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What happens when a Navy veteran and his friends take a late-night drive into the snowy wilderness of Mount Mitchell — and stumble across massive footprints that shouldn’t exist? In this intense and thought-provoking episode, we sit down with Greg Zapp, who shares the story of a spontaneous 1993 trip into the remote North Carolina mountains that turned into a brush with the unexplained. With snow piling up and no one else around for miles, Greg and his friend found themselves face-to-face with 18-inch tracks in untouched snow — and the eerie sense that something was watching from the trees. You’ll hear what happened as they raced back down the mountain, grabbed a camcorder, and returned to document the tracks. You’ll also hear how that night changed Greg’s understanding of the world — and why Mount Mitchell remains one of the East Coast’s best-kept secrets in the world of Sasquatch sightings. This isn’t just a story about what they saw — it’s about what followed them home in memory, and why they can never forget it. Featuring real locations like Buck Creek Campground, Little Switzerland, Fire Tower Road, and the Blue Ridge Parkway — this one will make locals listen twice and skeptics think twice. Resources: BFRO report: https://www.bfro.net/gdb/show_report.asp?id=3339 🎉 Sasquatch Summerfest 2025 Mark your calendars! Sasquatch Summerfest is happening July 11–12, 2025, and it’s going to be epic. Special Offer for Listeners: Get a 2-day ticket for the price of 1 using code BFS (like Bigfoot Society) at checkout. Big thanks to Priscilla for hooking us up! 👉 Grab your tickets now at: www.sasquatchsummerfest.com 🗣️ Share Your Story Had a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience? Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show! 🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube 🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube 💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts! 📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed) 👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share 🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist 🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters 💥 Support the Show & Get Perks ✅ Join the community on Patreon – Become a Member ✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here 📱 Let’s Connect Instagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links) These help support the show at no extra cost to you: Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereGoodchop (Better Meat): Check it OutSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn More🎙️ Podcasting Tools: Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon ☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here 🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy 📬 Mailing Address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072 📧 Business Inquiries: bigfootsociety@gmail.com Listen to the Podcast

Why are they competent? Did they capture the Green River Killer? I am buddies with the USAF officer that flew in the plane that tracked him with FLIR. Have you checked out any GWOT FLIR footage? They are smoking guys in the pitch black! They are absolutely terrifyingly COMPETENT. Are you just throwing darts at the wall? Hoping something sticks? Meldrum’s reputation isn’t being harmed? Have you talked to any scientists lately? How bout you go talk to Saskeptic on the James Randi forum? I have already responded to this…. Yes they ridicule people as tinfoil hat wearing crackpots. How many UFO shows and movies were out there before the government finally admitted that the phenomenon was real? (Like last year) How many MUFON investigators filing tens of thousands of reports? Unlike Bigfoot where you need camping gear and stuff? With UFOs? All you have to do is LOOK UP….. And STILL the government since WW2 made everyone out to be crack pots…. How are you this naive in 2025?🤷‍♂️ It doesn’t have to be a collective effort. BUT IT IS. It’s was posted on the USDA WEBSITE! USFS……a dept of the USDA? Hello? Do you think Billybob the forest service desk clerk did it all on his own? BTW? If Santa Claus was real? You can bet your sweet behind they tracked Santa Claus within 1000 miles of the USA mainland and absolutely positively would have scrambled F 22 raptors up to intercept his gray bearded jolly old soul!💥💥💥 Sorry kids, Xmas is CANCELLED.

Bigfoot could exist AND the government doesn’t know it. Why- if Bigfoot exists -must the government be aware. Why are you so sure “they” are competent ? There is no evidence to support that as it pertains to Bigfoot. “They” have been completely incompetent. Consider… They will destroy people to keep bigfoot secret. How do Meldrum and so many others get to speak all the time. Explain the reasoning. Meldrum’s reputation isn’t being harmed. Its only improving. There’s a Tv show called finding bigfoot. How did it last beyond the first episode let alone multiple seasons? These shows are removing the stigma of claiming a Bigfoot sighting. Why isn’t that government stopping them? A government which knows about Bigfoot has done a bad job silencing people. How did I ever find out about thought by Bill Munns, Daniel Perez, Dr.s Meldrum, bindernagal, nikaris, Grover kranz, and so on? It’s just an April fools joke made by some small person who was in a position to make such a joke. They thought it was funny and probably personally didnt believe in Bigfoot. That doesn’t mean there was some collective effort. Just one person or a small group making a joke. By the way, NORAD is probably not really tracking Santa Claus.

