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Science needs facts before so called animals like bigfoot are considered to be real or simply proven to exist.
Backdoc replied to georgerm's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
The vids you mentioned are not at all impressive to me. If I'm not impressed as a man who is very interested in the subject (esp. as it relates to the PGF primarily) then how can I expect others to be? I don't. They are not. I am not. Like it or not the level of video offered is going to have to be a home-run level. A double or even a tripple won't do. I understand where you are coming from. I have no idea what a population would be. We would both agree if there were 1 million Bigfoot in an area the sightings are going to be more common than if there are only 10. I'm just a regular joe when it comes to actual outdoor experts or hunting experts. I nearly always defer to them on matters which occur outside my front door. It just seems to me you have two issues here: 1) a NEAR EXTINCT number of Bigfoot and 2) a massive area to populate their small numbers. This supports a saying I read on the BFF years ago: "Bigfoot is like the KGB, you don't find them, they find you" These two factors for me just seem to be the most likely reason to explain rare Bigfoot sightings and the difficulty capturing one in a fumbling cell phone camera. No other reason needed. IF the previous assumption you make are true then it is slightly possible the Government would know. However, they wouldn't know any more than lots of non-government agencies and people. Unless Bigfoot is literally an Alien visitor like ET or some science experiment gone awry, I don't see how Bigfoot would be a threat or concern to our national security. Unless it is 1) highlest level of threat and 2) Proven to exist I still don't understand how that Government left Bob Gimlin alive all these years. Maybe they caused Roger to get ill again but they forgot about Bob. They even forgot to seize the PGF on the 1967/19678 USA tour. Watch out Peter Graves. That Memorial Day footage is out there. Other footage it out there. Many of those people haven't been eliminated either. We can both come up with some hunters-shooting-each-other concerns. I would agree. Beyond that, we just have to disagree to some extent. And yet how few times if ever these entities capture a rare animal and so on. Why didn't the government know where millionaire Balloonist Steve Fassett when down in his ballon crash right away? Government isn't all-knowing but they are still darn impressive with their capabilities and keeping us safe for the most part. Still, it took 5,000 volunteers, dogs, and tech. nearly 1 week to find a lost autistic boy lost in a Virgina state park. Massive private and Government entities and it still took a week in a reasonable limited search area. I see no reason there has to be. We might be reading too much into what we think we know and understand about it. Yet, you could be 100% right. This goes into an area I am not as familiar with on those specifics. On the issue of giant skeletons, the few times I have had discussion with people about them, I have yet to meet one who didn't base their consideration of this issue in a religious context. There are other examples I can think of where religious assumptions or traditional or cultural assumption limit a more objective consideration. There are those who think the Vinland Map is 100% authentic. Some believe this based on their belief such a map probably existed and the Viking got here first. Thus, the map has to be real. While they likely did arrive in 900 or 1000AD, this has no bearing on the map. -
Science needs facts before so called animals like bigfoot are considered to be real or simply proven to exist.
norseman replied to georgerm's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
I can think of many other films besides the PGF. The Freeman footage, the Memorial day footage, Myakka ape photos, heck what about all of Todd Standings footage? There is a mountain of footage out there by amateurs with a camera or now a phone. We are not lacking on footage concerning this subject. Whats fake? Whats not? Thats a different question. But logic dictates that if Bigfoot exists? Then a viable breeding population exists to support these sightings. So then logic also dictates that there is absolutely no way our government doesn’t know about this viable breeding population. We spend 1 trillion dollars a year alone just on defense. Plus every ABC agency that is capable of surveillance on our borders and coastlines. Border Patrol for example. And they are trained to target bipedal figures crossing our borders illegally. They are not going to notice a 8’ Sasquatch crossing the border at night? No way. There has to be sealed vaults of stacks of footage or they are simply destroyed or erased. And then the black hole at the Smithsonian? Any physical evidence found is shipped back there to be never seen again. Look at the Lovelock cave giant’s skeletons. Gone. I am the biggest pro kill proponent you will ever meet. But I am full aware the system is completely rigged against this discovery. For whatever the reason? The federal government has placed a giant thumbs down for disclosure about this subject. Otherwise we would already know about it. - Today
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Science needs facts before so called animals like bigfoot are considered to be real or simply proven to exist.
