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Once again, Greg Long’s execrable The Making of Bigfoot is useful because it locks in the statement of a relevant witness. In three separate conversations beginning in November 2003, Philip Morris described in “precise” detail how he made gorilla suits in the 1960s. He was describing the manufacturing process of suits similar to the one pictured at https://bigfootforums.com/topic/144126-19670805-book-roger-patterson-buys-this-exact-gorilla-costume-from-philip-morris/, the “exact type” of suit which he claims to have sold to Roger Patterson. The number following each statement below is the page number of Greg Long's book on which the information appears. I’ve added a few comments for clarification or to provide context; discussion of the import of Mr. Morris’s comments is best included in an appropriate thread elsewhere. ***** The Torso of the Suit ***** Philip Morris stated that: - The torso had a 36-inch zipper running down the back from the neck to the crotch. 449. The zipper was commonly used in automobiles with a convertible top. 450. - The torso’s plastic chest (see pictures) consisted of a 1-inch-thick layer of foam rubber sandwiched between two layers of black latex; it was used to “add bulk” to the suit. 449 – 450. - The heavy-duty zipper and latex chest piece were sewed into the Dynel fur at a tent and awning store “using a powerful” sewing machine. 450. - Bias fabric tape was added around the latex chest during the sewing to prevent it from tearing loose from the Dynel fur. 450. - The arms and legs of the torso were cut long, so that the suit would fit loosely. 450. Mr. Morris also described the arms as “extra long.” 456. However, the arms were not long enough to suit Roger Patterson’s purpose. 447. - The suit was not made to fit a person tightly. 450, 451. Roger apparently was concerned that the suit’s shoulders did not have realistic bulk. 448. Putting shoulder pads in his suit would put the shoulders in the way of Patty’s jaw. 452. - The suit’s crotch usually hung loose and low. 450. - Philip Morris did not state that the head, hands, or feet of the suit attached to the torso. Instead, the Dynel fur on the head simply covered the neck area of the torso (see below) and the torso’s arms and legs covered the hands (gloves) and feet (slippers). 450. The fur from the six different pieces could be combed together to hide the individual pieces. 450. The proper way to comb the hair was to “tease it” rather than to comb it down flat. 453. ***** The Head of the Suit ***** Philip Morris stated that: - The head, hands, and feet were made of black latex with Dynel fur glued to them. 449. - The head consisted of two layers of latex sandwiching a layer of foam rubber with Dynel fur glued onto the hood; this hood draped over the neck, shoulders, and sides and back of the head of the person wearing it. 450. - A person wearing the head often reported feeling claustrophobic. 452. - The face had an immovable mouth and simple eye holes. 450. The eye holes did not completely cover the face of the person wearing the suit. 448. - The face of the suit was glued to the hood of the suit. 450. It could have been pulled out and replaced with a different mask. 458. - A person wearing the suit could only turn their head about a quarter of the way around; in order to see behind them, the wearer would have to turn their head, shoulders, and hips. 452. - The mask in the Patterson-Gimlin film is not the suit’s mask. 457. The “mask” used on Patty’s “suit” would have to been adhered directly to the actor’s face with spirit gum. 457. The “mask” looks “really close” to the actor’s face and fits well around the eyes. 458. - Only a professional make-up artist could have made Patty’s “mask” blend into the actor’s face so well and that make-up artist would have had to have been present at the film site. 458. - It appears that Mr. Morris states that Patty’s mask has “age lines.” 459. ***** The Feet and Hands of the Suit ***** Philip Morris stated that: - The head, hands, and feet were made of black latex with Dynel fur glued to them. 449. - The feet were made to fit a size 10 to size 12 shoe and were 14 inches long. 451. - The soles of the feet were made from flat pieces of neoprene cut to the size and shape of the feet and glued to the latex. 449. The neoprene was black. 463. The neoprene attached as soles was about 14 inches long. 451. The neoprene reached from the heel to the toes. 463. Comment: Google states that size 10 shoes are about 10&½ inches long while size 12 shoes are about 11&½ inches long. - The shape of the feet made for his gorilla suit did not match the tracks left by Patty. 451. - The heels of the suit’s feet were square. 456. - He made his feet with and without fur; even the feet with fur were not entirely covered. 463. - The feet in his suits were long so that an actor could put his feet inside; he didn’t know the shoe size of the person buying a suit. 462. - The feet were like slippers and could be stuffed in the front if they were too long. 462. - The feet of his suit were similar to long clown feet in that a person wearing them could not put the ball of their feet down first without stumbling. 452. - The hands of his suit were gloves. 449. They could be screwed on to a stick to make the arms longer. 448.
