIN-101-Start-Bigfoot-Research/dp/1796831662 I'm only 1/3 through and I can't say there is anything so far that surprises me, but I could see this as a good place for a newby to start. I have no problem convincing my family. My son has had sightings and my daughter got a rock thrown to her (not at her) on her very first outing. They believe me...
  10. NatFoot

    Expedition Bigfoot :Travel Channel

    @Huntster @hiflier You guys, amongst others, are the reasons I keep coming back. Not only the allure of unproven beasts, but the knowledge of much more. Kudos to the two of you and "cheers!" to the rest. Thank you.
  11. Sharing bigfoot information with those around you can be frustrating when the topic changes to bigfoot. Many self proclaimed experts deny the existence of bigfoot. The uninformed don’t realize in recent times, over 100 individuals wandering the forest of Oregon are eye witnesses. So far, my family group of seven, ridicule any suggestion of Sasquatch and my enjoyment of discussing this topic goes cold. Same problem? Any suggestions? Give them a 10 page bigfoot basic 101 book?
  12. joebeelart

    Jeep camping in winter

    Love this string. How do I download the video? That has to be up The Oregon Bigfoot High Way. I almost recognize some of the curves. 14 tent nights in 2019 down from 24 tent nights in 2018, most up the High Way. Didn't want to mount a winch, so I bought a come-along and went to the industrial wire store in NW Portland. They rigged me up with a couple of aircraft cables and a coupling if I needed length. I only had to pull myself out once, but helped some other folks the most notable being both a small truck towing a boat that the driver somehow managed to get both in the ditch up near the headwaters of the Warm Springs River. Had it for years in a box, then someone stole my handy winch and a bunch of other stuff out of my truck. Need to replace it for next "season." Happy Holidays Everybody ! Oh, I have a friend in central Oregon that has had a Z2 for a long, long time. He swears by it, and at it on occasion too.
  13. Um, gigantor, something tells me the man would like some donor recognition. Whaddaya say?
  14. bipedalist

    Expedition Bigfoot :Travel Channel

    Cool stuff Lewis and Clark. Camping on islands has resulted in many homo sapiens being bear food, some even when warned they were off limits.
  15. Hey You don't always get one . I donated on the 8th
  16. Explorer

    Expedition Bigfoot :Travel Channel

    In the article linked below, it states that the BF "hot zone" where the investigation took place was in the vicinity of the Ochoco National Forest. Attached below is map of the Oregon's National Forests showing location of Ochoco NF. https://www.oregonlive.com/entertainment/2019/12/travel-channels-expedition-bigfoot-comes-to-oregon-in-search-of-the-legendary-beast.html The Ochoco NF is within 4 Oregon counties: Crook, Harney, Wheeler and Grant (see map below). However, when I checked the SSR database for BF reports from those 4 counties, I did not see a large representation (only 7). If you go west from Crook County into Deschutes county, then reports increase by an additional 16. I was just curious about location and whether the claim that their algorithm chose this location as prime BF location for May-June was supported by SSR database. Maybe the assumption of being near of Ochoco NF is incorrect.
  17. hiflier

    Expedition Bigfoot :Travel Channel

    That's not all the Spanish on the West Coast had to deal with. The author may have taken some artistic license for the sake of the novel but he quoted a Spanish report along with others that I found interesting: "1792, Spanish naturalist, Jose Mariano Mozino, recounts from his exploration of the British Columbia coast a warning from its native peoples: '[The Matlox], inhabitant of the mountainous country, of whom all have unspeakable terror. They figure it has a monstrous body, all covered with black animal hair; the head of a Human; but the eyeteeth very sharp and strong; like those of the bear; the arms very large; and the toes and fingers armed with large curved claws. His howls fell to the ground those who hear them, and he smashes into a thousand pieces the unfortunate on whom a blow of his hands falls.' " I'm really enjoying the book; a 200 year old secret kept to insure corporate greed regarding wealth and power from the harvesting of natural resources. In this case it's a government cover-up that's been successfully eliminating Bigfoots where ever they find them. The novel is very similar in concept to my own with a different premise and storyline.
  18. Huntster