You may not accept it? But if Bigfoot exists? THEY KNOW ABOUT IT. And if they don’t care? Then why the disinformation campaign? Why try to discredit the whole subject? Why USFS Bigfoot April fools jokes? How do you think that makes witnesses feel? Probably about the same as when Project Blue Book showed up at your farm in 1968, listened to your story and then smugly asked you if you had been drinking. You’re trying to find some logical explanation as to why the government isn’t transparent with the American people. Good question! All I can show you is the facts that they are indeed NOT transparent with the American people in multiple subjects. With UFOs being the 800 lbs elephant in the room but there are many others. Any agency that has eyes in the sky. Who looks at hours and hours of Border Patrol and Coast Guard FLIR footage? Military FLIR footage? DEA, FBI, CIA FLIR footage? Your preaching to the choir. The U.S. government is compartmentalized for a REASON. Intelligence flows in and nothing comes out. If the subject of Bigfoot is classified? Then anyone with the appropriate clearance and a need to know basis would be able to access that intelligence. They are they….. Sorry I don’t have a list.

Taking the word paranormal out of it ..just a general FYI

Well….where would I begin. I cannot accept Bigfoot would be so critical in importance to the government on the level of national security issues. Just because the government does this (and I’d say in a justified way) doesn’t mean they would do this on some low level concern like the Bigfoot issue. There are a lot of people and departments to make up “they” “They” don’t respond as a collective. What specific dept of the government is responsible for being “they”? If there was one set of lips it could be that set of lips could lie or tell the truth. Again, our government is millions of lips and various departments moving in all kinds of different directions.

I just grabbed a generic chart on the net to illustrate most don’t believe in Bigfoot. I don’t claim the numbers are right or wrong. Just to illustrate. That’s all. I’ll grab a diff chart next time that is not getting into the term paranormal. Maybe the terms established and not established might be better. Either way I’m guessing whatever the number who believe in Bigfoot its not more than 50% of Americans and probably much lower than 50%.

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That doesn't refute what I said.

Yeah, this was my initial thought. Though it’s not quite as rapid as I tend to hear.

Fair. I totally glossed over that paranormal part. But in rebuttal, I don’t believe ancient civilizations or aliens fall under the paranormal so the entire thing is pretty misleading with such a title.

Two big problems I see with this Bigfoot item. First, it's asked in the context of a paranormal scale, implying that you accept a definition of Bigfoot as paranormal if you agree with the statement. Second, the wording is ambiguous-- is the item saying Bigfoot is a singular creature or a undiscovered species? It's not clear, but to the first point, since its wrapped in a paranormal belief scale the implication is that the item is referring to a singular creature. So if you believe --or even think that it's plausible-- that bigfoot are an undiscovered species and by no means paranormal, you'll probably select a neutral response or disagree. I honestly don't know what that 16% really believes.

I hear wood, like a wood pecker. Not rocks.

If they don’t care? Then why do they run disinformation campaigns? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Blue_Book How did they do it with UFOs? Is if you talk about it as a government employee or a private employee under government oversight (like the FAA)? YOU LOSE YOUR JOB. And your pension. And they ridicule you. If you’re a private citizen? They either threaten you or they ridicule you. So how can you still say they cannot do it? When they DID do it?! For 75 years! 🤷‍♂️ https://www.legion.org/information-center/news/news/2024/november/uap-are-real-congress-pushes-quest-for-transparency-on-ufos Are they lying about Bigfoot? Are their lips moving? But they sure have funny April’s fools jokes!

Yeah, I’m fully on board with you. I believe a government coverup is essentially impossible. Especially a unified one across the world. Someone would have leveraged this knowledge for their own gain by now.

This is the issue: The purposed conspiracy is the essential ingredient for the government to keep Bigfoot quiet. The conspiracy requires this efficient, effective government to 1) know Bigfoot exists 2) suppress 3) and have a severe reason why this suppression is necessary. Whatever this severe reason for secrecy is said to be, I can't understand how this government (who I am told all thinks alike!) has all this power and yet keeps screwing up. This powerful thinking in unison government allowed the PGF out for public viewing all over the country. I don't understand how Jeff Meldrum, Bill Munns, Anna Nikaris, and so on ever were allowed to speak-not just once- but multiple times. Heck Gimlin talks all over the country and no one even stops him. Here is the deal. There are times some things are vital to the government and a secret must be kept. Even with the Manhatton project (Trinity Atomic Bomb) Stalin knew because he had spies:

Question: is anyone else getting a message that "No video with supported format and MIME type found."? Just curious as I would likely listen to this if its there. Could be my computer - who says 1993 technology can't stand the test of time?

