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I thought I'd expand on this a bit: Ascending Mt. McKinley has become a big goal for many mountaineers. It's the tallest mountain in North America, but what makes it particularly dangerous is its high northern latitude in addition to its height. Even in mid-summer, temps in its upper regions remain well below zero and are worsened by the high winds. It was only in recent times that an ascent to the top in winter was achieved. Before that, it was suicide, and it remains near suicide. There have been many deaths there, and they occur every year. The first this year was just the other day. The National Park Service and Army Air Guard got pretty frustrated with the dangerous rescues and body recoveries a couple of decades ago, and since the mountain is in a park, they have the ability to highly regulate climbers. The park service began a bonding requirement some 20-25 years ago. This way the government could recoup some of the costs of all those rescues.
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I had a 25k helicopter bill going from the Colville hospital to the Spokane hospital. I got myself to the Colville hospital by car. Heart attack. We don’t pay the same taxes I guess.
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Here in Alaska, it can go several ways. I've been extracted by emergency. The State Troopers were contacted about me being shot in the wilderness. They contacted a private helicopter EMT firm, perhaps because of the description of my injury (shot in the head). I was billed by the emergency EMT firm, and my health insurance coverage (very reluctantly, and after some coaxing) covered the helicopter and medical issues after the customary deductibles (about $1000). The total bills came to @ $45K (this in 2001). Usually government rescue personnel are sent on attempted ascents of Mt. McKinley that have gone awry, since that's within a national park. A friend broke his back in a snowmobile accident, and the guy who called it in used a radio on an aircraft frequency. He caught an Army Air Guard helicopter in the air, they diverted and picked him up, and delivered him to the hospital.........free of charge. They billed the time to "training exercise". The Coast Guard rarely bills........unless you're an idiot. One guy, on a deer hunt near Juneau, pushed the emergency button on his communications device. When the Coast Guard showed up in a helicopter, he asked if any of them had any cigarettes, that he had run out, and really needed one. He was transported to Juneau and turned over to local police.............
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What do you think of the US Forest Service's view on bigfoot?
Backdoc replied to georgerm's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
What is their position of the US Forrest Service...? The short answer is this: They support things that are proven like wolves and bears. Things that are unproven are just unproven. They can't be expected to have an official position on the subject or any subject that remains unproven. For instance, I doubt they have an official position on ESP or ghosts. I say 'unproven' because that is the general consensus of science. It seems- due to the discovery of Lucy and others- science has moved from 'Bigfoot can't exist' to 'Bigfoot might exist but so far is unproven'. If I went hunting and shot Bigfoot those government forces (US Forrest and so on) would go where the facts take them. 'They' would say Bigfoot exists as soon as they saw the body. They might be a local sheriff, some DNR guy, some US Forrest guy in a fire spotting tower, and 100 reporters who happen upon the story. Someone in government making an April fool's joke about bigfoot doesn't change any position. I really don't think NORAD is trying to support or harm Christmas based on the Santa Tracker on Christmas eve. There are some on the BFF and elsewhere who see the Government as some evil all powerful conspiracy about Bigfoot and about anything else they can image. If you ask those type of people, they will attribute things to the government that take you down quite a bunny trail. This even assumes something and big as the government made up of many layers and employees are all going to move in unison under one group think direction. Not likely. Don't believe me? See how fast they are to down vote me for posting this post. Even during the moon landing times, we had different factions who argued about the very mode we would take to even get to the moon. That is a simple unified goal fully funded and yet the various opinions and growing pains were evident. Those who say the government knows all about Bigfoot being out there and, here is the key, they are keeping it hidden are ones who NEED to have this be the case. They require a certain view of Government who probably that has even more deeper intentions even beyond Bigfoot. Sorry, I can't see it that way at least as it relates to Bigfoot. The answer is Government, or the US Forrest Service probably have people who work in it that believe in Bigfoot and some that don't. Beyond that, they are concerned about Budgets, hunting season, litterbugs and Yogi bear stealing picnic baskets. -
What's the 30K bill about? Here in Canada SAR services are free. Charging for rescue could deter some people from doing so when they should, with possibly deadly consequences.
