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Fair enough. I was thinking more about recent reports rather than historical, nearing 100 yrs old, but I should have been more clear - there may be more recent ones that I haven't come across. I agree to a degree. If they exist, there's a chance they could be cannibal sometimes. But assuming that they exist, assuming that they are cannibals and assuming that they are responsible for disappearances that can be explained by mundane, proven existence, is too much for me. I guess I need to see something in these stories that cannot be explained by natural occurrences before considering the unproven. Another point that occurs to me that isn't necessarily relevant to this discussion is - 'what would you consider 'cannibal' for a sasquatch? Chimps eating chimps - cannibal. Humans eating humans - cannibal. Sasquatch theoretically eating humans? Not so clear, given that a cannibal is an animal that consumes the flesh of it's own species.

Howdy all.....some new pics, some interesting impressions, especially the 4th one, and maybe belongs on another forum lol, Dogman, anyone find these? The next 2, I've showed the Cattails in this area over the years, good hairyman snacks, first pic shows after day one of the July floods & then a few days later after a massive flood wave tore through and totally removed the Cattails, amazing power! The last 3 pics, I have showed this small spring fed pool many times, and a good place to find prints, especially during the summer as it stays full, however I have noticed since last Spring there's always a strong musky odor when I go down there, a strange stick structure forming an 'A' as you go down there, and a trail leading away to a thicket area.....and no I ain't going down there, heard a weird growl a few times so no thanks.

Yes, it does. No, that isn't accurate at all. Sasquatches stealing women and children is an old story among the aboriginal people. The story of Muchalat Harry, an indigenous man of the same era as Ostman, also exists. I'm not going to deny that sasquatches are cannibals or not, because I don't know, but chimps and Homo sapiens are (and Neanderthals accused of) ............sometimes. Therefore, I would speculate that if sasquatches exist, they might be cannibals............sometimes. But the kidnappings might happen for other reasons. Ostman himself (I believe) opined that he may have been brought as a suitor for the young female.

Ostman - seems a very far fetched story and not really in line with many if any reports of sasquatch (if they were cannibals, why not eat him but rather sort of befriend him and share his snuff?) Schleyer - I hate to go there again, but is there any evidence for the 'pants standing up, bones in them, but the clothes untouched' narrative other than the thoroughly unreliable Paulides? Genuine question, not trying to be awkward, I've done a bit of research and found only reports (from before the M411 books came out) providing details that make no mention that such bones were found and that specifically state that the pants were ripped and torn. I'm genuinely looking for cases where there's something to them without Paulides' embellishments but they seem very thin on the ground. For instance, the Schleyer case seems to be a case of natural death followed by scavengers, unusual sure, but it happens. It surely depends on how much of the military and agencies' time and how much of the government's trillions are directed towards the pursuit of confirming the existence of Bigfoot. If they directed all their resources towards finding bigfoot, we'd no doubt have a definitive answer in short order, one way or another. However, it probably suits them to leave things as they are, in which case, they wouldn't direct resources that way. I'm not sure if the government would involve themselves in trying to establish the existence of any animal anyway, other than potentially providing research grants (which seem, on the state and federal level, available more for study of already established animals rather than establishing the existence of new species). As I've mentioned before, I don't think anyone could consider the government to 'know' conclusively of bigfoot's existence without a body anyway, in much the same way as science wouldn't consider the species proven without one. pictures, thermals, footprints, anecdotal evidence from individual government employees etc could easily be dismissed as insufficiently conclusive in the same way as they currently are by science generally. I'm not saying that I'm concrete in any of the above opinions, I'm very willing to be proven wrong, how else do we learn and progress. But the above is where I've landed based on my current knowledge and consideration.

The wild man is always an "escaped lunatic." Escaped lunatics are the swamp gas of Bigfoot research. Article published in the Syracuse (NY) Post-Standard on November 18, 1909.

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I did hear that story! 🤣

Did you catch my post somewhere on the forum about the drone flying above my driveway? It was the electric coop flying a lidar drone, collecting pics on vegetation in the right-of-way and easements. I'm really glad I didn't shoot it down (the impulse to do so was strong.........I guess I'm addicted to wing shooting doves too much ). I followed it to the operator and talked to him. It was a very expensive looking drone, and bigger than my impression of it while it was flying.

👍That LiDAR tech is crazy!

Yes. I'm pretty sure they've only just scratched the surface with civilizational archaeology though most of the planet. In the Amazon, they're just beginning to find stuff.

Have you heard about the Lidar studies in the Amazon?

My Daddy grew up in the Louisiana bayou country during the Depression era. He told me that they would take a pirogue into the bayou to catch something to eat, and they would visit with people who lived out there. They spoke their own language, which was a mixture of French, Indian, Spanish, and English. They didn't come out of there. They were semi-feral. We have individuals (not so much tribes) like that in Alaska today. They avoid humanity like the plague. In the U.S., yes. Not so much in the Arctic, the Amazon Basin, or other such areas of the planet.

And most are extinct.

What makes you think there would be a response? The best way to deal with it is ignore it. If it doesn't present an acute problem, why respond at all? As JKH indicates, there are still a number of tribes that exist but are "undocumented". A friend from grade school is elected chief of such a "tribe". They recognize themselves and that's about the end of the story.

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The historical response was to eliminate them, yet tribes without treaties remain, with varying success.

My understanding is that Gimlin had a 30-06, which would offer plenty of power to kill a sasquatch with a single round if it was shot through the boiler room.

If they didn't harm others who passed through the area, I think the government would leave them alone, and keep their existence quiet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncontacted_peoples

What do you think the Federal Government response would be if it knew about a American Indian tribe that had never signed treaties and continued to live in the wild? Separate from the rest of the modern world?

I think the primary law enforcement agency on missing persons is the most local authority, ie county sheriff. In the case of the feds taking a case, it's likely due to evidence that the missing person has crossed state lines, and in that case the agency would be the FBI, not the Park Service or other federal land manager. Thank you. You're catching on (I think........). This is the precise reason why, if sasquatches are of the genus Homo, the government does NOT want them "discovered", because they would have human rights that would complicate a whole bunch more than just federal land management.

Here's a published list of missing persons from the Alaska State Troopers. I don't think this differentiates what lands they became missing from, and I believe that this list is incomplete for many reasons (like the formally missing person is presumed dead). If nobody knows that a person is missing, the person is not legally missing,