Backdoc replied to georgerm's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
If we had such a population, we should expect to have a new PGF-level film on a regular basis. These would occur often (more than 1 time in 50 years) by regular people out there with cell phones. Assuming Bigfoot is real, I account for this lack of Patterson-level video by the small number of Bigfoot out there. Bigfoot country makes it harder as well but even in a thick wilderness we can find about anything and film it if there is enough of them. Lack of many new PGF-level films simply supports/reinforces the notion by the scientific community Bigfoot is not likely out there. Deer, Bob Cats, or even the rare Wolverine are caught on video. The more common the animal, the increased ease of capturing it on video. Some parts of our government involved in an area of expertise are generally sitting on their hands until such time they are forced to become reactionary. They are not likely to be pre-emptive. Probably about the same reason about anyone else doesn't know they exist. I was confident- prior to AI fake stuff- if we had a home run clear PGF 2.0 it would prove to most people Bigfoot exists. Now if we had such a film there would be a big "It's got to be fake" feeling out there about Bigfoot or anything else extraordinary. Yet, if we truly had a new, Provable, Home-Run level PGF video or better (and esp. a Body on a slab) Government, non-government and so on would all respond on their own level to these new circumstances. They would react then. Not until then. BTW most people care very little about much outside their own reality until it comes into their life and affects them directly. If CNN, Fox, and so on had 50 reporters with cameras interviewing a hunter who shot a Bigfoot the public would react. Government would react. The public would pressure the government to further act. Science skeptics would react. Some might even apologize to Jeff Meldrum, and so on. Sure, the tree huggers would want Bigfoot protected and some hunter might want to shoot one for their wall but shoot their neighbor by accident. But.... The first thing- Provable Bigfoot-has to occur for any and all those things and more to occur. IF PROOF then REACTION. -
Celebrate Bigfoot Days With Exclusive Clip From New Cryptid Horror SQUATCH - Fangoria
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Celebrate Bigfoot Days With Exclusive Clip From New Cryptid Horror SQUATCH - Yahoo
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What We Saw on Tower Road Still Doesn’t Make Sense! | Washington
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A retired law enforcement officer shares a firsthand encounter from Southwest Washington that has stayed unchanged for over a decade. On a clear July afternoon near Tower Road, outside Toutle and Silver Lake, Casey and his wife both saw a massive, jet-black figure standing just off the road. In the next instant, it crossed the highway with a speed neither of them can explain and disappeared into open terrain where nothing should have been able to hide. This account is detailed, grounded, and witnessed by two people at the same moment. The size, the movement, and the complete lack of trace leave questions that still haven’t been answered. If you’re drawn to real encounters told by credible witnesses, this is one you’ll want to hear all the way through. 🗣️ Share Your Story Had a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience? Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show! 🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube 🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube 💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts! 📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed) 👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share 🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist 🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters 💥 Support the Show & Get Perks ✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member ✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here 📱 Let’s Connect Instagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links) These help support the show at no extra cost to you: Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for less http://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools: Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon ☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here 🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy 📬 Mailing Address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072 Listen to the Podcast -
Science needs facts before so called animals like bigfoot are considered to be real or simply proven to exist.
norseman replied to georgerm's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
If a viable population of Ape men is roaming the hinterlands of north America today? Can you give me any good reasons as to why the federal government wouldn’t know it exists? Why is the Smithsonian exempt from the Indian Graves Act? It’s a simple formula for the government to be clear of conspiracy. Just be transparent. They wont be. - Yesterday
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Florida 1840 - Nest of Unknown Animal Found
Trogluddite posted a topic in More Historical Newspaper Archives
Mentioned in SASQUATCH/BIGFOOT CHRONICLE & Other Unrecognized Relict Hominoids & Wild Men Earliest Reports to 1899 by Christopher L. Murphy (Unpublished), this article is from the Freeman And Messenger of Lodi (NY) and was published on May 7, 1840. . -
New Hampshire 1977 - Hairy Monster Seen Near Hollis Flea Market - John Green, Redbone
Trogluddite posted a topic in More Historical Newspaper Archives
This newspaper article relates to John Green report #992211 and was added to the Forums by Redbone in the Sightings forum. It's added here to increase visibility for people newly interested in Bigfoot who may not know about John Green's database. Bobbi Short's (RIP) Bigfoot Encounters website has additional information under the sightings section; however, I was unable to find any newspaper articles confirming that additional information. Indeed, one of the papers she cited does not appear to be included in the Newspapers.com archives. -
Canada 1938 - Indian Sasquatch Days
Trogluddite posted a topic in More Historical Newspaper Archives
The first article is from The Province of Vancouver (BC) on April 21, 1938; the advertisement is from The Chilliwack (BC) Progress on May 18, 1938. -
Science needs facts before so called animals like bigfoot are considered to be real or simply proven to exist.