    Expedition Bigfoot :Travel Channel

    That's a new one on me. Of course, there were other mysteries regarding Lewis, primarily his death, but that was after the expedition. There were also other journals written by Clark and the other men, but those of Lewis were the most extensive and detailed, because he was the expedition leader by appointment of Jefferson, and was explicitly told to record it well. But it stands to reason that they would at least have heard something of the creatures from the natives while spending the winter at Fort Clatsop or possibly come across tracks on their journey. But, again, being completely ignorant of the existence of grizzly bears upon the beginning of their expedition, they might have attributed sasquatch tracks to an enormous grizzly. One of the things about their ignorance of grizzlies that amazed me was the fact that brown bears are so well known throughout Europe at the time. Moreover, the Spanish had been dealing with them on the west coast for literally hundreds of years at that point, proving that communication between European powers were poor either by intent or inefficiency.
  19. hiflier

    Expedition Bigfoot :Travel Channel

    I keep telling you we are on the same wavelength, Huntster. I took delivery this week on a book that came out in 2006 called "Cryptid". It's by a Seattle man named Eric Penz. The book opens up with Lewis and Clark. The premise is that Meriwether Lewis has gaps in his handwritten journals because President Thomas Jefferson removed some of them after William Clark delivered them to him. The story explains that the reason the few journals were removed from the rest was because they spoke of a large "primate" in the Olympic Peninsula and the thinking was that if the public knew they would be too afraid to go there and begin the process of taking the resources from the land. I highly recommend the book of which used copies can be found on Amazon. I have emailed the author and am looking forward to some interesting talks. And By the way the creature in the book is Gigantopithicus which doesn't surprise me since that giant ape was considered by Dr. Grover Krantz and others to BE Sasquatch in North America. Or at least Sasquatch's evolutionary ancestor.
  20. Incorrigible1

    Expedition Bigfoot :Travel Channel

    Bison were natural prey for the grizzlies. Also remember, elk were plains-dwellers until driven into the mountains.
  21. Agreed on both counts. A big thanks to @DrBunsonHoneyDew for bringing Mark to our attention. Definitely a huge thanks to @Photogfor getting his boots on the ground and being there to support Mark and provide equipment. I know that we all want evidence on the existence of this creature, but everyone wanted Mark and his family to be safe and sound even more. I am new to this forum, but there are some extremely bright and (even more important) caring people on here. It has been impressive watching you all work this problem and provide Mark with assistance. Kudos to you, BFF.
  22. The surveillance does put a new spin on things now. The new moon in a couple of weeks will tell Mark, Photog, and the rest of us much. Either nothing will be any longer around and the cams have possibly chased something away, or the opposite. And as much as I don't wish Mark and his family to be hassled anymore, I can't help but think......If they do get revisited then cameras have no effect which is something I subscribe to. I honestly do not think, as much as has been discussed on the issue, that cameras are the factor that folks think they are. And I agree with Photog, the history there would favor Christmas week. This time there are cameras. It will be an interesting test regarding BF surveillance theory. If no activity then two choices: Something has moved on......or cams keep something at bay. If there's activity then cams are not a factor......or not enough of a factor to override curiosity or hunger. Welcome to the scientific method, Mark. Ultimately I hope all will be well.
  23. I'm so happy to hear you and your family have had some quiet nights, even though you are still a bit on edge. I think all of us would still be if we had your experiences. We have a good group of researchers here at your disposal. Feel free to post any questions, concerns or photos/videos you need to talk about. There is usually someone online at any hour of the day. I'm looking forward to my return trip so we add a few more items to your defensive barrier along with doing some more walking in the forest. Tonight is our Full Moon and Christmas night will be the New Moon...we need to be prepared for around Christmas if we consider what gigantor found in the data from other encounters around Antlers.
  24. I love 2 things about this thread: 1. We helped. Although a lot has still be resolved... 2. Check out the BFF donor flags throughout the thread. This is required for us to be sustainable and I want it to be sustainable.
  25. Huntster

    Expedition Bigfoot :Travel Channel

    Remember that the mad dash westward with wagon trains of folks started in 1849 with the California Gold Rush.The really big changes came after that. The Lewis and Clark journals, filled with amazing stuff, were most amazing to me regarding grizzly bears, which they didn't even know existed in 1805. Moreover, when the Mandan Sioux told them about the bears, they wrote things in their journals belittling the Sioux about their fanciful tales. But well before arriving at the continental divide, Lewis wrote that he'd rather face 20 Indian warriors than one of those damned bears again. In fact, Lewis got shot in the ass by one of his men during a dust up with a bear on an island in the Missouri River that they stayed on one night particularly because they thought it would keep them from the bears.
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