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I kinda just want to go and meet the guy, I'll bet he's a hoot, but it ends Monday and too much junk between now and then go get done to take a day to drive to Syracuse...

What was the only lead? Harold Key reported a scream and a mangy human carrying something through the woods. 5 - 7 miles away from the point of disappearance. The FBI dismissed this report. My theory is that we are dealing with something akin to the Kari Swenson story, or a Claude Dallas type.

Thanks for the reply. I hate to not reply fully but there’s something I wanted to quickly check. - you say the green berets were there because of a threat but what threat specifically do you believe was there? Any sources for those threats would be great. any sources for the green berets being armed above and beyond the rangers? I’ve read (but can’t confirm without diving deep back in) that it was sidearms identical to nps rangers

Millville, NJ - German immigrant captured after living as a "wild man" for two years. Published in the York (PA) Dispatch on July 25, 1906.

Another incident where the "wild man" is clearly just a man. Hopefully making such cases available will let serious Bigfoot researchers smoke out fake internet stories trying to pass such things of as an actual Bigfoot. These events took place near Tennallytown, Maryland and the stories were published in the Washington (D.C.) Post on July 22 and July 26, 1894 respectfully.

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Firefighters were apart of the SARS mission. It’s relevant to me because I never had Green Berets ever show up to ANY emergency I was dispatched to in 17 years. It’s not my evaluation. Thats the FBI’s evaluation. He was not kidnapped. (My opinion was that he was kidnapped. But not by someone who operates conventionally) It is in the report that Green Berets kept adding to their numbers. Which seems odd if they were “just in the area”. And it’s amazing to me that they haven’t been “available” since that specific search. They are constantly training out of Ft. Bragg. How many missing people are there in the SE US? Yes, It’s odd. Why would you include armed soldiers in a SAR search? Because you need shooters. There is a threat. If Dennis was just lost? And as many people searched for him? They would have found him. Maybe they would not have found him alive, but they would have found his body.

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Thank you for your reply Firefighting is a noble career and I'm sure that you've made a lot of people's lives better and safer, but I don't see how that's relevant to this particular discussion. I should say, I'm from the UK and nothing in our fire service's experience would necessarily be relevant but I accept that your services are different so I may be wrong. You seem to accept that there wasn't a kidnapping ( I say "seem" because it looks like your paragraph may be a case of "even if you accept this is true, how do you explain this?" and I don't want to put words in your mouth or suggest you accept/concede something that you don't). That said, I disagree completely with your evaluation. You say 'you're telling me there is nothing strange about 1000s of people searching for a 5 year old boy that had a five minute head start and cannot find him?' but that's not what happened. He went missing at 4:30pm. His father and a few other people started searching for him within 3-5 minutes (the details are sketchy). They were searching in terrain that, outside the field and off the trail, which is the terrain he went missing, is reported as being dense forest ('so thick is the green growth of trees that a squirrel could go from Gatlinburg to Cherokee, N.C some 30 miles over the mountain, without ever having to touch ground' - The Tennessean 6.20.1969), ('[Dennis] became separated after plunging into the thick tangle of forest and underbrush, home of black bears, wild hogs, and snakes' - Kingsport Times 6.16.1969) He wasn't reported missing to the Rangers for 4 hours, at 8:28pm. Some few people (no reports I have found state a firm number) searched during the night, during which there was significant rainfall. The first actual, co-ordinated search started at 5am the next day. According to the NPS report, this consisted of somewhere between 50 and 80 people (it's not clear whether 'leaders' were included in the count of searchers or were additional). In any event, some 12+ hours after he went missing, fewer than 100 people were looking for him (assume the higher number of 80 and add in family, who let's assume weren't counted as 'searchers' by the NPS). This is a million miles away from 1000s looking for him within 5 minutes. Assume he could move a conservative 1mph, over 12 hours, that would give a potential search area of 452m2. Slightly smaller than Los Angeles City limits, but covered in dense forest, rivers, caves and crevices. It would be a minor miracle if they did find him! The number of searchers for 6.16.1969 was approx 300, 6.17.1969 was 365 etc. The only day over 1,000 was 6.21.1969, a full week after his disappearance. As for the Green Berets - from the NPS report '[Ranger Mike] Myers also contacted U.S. Forest Service District Ranger on the Nantahala, who in turn made contact with Col. Kinney, commanding the Special Forces troops in that area. Col. Kinney requested and obtained permission from the Third Army Headquarters at Ft Benning, Georgia, to transfer 40 Special Forces to the search area. - 6.15.1969 I can't see anything suggesting that the Green Berets 'kept adding to their force.' They seem to have added 22 men on 6.18.1969, although I admit the seem to have had 71 by 6.25.1969 33 left the search on 6.25.1969 with the remaining 38 leaving the next day. It is mentioned in the NPS report and news papers that they were 'in the area' and familiar with the type of terrain in the area due to having been deployed in Vietnam. I understand that Green Berets don't get involved in SAR on a regular basis, but if they're available, and if this, as was obviously the case, caught the public imagination, why not? Are you willing to suggest why you think the Green Berets were involved? Absent another, better, theory, I don't see why the logical reason put forth shouldn't be accepted.