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Once again, Greg Long’s execrable The Making of Bigfoot[1] is useful because it locks in the statement of a relevant witness. In three separate conversations beginning in November 2003, Philip Morris described in “precise” detail how he made gorilla suits in the 1960s. He was describing the manufacturing process of suits similar to the one pictured at https://bigfootforums.com/topic/144126-19670805-book-roger-patterson-buys-this-exact-gorilla-costume-from-philip-morris/, the “exact type” of suit which he claims to have sold to Roger Patterson. The number following each statement below is the page number of Greg Long's book on which the information appears. I’ve added a few comments for clarification or to provide context; discussion of the import of Mr. Morris’s comments is best included in an appropriate thread elsewhere. ***** General Information and Background ***** Philip Morris stated that: - He was amazed at the extent that Roger Patterson went with the details of Patty’s face (mask) since a person in 1967 could not anticipate the way photos could be analyzed later and also because the film was taken too far away to see details. 457. - He began to make gorilla suits because there were no reasonably priced gorilla suits available in the United States in the late 1950s. 445. - His company made one to three suits a month and the process of making each suit took at least one week. 459; emphasis added. In August 1967 his gorilla suits sold for $335 but he later raised the price to $435. 446. Comment: The December 1967 advertisement provided by Mr. Morris contradicts this statement as it lists the price of a gorilla suit as $435, reduced from $750. 447, 460. - He did not make suits fitted to the buyer; they were one size fits all. 462. He sold Roger Patterson “a standard suit,” which was shipped [from North Carolina] to Roger [in Washington] by parcel post. 446. - He believed that Roger Patterson found the phone number for the Morris Magic Company in an advertisement in Amusement Business magazine. Comment: The December 1967 advertisement provided by Mr. Morris contradicts this statement; it does not include a phone number. 447. - In a follow-up phone call, Roger Patterson requested extra “gorilla fur,” which Mr. Morris apparently sent him for free. 448. Mr. Morris speculated that Roger used this “fur” on a person’s cheeks or to add more fur to the feet and hands. 459. - His suit could be worn by a person up to six feet tall. 451. - He manufactured his gorilla suits from either black or brown Dynel. 447, 449. Dynel is a material consisting of nylon threads driven through a cloth backing; if grouped together tightly enough, the Dynel threads looked like plush fur. 449. - He only used brown Dynel in the 1960s because that color contrasted better against the background typically used in carnival sideshows. 449. - The color of his suits was uniform; there were not any differences or highlights in the fur. 456. - He made a white gorilla suit that was used in the 1971 James Bond film, Diamonds are Forever. 449 Comment: The gorilla in Diamonds are Forever is black, contradicting Mr. Morris’s statement. See the suit at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpCFU_ZBMW8. - He never made suits with female breasts; however, the plastic chest pieces “stuck out several inches. 453. - The latex used for the suit (see below) was normally honeydew colored; black dye had to be added to make it look like a gorilla’s skin. 450. - His gorilla suit consisted of six (6) separate pieces: One head, one torso (the body, arms, and legs), two hands, and two feet. 449. - His gorilla suit weighed twenty to twenty-five pounds. 452. [1] Those who don’t have the book should borrow it from a friend or local library rather than enrich Mr. Long.
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Legend Says Bigfoot Is Still Hidden Somewhere in Illinois - Only In Your State
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According to the book The Making of Bigfoot. On August 16, 2002 Philip Morris first publicly claimed that he sold Roger Patterson the suit that ended up in the Patterson-Gimlin film on WBT-AM radio of Charlotte, North Carolina. Page 443 He. He also stated that he started telling people that the Patterson-Gimlin film was a hoax in the 1980s. Page 453. One friend recalled hearing his claims between 1976 and 1980 (page 454); another recalled that Mr. Morris was presenting lectures on this at magic conferences in May, 2003. Page 453. The earliest printed article including this claim I've found to date is a story about Greg Long's book in the Columbus (GA) Ledger-Enquirer on May 23, 2004.
