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Thanks, georgerm. I do try to be civil and Norse has a great deal of pertinent, real life experience and knowledge regarding Science and primate biology. We just have a fundamental difference: kill vs no-kill. (That's been going on for decades. lol) I never meant to hi-jack your thread and I think it's a really good one! I will only add that Monsters, by definition, are imaginary or mythical. I don't really agree with that definition because I think there are definitely Monsters on Earth, but we do need a standard of Semantics (as Norse pointed out) that we can either agree on, or that we are forced to accept either way. Bigfoot are scary, no doubt about that. Humans are very scary too, we are The Alpha predator. We can (and probably should) kill anything that threatens us without cause. But, given a choice not to kill Bigfoot just in order to convince Science (and to convince people who know everything already anyway) seems like the best approach to me.

I have been on my feet for about 18 hours. Very tired. But just some quick thoughts. I feel super strongly that Bigfoot doesn’t deserve to be a mythological monster. It deserves to be a scientific classified species recognized by everyone. It does not take a deceased male and female Bigfoot to prove the species exists. Albeit that would be a slam dunk example. But a Holotype and Allotype will be taken AFTER discovery. Science isn't going to be happy with a pinky bone or a tooth with a living, breathing species. How science comes into possession of type specimens typically is through several different means. The type specimens are already in the museum collection. Type specimens are found in the bush meat trade. Type specimens are found in remote regions of Earth. And rarely type specimens are found in our back yards.

Repairing more dozer line. Got a 1 inch of rain Saturday night. Definitely knocked down the fire. Herd of Mule deer walked right past the Peterbilt today.

Published in the Oregon Journal of Portland (OR) on June 1, 1977. Sounds like a great way to get kids interested in Bigfoot.

As reported in The Midland Reporter-Telegram of Midland (TX) on March 14, 1957, Slick's second expedition took quite some time to actually begin searching. They also survived a bus accident as reported in the Claremore (OK) Daily Progress on March 21, 1957. And the The Webb City (MO) Sentinel stated on March 21, 1957 that the Nepalese government had passed a law prohibiting capture of the yeti.

Published in The Capital Journal of Salem (OR) on October 2, 1978. When I published the earlier newspaper article (from a South Dakota paper) in which researchers called a reported Iowa encounter a hoax, I couldn't find articles about the underlying report. This article came up while searching for incidents in Washington.

Published in The Capital Journal of Salem (OR) on July 22, 1924, this is the supposed explanation for the attack on miners in Ape Canyon.

Oregon's Bigfoot trap remains conspicuously Bigfoot-free Boing BoingView the full article

Wow, xspider1 and Norseman. What a debate that has been civil and neither party has backed down even during the most intense language at proving bigfoot is a real monster. It seems both of you have proved bigfoot is a monster. Seems like most of the audience has backed off while you two have carried on a debate that would heat metal to the bending point. One of the main points that is still not clear is does it take a deceased bigfoot male and female body to prove the existence of bigfoot? Do we agree bigfoot is a real living animal and a new species? Does DNA make the distinction between myth and real living monster? Presently what is the status of bigfoot ............................. myth or monster? Has enough evidence been brought forth for proof of the bigfoot with its own species name? What is the present status of bigfoot? Some claim bigfoot is a myth that can disappear and is abducted by aliens and delivered to Earth's forest.

Included in SASQUATCH/BIGFOOT CHRONICLE & Other Unrecognized Relict Hominoids & Wild Men Earliest Reports to 1899 by Christopher L. Murphy (Unpublished). While this story was published in The Oregon Daily Journal on August 14, 1963, that article does not mention where they located the underlying story.