I don't "know" anything. I am open minded and have formed my opinion based on the account of thousands of others personal accounts.

I have experienced the woo traits of bigfoot. Can you explain what you know?

As a firefighter of 17 years? I can read this report and see a lot of weird stuff in it. https://www.nps.gov/aboutus/foia/upload/1969_GRSM_DennisMartin_dissapearance_REDACTED.pdf https://vault.fbi.gov/dennis-martin/Dennis Martin Part 01 (Final)/view The FBI never called it a kidnapping. There was no evidence for it. Meaning there was no evidence a adult human packed Dennis out of the park. So that means according to the FBI that Dennis was still lost in the park. So you’re telling me there is nothing strange about 1000s of people searching for a 5 year old boy that had a five minute head start and cannot find him? Also notice that the Green Berets kept adding to their force. This wasn’t just a group that happened to be in the area. And when do Green Berets do civilian SAR missions anyhow?

This looks like an AP or UPI story as I found this clipping in the Carroll County (MD) Times, published on April 14, 1982. The "Victim of Rooftop Murders" does not relate to this picture but I leave such snippets in because it demonstrates that newspapers were placing Wild Man/Bigfoot/Sasquatch stories with the other serious news stories. While searching the Forums for other stuff, I found one of Tirademan's original clippings. Surprisingly, Mullens not only claimed to have faked footprints, he claimed to have faked the Ape Canyon attack.

Published in the Carroll County (MD) Times on August 9, 1986, this article looks back to encounters around Sykesville, Maryland in 1973. Mark Opsanik, another early researcher on the east coast and whose name can be found in John Green's database, is mentioned.

Published in the Frederick (MD) News on December 11, 1901.

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It wouldn't apply at all as long as you stick to the unclassified north american forest ape story. I don't believe that describes what we refer to as sasquatch. My view on the subject is considered "woo". Whatever! I don't need anyone to validate my point of view. Proof? Ain't got none! It's just what I believe. I also believe that taking ones life will neither prove existence or move the subject forward. Why? Because our leaders don't want us to know.

You make a good point. If the forest service employees are encouraged or ordered to report their sightings then those who oversee the forest service could begin to protect bigfoot from harm and keep logging at its present rate.

Paul Freeman, a Forest Service employee reported that he saw a bigfoot in the Umatilla National Forest, and he took a video of it. He also took many plaster casts. Bing Videos Jan 19, 2018 · Nearly three decades later, a U.S. Forest Service employee, Paul Freeman, recorded what he claims to be Bigfoot walking through the Umatilla Forest in Northeastern Oregon, …forest service biologist sees bigfoot - Search It's my logical opinion that there have been many more sightings by forest service employees but they are forced to keep quiet due to threats of job loss. The U.S. Forest Service has approximately 27,062 permanent, full-time employees as of September 2018, which includes biologists among other professionals. However, specific counts for the number of biologists within the Forest Service are not provided in the available Let's estimate how many forest service employees are working full time and who drive around the forest every day and all day as part of their job. There might be 10,000 employees driving the back roads of the forest. How many of them have reported seeing a bigfoot. The answer is one. Why only one? My assumption is there are probably many more sightings, but these bigfoot reports are not reported to the public since logging could be shut down because bigfoot would probably need its habitat protected. Bigfoot roams all parts of the national forest, and the forest service fears it might be classified as an endangered species. This is an unwarranted fear because in my opinion bigfoot survives perfectly fine with sustained yield clear cut logging. Can you answer why this is true?

But Paulides is (as far as I know and I’m trying to find his own words to make sure) the only source of anything weird What do you consider an “eye opener”? This case seems to be held up as the flagship m411 case but there’s nothing to it as far as I can see from my own investigation

As i’ve said on a parallel thread, unless the government or forest service have a body, they won’t acknowledge anything, and why would they? I wouldn’t expect them to go beyond science and no doubt it suits them not to.

As calculated by the U.S. Naval Observatory's Astronomical Applications Department. For those unfamiliar with "civil twilight," this is the time where there's usable sunlight, which begins before the sun actually rises and ends after the sun actually sets. UPDATE at 4:12 PM: I went back and had the computer recalculate using the lat/long for the encounter site rather than for Eureka, which was the closest location that was available. Additionally, after confirming on the Time and Date website that Daylight Saving Time was not in effect on 20 October 1967, I looked and found a box to check that I had not noticed when I first ran the data. Therefore this calculation does not include the switch to Daylight Saving Time.

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Tirademan found a book by this name, but I have no idea if this is the same one. Published in the Belleville (IL) News-Democrat on December 08, 1970, this is one of the latest articles or advertisements I found. A Minnesota TV station aired the drama Wiley and the Hairy Man in 1948 and a 1949 article from Michigan tells how a sculptor was inspired by a book of the same title about "an Alabama boy and his mother who outwitted the devil on three occasions." In 1953, a Wisconsin high school student won a forensic contest for his "humorous declamation" of the same name.