The government doesn't care because the problem has been eliminated. See the movie, "The Man who Killed Hitler ... and Bigfoot," with Sam Elliot. I watched that movie with an ample supply of beer and still expected to turn it off an hour into it. The movie was surprisingly good.

This is crazy! Ghosts, aliens, and ancient civilizations I get. But fortune tellers and telekinesis coming ahead of Bigfoot belief is absolutely wild.

It's completely straight forward. The government doesn't care. The government is not some single entity unified in its thinking. They are more dysfunctional than a family planning a thanksgiving dinner. Our government alone (and don't forget about Canada) is made up of 1,000,000s of people with 100,000s of agendas. Their job responsibilities are 1000's of different roles and agenda. At thanksgiving, not everyone likes grandmas stuffing and that's just 12 people at the table to please. How are 100,000s of employees and 100s of departments all going under the same dogsled with one whip? It would be possible some small part of our government might be concerned about some issue (crashed SR 71, Trinity Atomic Bomb explosion, and so on) and try to keep it a secret. But that would be a small SEGMENT of our government. Even IF someone shot and killed Bigfoot the news would spread faster than the ability of the Bigfoot CIA to shut the information down. Finally, any bigfoot interest occurs in the population of science consensus and public opinion in general

I took it as the government doesn’t know because they don’t care. If they actually cared, they’d know about it. Then ended by saying they can either know, don’t know or don’t care. If they do know, it wouldn’t be hidden because it would be too important to varying agencies to do so. So there is no government conspiracy about hiding the existence of Bigfoot. it doesn’t come across as contradictory at all. It seems fair to make the distinction of people within the government, vs departments of government vs the government as an entire entity. Does John Doe with border patrol know due to his own encounter? Highly likely. Does John’s direct boss know? Probably. Does everyone within Congress know and actively choose to suppress the information to every single department unanimously with any dissenters at all? Not likely.

You seem to be making several contradictions? You quoted NorCal asking if the government knows about Bigfoots existence. You answered no. And then proceed to say the government doesn’t care. Which is implying they do know about its existence? And then later you again say the government DOES know about Bigfoot OR doesn’t care? None of these statements are “No, the government does NOT know they exist”. So? Full circle using logic and reasoning? (Paraphrasing you) There is no Bigfoot secret. But they know about Bigfoot or don’t care. My answer: AND YET THEY CONTINUE TO DENY ITS EXISTENCE AND ACTIVELY SEEK TO BELITTLE WITNESSES!!! April fools joke by the government: https://www.usda.gov/about-usda/news/blog/loss-space-threatening-north-american-sasquatch It’s obvious they know about Bigfoot. It’s on their website as a joke! As for why? Why did they operate Project Bluebook? That simply was used to discredit UFO witnesses and give mundane explanations as to what the phenomenon was? Swamp gas? Jupiter? The northern lights? Light houses? We now know that all of that was baloney and the government now admits UFOs are real. My best guess is that the government never wants to admit that it’s not in CONTROL. They didn’t want to admit that something alien was operating in their airspace at will. And they don’t want to admit that there is a semi intelligent ape man living on Federal lands. Not to mention missing persons associated with both phenomenon! What ever the reason is? It’s NOT good enough. And we as citizens should demand to know the TRUTH! And short of that? Go get the PROOF ourselves!

This seems to be a hot topic in the Bigfoot world. The answer depends on what people think of as "The Government" You can predict the answer to your Q when you know some other perspectives on what people think about other topics involving the government. The answer is: NO The government doesn't care. If they had proof of Bigfoot's existence parts of the government would awaken and care only to the extent of their boundaries and mission. For instance, the IRS would still care ZERO while the DNR might create parameters on forbidden hunting. Local sheriffs might have concerns of safety. Biology researchers might concern themselves about what makes a Bigfoot tick. Maybe military contractors try to lean how Bigfoot is so stealthy. Remember that old CIA saying: Two people can keep a secret if one of them is dead. There is no Bigfoot secret. Bigfoot either exist or it does not. if so, some parts of our government either know or don't know or care. If they know, why would that part of government keep it quiet or feel the need to?

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