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New Film Shown at South by South West "Capturing Bigfoot"
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New Film Shown at South by South West "Capturing Bigfoot"
Trogluddite replied to Skinwalker13's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
Don't you give Bob H his eyeball back?! - Yesterday
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They can't even get the state it was taken in correct. And oddly enough, they say that the JACOB'S photos were taken by someone by the name of Wilson. More internet slop.
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Hiker Stumbles Upon Sasquatch in Idaho? KLVI AM 560View the full article
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New Film Shown at South by South West "Capturing Bigfoot"
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The type was the film festival, and then they negotiate with someone like Netflix or Youtube TV or some other streamer. And they sell it and we wait (till October apparently) -
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New Film Shown at South by South West "Capturing Bigfoot"
Backdoc replied to Skinwalker13's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
Where is the Hype? I understand you don't show too much which can be quickly ripped off by the public and the internet. I get it. These guys seem to be using a Blair Witch Project formula trying to build interest on the internet vs maybe more traditional venues. Bigfoot: Here is a promo for the movie Mysterious Monsters (Peter Graves) from 1975. They build the hype without showing too much. They don't even show a stills or video clips of the PGF saving those for people who purchased a ticket. (It's worth a watch for old times' sake. As a kid I can't forget the babysitter on the couch and Bigfoot's arm through the window which never really even happened). The Trial Run movie: I have to believe if this was all it is supposed to be Discover Channel or whatever would buy the film. Maybe these guys just feel they can market it in some other way and cash in easier. I have to wonder in these times if there is much of a way to cash in. For instance, you used to have to actually purchase the magazine to see the Playmate of the Month. Yet as an old guy I don't know all these modern ways theese guys can cash in but I am sure there are many. As for this Trial Run Smoking gun film.... Enough talk let's see it. -
Idaho 1902 - Idaho's Wild Man
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Another story on the topic, published in The Salt Lake Tribune, of Salt Lake City (UT), on January 28, 1902. The best line in the article is how the skaters who returned with weapons "concluded not to bag the game at that time." -
TOWERING SASQUATCH STALKS 12-YEAR-OLD NEAR TOMAHAWK, WISCONSIN | ARCHIVES
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Originally released as Episode 524 of Bigfoot Society on 9/11/24. In 1979, a 12-year-old boy found himself stranded on a lonely road outside Tomahawk, Wisconsin after a stolen junkyard car broke down in the middle of the night. What happened next stayed buried for more than 40 years. As he walked toward town under a bright moon, something massive moved through the swamp beside him. Trees shook. The sounds got closer. Then an enormous figure stepped from the darkness and began pacing him from across the road. For miles. Pete shares one of the most intense encounters ever featured on Bigfoot Society, describing a face-to-face experience with a creature he estimates stood 8 to 9 feet tall. He recalls every detail—the eyes, the hands, the teeth, the body proportions, and the fear that followed him for decades. The story expands into a deeper mystery involving the same remote area of northern Wisconsin. Strange sightings, Dogman reports, unexplained activity around homes, and multiple missing-person cases have all been reported within a small geographic region surrounding Highway O and Bellevue Road. You'll also hear from Rick in Warren County, Ohio, who describes a night filled with precise wood knocks, owl-like vocalizations, and a strange aerial object that appeared above his property. His investigation led him to discover a history of Bigfoot reports in the same area. 📖 Follow Jeremiah's cancer health updates here: https://www.caringbridge.org/site/569ef3d3-68be-11f1-8790-97fdfd2bbc64 🗣️ Share Your Story Had a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience? Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show! 🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube 🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube 💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts! 📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed) 👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share 🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist 🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters 💥 Support the Show & Get Perks ✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member ✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here 📱 Let’s Connect Instagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links) These help support the show at no extra cost to you: Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for less http://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools: Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon ☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here 🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy 📬 Mailing Address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072Listen to the Podcast - Last week
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MYSTERIOUS FOREST VOICES STALK WITNESS IN BRADFORD, PENNSYLVANIA