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What do you think of the US Forest Service's view on bigfoot?
Huntster replied to georgerm's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
I have never seen a Sasquatch, but I did see a footprint trackway. It was there. Others with me saw it. We discussed it. We followed it for a ways. We didn't individually or collectively want to see it. We didn't plan it. It just happened. The foot that made the print was @ 15" long and quite wide, and it was not a. bear print. The area is historical Sasquatch habitat, and still produces reports. I believe it was the print of a Sasquatch. That is all true. I don't expect or demand that the Forest Service do anything about the Sasquatch phenomenon, although I do believe that it's the responsibility of the US Fish and Wildlife Service and the state and province fish and game management authorities to manage wildlife, even if it's human. But I believe they have. I believe that our wildlife management authorities have chosen to ignore and downplay the phenomenon rather than invest in exposing it, especially if they "don't deny that it's possible for the existence of Bigfoot" and there are thousands of reports, including some from law enforcement. And that's fine with me. I approve. I don't want modern man to know of the existence of these creatures. I believe that the best thing for these creatures is to be left alone. And, yes, that's all in my head. That's my opinion. Your opinion is yours, and you're welcome to it. -
What do you think of the US Forest Service's view on bigfoot?
night912 replied to georgerm's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
You're seeing things that you want to see that's actually not there. They clearly stated their position regarding the existence of Bigfoot. Although they deny the existence of Bigfoot, they don't deny that it's possible for the existence of Bigfoot. The discouraging part that you spoke of, is all in your head. -
Can you share your eDNA research.
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Join Curtis Jones as he recounts an unforgettable encounter with Sasquatches in the small town of Yreka, California, back in 1983. Curtis and his identical twin brother, along with other local kids, were playing hide and seek near the Klamath National Forest when they came face-to-face with three mysterious figures. Hear about the eerie details of the encounter, Curtis's ensuing shock, and how this extraordinary experience influenced his life. Curtis’s story not only highlights the area's rich history of Bigfoot sightings but also adds a vivid, personal perspective to the lore. Curtis has recently documented his story in his book 'Not Just Another Bigfoot Encounter,' now available on Amazon. Resources: You can get Curtis' book here - https://amzn.to/3Fexb0h (Amazon affiliate link that helps support the podcast) Sasquatch Summerfest this year, is July 11th through the 12th, 2025. It's going to be fantastic. Listeners, if you're going to go, you can get a two day ticket for the cost of one. If you use the code "BFS" like Bigfoot society and it'll get you some off your cost. Priscilla was a nice enough to provide that for my listeners. So there you go. I look forward to seeing you there. So make sure you head over to www. sasquatchsummerfest. com and pick up your tickets today. If you've had similar encounters or experiences, please reach out to bigfootsociety@gmail.com. Your story could be the next one we feature! 🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1 Want to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety (Use multiple voice mails if needed!) Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38 Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=shared Recommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat ✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety ✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/join Let’s connect: Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/ Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_society Tiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.society Support Bigfoot Society by checking out these businesses and products we use below: Beam (better sleep) https://share.shopbeam.com/hnpc4ype Wildgrain (better bread) https://wildgrain.com/a/refer-a-friend/redeem/6ogi3frocb2zwtbx8gx8lksvnpgb6tnxbhqlhfk2/8487 Goodchop (better meat) https://www.goodchop.com/plans?c=TB1-J803T6DKO&plans_ab=true&utm_campaign=clipboard&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=raf-share-hpt Repurpose.io https://repurpose.io?fpr=28951 Descript (transcription and visual editing) https://get.descript.com/r3bclm1qi6r3 Streamyard (platform for recording) https://streamyard.com/?fpr=bigfootsociety Riverside.fm (platform for recording) https://www.riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_5&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=bigfootsociety Affiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you. My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XY Put some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsociety Pick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdt Send mail here: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072 Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.comListen to the Podcast
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I always carry my Garmin InReach Mini. I know less about it than I ought. That little SOS button does give me peace of mind... if I or someone else was literally at risk of dying. There's a popular hiker out there recently who had to push the button for rescue and now has a $30k bill.