Huntster replied to georgerm's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
Your horse is not dead, it lives in myth. And it's not a horse. It's a unicorn, which doesn't exist. If it was a horse, people would petition for it to be saved. Since it's a unicorn, and everybody knows that unicorns don't exist, nobody knows or cares about it. -
Science needs facts before so called animals like bigfoot are considered to be real or simply proven to exist.
Silverback Sax replied to georgerm's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
Dead horse at the ready. Allow the beating to commence... -
Alabama-born ‘Baywatch’ icon’s new YouTube series might surprise you - AL.com
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Science needs facts before so called animals like bigfoot are considered to be real or simply proven to exist.
Huntster replied to georgerm's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Forest_Service The department has existed at least as a management agency for 150 years. How long has the department have timber cruisers out running around in virgin, old growth forests in primary Sasquatch habitat in the Pacific Northwest where they would run across sasquatch footprints, howls, sightings, etc? The earliest references to "rangers" and government timber sales surveys are right about the turn of the 20th century (or about 120 years). But there is an even more critical example of government knowing about sasquatchery: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Lewis_(Washington) From the beginning of the existence of Ft. Lewis (109 years ago), situated in prime sasquatch territory and in Pierce County, WA, which features one of the highest densities of sasquatch reports in the nation, there have been soldiers (thousands of them) running around, camping, conducting nighttime training, and generally living in the woods there. There is absolutely, positively no way (no how) that sasquatch reports have not been regularly reported to the post commanders (and thus to commanding generals, almost certainly "unofficially") over the past 109 years. If sasquatches exist (or existed), Pierce County WA was one of the most densely inhabited areas of their range (according to report densities), and the Army knew it. Guaranteed. The Army operates (and always has, since before the founding of our nation and when it was under the Union Jack) under a "need to know" basis. It's institutional. No, every soldier in the Army, or even every soldier who was posted at Ft. Lewis doesn't know, so the "conspiracy" isn't "giant". I know of few to no reports of thunderbirds, and such reports would likely be most interesting to the USFWS, not the USFS. Currently, there is quite a big issue with giant snakes in Florida, and the reason why the USFS is not directly involved with it is because the USFS isn't managing forests there, but the USFWS and NPS are deeply involved, and there is no secrecy because every agency involved (both state and federal) have determined that killing the snakes are in the best interests of everybody, so they encourage that. If the USFS and Army determined that the killing of sasquatches was desired, I can assure you that they'd let you know about them..........and my suspicion is that they keep their existence completely unofficial specifically in order to discourage the harassment, disturbing, hunting, bothering, and killing of sasquatches to a minimum. The best way to do that with the public is to keep them a myth. That was incredibly easy to do prior to 1967. The PGF made it a bit more difficult. So, essentially, sasquatches have been publicly "out-of-the-bag" for 59 years. One doesn't keep secrets by recording them on paper..........or now in emails, even if you hide them in your bathroom at home. These kinds of secrets are word of mouth, and kept among few trusted persons. -
Seems to me that if DNA can ascertain what it is not, it can ascertain that something else is out there. But, as usual, and like everything else, DNA is used for what the powerful want it to be used...........and not to be used for what they don't want it used for.....................