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Bud grew up in the forests surrounding Bradford, Pennsylvania, where one summer afternoon an earth-shaking scream echoed through a valley and left a lasting impression. Years later, while repeatedly crossing a mountain to visit his girlfriend, he began hearing strange vocalizations that sounded like conversations hidden deep in the woods. As an adult living near Elijah Clark State Park in Georgia, Bud discovered a series of massive footprints near a secluded cove. The tracks were unlike anything he had encountered before, and the reaction from a wildlife officer only deepened the mystery. In this episode, Bud shares decades of experiences spanning Pennsylvania and Georgia, including unexplained screams, possible Sasquatch vocalizations, pine cone throwing incidents, large footprints, nighttime activity around his property, and unusual tree structures found in remote areas. Locations discussed include Bradford, Pennsylvania, the Allegheny National Forest region, Kinzua Viaduct, Elijah Clark State Park, Clark Hill Lake, Lincolnton, Georgia, and North Georgia. If you've ever wondered how a lifetime of seemingly unrelated events can point toward something hidden in the forests, this conversation is one you'll want to hear from beginning to end. 📖 Follow Jeremiah's cancer health updates here: https://www.caringbridge.org/site/569ef3d3-68be-11f1-8790-97fdfd2bbc64 🗣️ Share Your Story Had a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience? Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show! 🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube 🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube 💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts! 📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed) 👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share 🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist 🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters 💥 Support the Show & Get Perks ✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member ✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here 📱 Let’s Connect Instagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links) These help support the show at no extra cost to you: Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for less http://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools: Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon ☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here 🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy 📬 Mailing Address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072Listen to the Podcast -
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Bigfoot DNA could resemble human DNA and be another form of its stealthy nature.
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https://youtube.com/@pawildsbigfootedition?si=nP12IZyJ7R4UJrhz This organization deserves a vote for its localized support.
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Hello. Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Bob and I am 56 years old. I've been interested in Bigfoot since I was a small child. I believe they exist, but wonder why no solid evidence like a boy has never been provided. I do not believe one should be harmed in order to prove that they exist as I feel that they are a species of human, but you'd think that by now one would have wandered into a town or something. I'm also very interested in the PG film. There is a new documentary coming out saying that it proves the film was a hoax. I am withholding judgment until I see it for myself. I really don't see how something created in 67 could stand up to 21st century technology. I'm looking forward to exploring this forum and looking forward to talking with you all.
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Lucky you! what kind of dinosaur print, do you know?
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MASSIVE BIGFOOT TERRORIZES CAMPERS IN EASTERN KENTUCKY
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A campsite in Eastern Kentucky becomes the center of a series of unsettling events when an expedition group reports footsteps circling tents in the middle of the night, loud vocalizations from the darkness, objects being moved around camp, and an onion thrown from the woods that struck a camper hard enough to leave a welt. That encounter is only one of the stories featured in this packed voicemail roundup. Listeners from across North America share firsthand reports including a massive footprint discovered near Icebox Cave in Ohio, chilling tree knocks and screams near California's Upper Cache Creek, a childhood encounter with a small hairy creature in a Tennessee cemetery, a terrifying nighttime experience outside a tent in North Idaho, possible rock-rolling activity along Oregon's Bigfoot Highway, and a thermal sighting of a towering figure in the Blue Ridge Mountains of Georgia. These accounts come from hunters, campers, hikers, outdoorsmen, and everyday people who found themselves face-to-face with something they still struggle to explain. Leave your voicemail here: https://www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com/ 📖 Follow Jeremiah's cancer health updates here: https://www.caringbridge.org/site/569ef3d3-68be-11f1-8790-97fdfd2bbc64 🗣️ Share Your Story Had a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience? Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show! 🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube 🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube 💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts! 📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed) 👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share 🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist 🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters 💥 Support the Show & Get Perks ✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member ✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here 📱 Let’s Connect Instagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links) These help support the show at no extra cost to you: Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for less http://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools: Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon ☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here 🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy 📬 Mailing Address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072Listen to the Podcast -
That guy is everywhere!😶🌫️
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^ At this point, with everything that's going on, that would not surprise me one bit. Lol!
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It was Bob Heironimus.
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Hope everyone is doing well and having a great summer! I have a bunch of pics that I need to catch up with.....here are 3 interesting prints, one guy moving through the creek and his cousin a few million years ago.