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Ep. 319 - Shelly Covington-Montana Returns!
BFFbot posted a topic in Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo
Cliff Barackman welcomes Texan and 'squatcher Shelly Covington-Montana back to the podcast to give us an update about her field research! Check out a few of the resources Shelly mentioned: Cyber Tracker, Study Sasquatch, and Animals Don't Cover Their Tracks. Start your free online visit with Hims today at http://hims.com/beyond Sign up for our weekly bonus podcast "Beyond Bigfoot & Beyond" and ad-free episodes here: https://www.patreon.com/bigfootandbeyondpodcast Get your official "Bigfoot & Beyond: Enter The Sasquatch" shirt here: https://sasquatchprints.com/product/bigfoot-beyond-enter-the-squatch/Listen to the Podcast -
hi im Jailai i am fromflorida now living in Utah. family had an encounter since then I have always been intrested.
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norseman started following Metaline Falls fest - anyone want a ticket?
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What do you think of the US Forest Service's view on bigfoot?
CelticKevin replied to georgerm's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
Cascade Lakes Hwy is a fair distance from Estacada. Two different FS employees talking two different areas. -
Metaline Falls fest - anyone want a ticket?
norseman replied to Madison5716's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
If anyone goes they should come see me in Newport! I am still healing up from surgery. - Yesterday
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What do you think of the US Forest Service's view on bigfoot?
MIB replied to georgerm's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
Could you clarify location? The Cascade Lakes Highway runs from Highway 97 near Bend, heads west past Mt Bachelor, turns south, and reconnects with highway 58 just west of where 58 meets 97. Estacada is fairly near Portland, a solid 90-95 miles from Cascade Lakes Highway. I'm puzzled by what you are trying to describe. -
Tonight we will be speaking to Austin and his parents Tim and Linda. The family is from Oregon and Tim and Linda both had encounters when they were younger. Austin shares a strange encounter from a lake monster. We will also be speaking to Wyatt. Wyatt had an encounter a year ago with his cousin in Michigan. Happy Fathers Day! Listen to the Podcast
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What do you think of the US Forest Service's view on bigfoot?
CelticKevin replied to georgerm's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
In my profession as a barber, I have talked to many FS workers. They see my collection of Bigfoot stuff at my work station and after a few visits, they tend to broach the subject with me. Most of them work in different departments and don't know each other, but they all agree on one thing: Bigfoot exists. They know the creatures are out there, they know where they are likely to be depending on times of the year, they play it off as a "legend" to curtail economic and regulatory fallout, and some have seen them and would be happy to NOT see them again. As I understand it, witnessing one is nearly a FS rite of passage in the Estacada, Oregon area. I was told that pre-dawn hours and dusk offered a good chance on Cascade Lakes Hwy. And I was told that there was a general "ignore them" rule. You don't bother them, they won't bother you, nobody has to explain or report anything. -
PNWexplorer started following Metaline Falls fest - anyone want a ticket?
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Metaline Falls fest - anyone want a ticket?