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Science needs facts before so called animals like bigfoot are considered to be real or simply proven to exist.
georgerm replied to georgerm's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
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In this episode, we dive into the experiences of Ryan Reading, a longtime researcher from Western New York who has spent over 15 years tracking, observing, and documenting Bigfoot activity in one of the most active regions in the Northeast. Ryan shares the moment that started it all—a close encounter with a juvenile figure at an old homestead—and how that experience led to years of consistent fieldwork across remote forests, trail systems, and hidden corridors deep in New York wilderness. What followed were repeated sightings, including a massive 9-foot presence witnessed with another person, along with footprint casts, trail camera captures, and audio recordings collected through disciplined, boots-on-the-ground research. Throughout the conversation, Ryan explains how he mapped movement patterns, identified travel routes, and used habituation techniques to increase the chances of interaction. He walks through the strategy behind some of the most compelling images and video he’s captured, offering insight into how these encounters happen and what keeps them just out of reach. This episode also explores the intensity that comes with long-term exposure to the unknown. The experiences shared here go beyond brief sightings, revealing what it’s like to stay in the field day after day, pushing deeper into areas where activity continues to unfold. If you’re interested in firsthand accounts, documented evidence, and a deeper look at how serious Bigfoot research is actually conducted, this is an episode you don’t want to miss. Resources: Ryan’s books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/stores/R-READING/author/B0FCDB9M49 https://www.amazon.com/CHALLENGE-YOUR-INTERPRETATIONS-RYAN-READING-ebook/dp/B0GG5C5LZG Ryan Reading on Soundcloud - https://soundcloud.com/ryan-reading-545925788 Man Beast of Western New York documentary - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXtay1opxm4 Ryan’s Youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@WesternNyBigfoot/videos Contact Ryan here: ryan_reading@yahoo.com 🗣️ Share Your Story Had a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience? Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show! 🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube 🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube 💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts! 📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed) 👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share 🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist 🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters 💥 Support the Show & Get Perks ✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member ✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here 📱 Let’s Connect Instagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links) These help support the show at no extra cost to you: Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for less http://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools: Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon ☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here 🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy 📬 Mailing Address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072Listen to the Podcast
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Ep. 363 - Lyle Blackburn's Terrifying Encounters!
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Cliff Barackman and James "Bobo" Fay welcome Lyle Blackburn back to the podcast for his fifth appearance! Lyle just released Terrifying Encounters, a new book detailing eyewitness reports of various cryptids! Check out Lyle's work and his upcoming appearance schedule HERE! See Cliff and Lyle at the Great Florida Bigfoot Conference in Ocala, FL, on June 13th! See Pruitt at the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot Festival in Townsend, TN, on May 2nd! Get Tickets for the Alaska Bigfoot Cruise (September 11-18) featuring Pruitt! Sign up for our weekly bonus podcast "Beyond Bigfoot & Beyond" and ad-free episodes! Get your official "Bigfoot & Beyond: Enter The Sasquatch" shirt! Listen to the Podcast -
A broken bone is universally understood on an X-ray. Until the DNA results for Bigfoot could be universally understood and agreed to, it almost seems like a useless tool. Useful for paternity and so ion but surprisingly limited for Bigfoot study.
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Science needs facts before so called animals like bigfoot are considered to be real or simply proven to exist.
Backdoc replied to georgerm's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
There are some who view the government as all powerful involved in each and every conspiracy. This thinking virtually demands somehow the “Forrest service” knows all about Bigfoot and is keeping it quiet. Those who believe this may offer reasonable ideas such as lying to keep people from shooting each other. Then there are the “ Jump the shark” ideas. Use your imagination. The truth is likely the forrest service just adopts the view of science itself. That is, Bigfoot is just not proven to exist. Such a viewpoint is not controversial and requires no special power or giant government conspiracy. on top of that I really doubt the forrest service has an official position on many subjects. The thunderbird, giant snakes, and so on. They would just correctly reiterate the present general consensus of science. where does one go to get an official position? Is there a book of official positions in the congressional record or something? - Last week
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Why the FBI Secretly Investigated Bigfoot—and the Brutal Truth They Found - Popular Mechanics
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Just makes you wonder if they have other files as well... -
I'm sure @Darby Orcutt would be happy to send you a prepaid mailer! Good luck!
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Why the FBI Secretly Investigated Bigfoot—and the Brutal Truth They Found - AOL.com
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