Sentient AI’s Bigfoot Era Could Arrive at Any Moment GizmodoView the full article

Note: This is the original version of the interview with 8 minutes that were cut for the public. If you like me chit chatting at the beginning then you'll like this. A former MUFON investigator went to Oakridge, Oregon searching for answers. One night outside her cabin, something came out of the darkness and headed straight toward her. In this episode of Bigfoot Society, Patti Valvo shares what happened during an investigation that took her deep into some of the most active and mysterious locations in Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Oregon. Near Oakridge, Patti heard unexplained knocks along the edge of the Willamette National Forest and experienced small objects landing near her as she walked back toward the cabin. Then came the encounter that sent her running—a brilliant ball of light descending near the forest and rapidly closing the distance behind her. Patti also takes us to Sparks Lake, where she documented enormous barefoot impressions near the water, and Waldo Lake, where strange tree formations added another layer to an area already connected to disturbing eyewitness reports. Her journey also includes Area X in Southeast Oklahoma, Board Camp Crystal Mine in Arkansas, a remote property near Lake Thunderbird experiencing unexplained vocalizations and animal activity, and an unsettling discovery beside a creek in an undisclosed location. This is a journey through Bigfoot country with a former UFO investigator who started asking questions about what might be happening in the forests—and found herself experiencing things she still cannot explain. 📖 Follow Jeremiah's cancer health updates here: https://www.caringbridge.org/site/569ef3d3-68be-11f1-8790-97fdfd2bbc64 🗣️ Share Your Story Had a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience? Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show! 🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube 🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube 💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts! 📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed) 👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share 🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist 🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters 💥 Support the Show & Get Perks ✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member ✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here 📱 Let’s Connect Instagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links) These help support the show at no extra cost to you: Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for less http://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools: Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon ☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here 🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy 📬 Mailing Address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072Listen to the Podcast

Cliff Barackman, James "Bobo" Fay, and Matt Pruitt welcome field researcher, historian, and author Daryl Colyer back to the podcast! Daryl discusses his new book Secrets of the Briar Patch: The Everodd and the inspiration for writing it. The quartet then converse about how best to approach the pursuit of sasquatches in the places they might reside! See Cliff and Pruitt at Cryptid Con in Florence, IN, November 21-22! Sign up for our weekly bonus podcast "Beyond Bigfoot & Beyond" and ad-free episodes! Check out the Official "Bigfoot & Beyond" Merchandise Store! Listen to the Podcast

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Published in the Ebensburg (PA) Democrat and Sentinel on September 12, 1860. NOTE: This article was previously included in the post concerning a Windigo in Manitoba.

I have been working on a project called Sasquatch Chronicles Reimagined. I want to test it out on your podcast player. Let me know if the video loads and any feedback you have. I am curious to see if this works. Below is the same episode uploaded to your podcast player. Listen to the Podcast

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Good News! The World's Largest Bigfoot Is Only 60 Miles From Wyoming Cowboy State DailyView the full article

Just got called out to the little giant fire over by Chelan. Take care family!👍🔥

oic Did you notice where your AI bubble asked if you wanted to discuss 'non-lethal naming rules'? Several posts back, you said "No. Extinct species get a pass. Entire species are recognized by just a few bones. But not extant ones. They require two complete skeletons. One male and one female." <I bolded that last part for clarity> So, I took that to mean that you think proof of Sasquatch requires a complete Male and a complete Female skeleton. Personally, I don't like the idea of even implying that. You have somewhat of an authoritative persona here so, there might be a few people who would take that and run with it which could be very unfortunate, in my opinion. I just think that there must be a better way. "I am still waiting for an adequate explanation on your part as to why a “majestic animal” is exempt from scientific study?" I never said anything like that. I said: "Unless there is no other viable option, Bigfoot, Black Widows and many other creatures are just too magnificent to kill, in my opinion." Now, if anyone wants to go out and kill a few billion mosquitoes for Science, I'm all for it.

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Great video—I really appreciate it telling why so many samples are taken. I was privileged to go with a group from Mass. Herpetological Society to see the back storage rooms of reptiles and amphibians at Harvard University’s Zoology Museum. Understanding that scientists and students still use them is fascinating.