PNWexplorer replied to Madison5716's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
I had a friend of mine go today with her husband and kids. She said it was a great time. I would like to go, but am just too busy this weekend with vehicle upgrades. It's still over a 3 hour drive for me, and I am 70 miles South of Spokane. Three hours is on the fence for me. My buddy invited me down to his place in Oregon for the 4th of July and it is a 3.5 hour drive to Elgin. It would be a great time with lots of laughs and whiskey... -
Celena Dunn, a former law enforcement officer from Gadsden, Alabama, shares an extraordinary encounter she had while delivering court documents in Piedmont, Alabama. Located near the Talladega National Forest, Selena's experience involves sighting a massive, mysterious creature along with a smaller, malnourished being. The vivid details of her encounter, the locations involved, and the subsequent validation from the property owner, who has had multiple bizarre experiences, make this a riveting tale. The episode dives into Celena's transformation from skeptic to believer, her efforts to document the encounter, and the broader implications for understanding what's hidden in the Alabama wilderness. Resources: Southern Belle Bigfoot channel - https://www.youtube.com/@SouthernBelleBigfoot6028e Email Celena: cwlenagarrett@gmail.com Sasquatch Summerfest this year, is July 11th through the 12th, 2025. It's going to be fantastic. Listeners, if you're going to go, you can get a two day ticket for the cost of one. If you use the code "BFS" like Bigfoot society and it'll get you some off your cost. Priscilla was a nice enough to provide that for my listeners. So there you go. I look forward to seeing you there. So make sure you head over to www. sasquatchsummerfest. com and pick up your tickets today. If you've had similar encounters or experiences, please reach out to bigfootsociety@gmail.com. Your story could be the next one we feature! 🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1 Want to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety (Use multiple voice mails if needed!) Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38 Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=shared Recommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat ✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety ✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/join Let’s connect: Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/ Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_society Tiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.society Support Bigfoot Society by checking out these businesses and products we use below: Beam (better sleep) https://share.shopbeam.com/hnpc4ype Wildgrain (better bread) https://wildgrain.com/a/refer-a-friend/redeem/6ogi3frocb2zwtbx8gx8lksvnpgb6tnxbhqlhfk2/8487 Goodchop (better meat) https://www.goodchop.com/plans?c=TB1-J803T6DKO&plans_ab=true&utm_campaign=clipboard&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=raf-share-hpt Repurpose.io https://repurpose.io?fpr=28951 Descript (transcription and visual editing) https://get.descript.com/r3bclm1qi6r3 Streamyard (platform for recording) https://streamyard.com/?fpr=bigfootsociety Riverside.fm (platform for recording) https://www.riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_5&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=bigfootsociety Affiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you. My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XY Put some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsociety Pick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdt Send mail here: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072 Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.comListen to the Podcast
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Agree. Agree BUT .. Agree BUT !!!! ... I think the quality and detail of information on the non-forum platforms is somewhat lacking. Or maybe you could say the signal to noise ratio is lower. So while forums may be perceived as old fogey stuff they're still where to go for better quality. The others are fine if you're primarily there for entertainment but if you are trying to do research .. nah.
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Metaline Falls fest - anyone want a ticket?
Madison5716 replied to Madison5716's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
Yeah, it's much closer to the Canadian border than I thought it was. -
Is the Bigfoot Forum losing interest?
georgerm replied to georgerm's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
I tried ChatGPT and it's terribly user unfriendly and would not base any Sasquatch beliefs on it. Sasquatch remains nearly impossible for the average human to detect most likely due to superior intelligence. hearing, eye-sight, nocturnal habits, sense of smell, hiding ability, and ability to leave an area quickly. Experienced woodsmen can detect them by their smell and footprint evidence only when bigfoot wanders out of their inaccessible mountain locations. Hound hunters can track bigfoots but bigfoots are too fast and can leave an area quickly. Miners in southwest Oregon in the 1800's had bigfoot problems and they brought in a hound hunter to track the bigfoot down. The dogs cornered bigfoot in a rocky cliff area near the Sixes River and the best dog was thrown off the cliff and the bigfoot escaped into the steep mountains. Listen to the report here: bigfoot near sixes river oregon - Google Search - Last week
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Is the Bigfoot Forum losing interest?
RedHawk454 replied to georgerm's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
Forums in general are slowly becoming outdated ways of reaching out to people on the internet. While i disagree with it, the traditional vBulletin style of forums is becoming sadly, outdated. Forums reached their zenith in the early to mid 200's but it seems reddit, youtube, and sadly tiktok are replacing forums. -
Is the Bigfoot Forum losing interest?
RedHawk454 replied to georgerm's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
AI cant be held accountable for its words or actions, and it lacks real world experience. I did, however, think it was interesting that it basically said BiGFo0Tery is still around because its somewhat profitable. -
After Two Sasquatch Sightings In Colorado, Boulder County Puts On Bigfoot Hunt Cowboy State DailyView the full article