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George Haas (RIP) was one of the founders of what may have been the very first Bigfoot research organization or group in the United States, the Bay Area Group. Haas's research notes were saved from obscurity by Daniel Perez, who now possesses many of the Bay Area Group's original documents. Haas and several others visited the Patterson-Gimlin film site in June, 1968. Prepared less than a year after the original encounter, Haas's notes are an invaluable source of information on the general conditions at the site as it existed reasonably close to the time of the encounter. His notes are included in Bigfoot at Bluff Creek: A Pictorial Discussion by Daniel Perez at pp. 6-18. For information on George Haas and the Bay area group, see https://bigfootforums.com/forum/200-the-bay-area-group-bigfoot-bulletin/. To see where you can buy the book, visit the Bigfoot Forums Marketplace at https://bigfootforums.com/forum/50-the-bff-marketplace/.

I was just listening to episode 180 of Bigfoot & Beyond. Can't give you a time mark as I was otherwise engaged, but the guest, Joe Perdue, discusses being an employee of a West Virginia government agency (probably state parks or DEC) and discusses his supervisors' reaction too, and limitations on, Bigfooting on the job. Basically, he could not initiate any Bigfoot discussions and if sightings were reported to him, he could take the reports for his own personal use, but they didn't want them as official records, such as injury reports at the park, bear sightings, etc.

If we had that home-run video footage it still might not be the earthquake shift I would hope it to be. I fit into the category of "undecided lean real" Bigfoot status. I call it addition by subtraction. That is, I do not know if Bigfoot exists or not. But those who are skeptics have done such a poor job proving the PGF is a hoax it makes me lean toward it being real. If Roger Patterson was on trial for the PGF being a hoax, I would say there is not any evidence offered to convict him. This suggests the PGF must be real. Yet, IF there was some home-run recreation I would go where the facts take me and say, "Yep, it's probably fake" Absent that, it suggests the opposite. If I can't be 100% convinced (!) and I have a big intertest in the PGF, I don't expect this skeptic to be. I just want to know the truth. Then, I can move on to the next mystery.

^^ I hope everyone reads the article. I played "journalist" with that one and used a provocative statement out of context. But one has to read most of the article to see actually who said it and why. That being said, after listening to Mr. Gimlin during several interviews, I have little to no doubt about his integrity but some doubt about the accuracy of his recollection. I thought someone gave me an atta'boy for finding a hard to find article; now I wonder if they gave it to me for shading Mr. Gimlin.

I sat across a table from Bob for several hours a few years ago, along with a number of local researchers, at the Sasquatch Inn, near Harrison, B.C. My take on him is that he is the real deal, an honest to God cowboy, who tells the truth with no embellishment. I'd ride into the mountains with him any day.

Addendum: I contend that the above is precisely what most in authority or even individual power believe, even within the private sasquatch movement. With government, I believe they have come to recognize that the best policy is to keep sasquatchery in the realm of myth. It is certainly best for the sasquatches, it is the easiest and least expensive policy for government, and it's even easiest and best for the public. Those sasquatch research groups supposedly having regular contact with sasquatches maintain a marvelous level of informational security for the same reasons.

The goal isn't to convince more people on the street that sasquatches exist. The goal is to convince more scientists and authorities that they need to get with the program to study/confirm the phenomenon. I suppose the argument that "better footage" can accomplish that, but I again posit that if the PGF, combined with the events in Six Rivers National Forest circa 1955-1967 couldn't do it (or even elicit a single official statement from the USFS), more video isn't likely to get it done. We can all bandy beliefs on this and other such forums until the proverbial logging truck (an increasingly rare critter itself these days) provides a carcass, or the community can cooperate in obtaining a carcass itself. And I again posit that the very first act in acquiring said carcass is to apply for a hunting license and harvest permit with both a (or some) state wildlife management agencies and with the USFS, who owns the huge parcels most likely to be the hunting grounds. And, again, just the act of applying for such a permit from said agencies in itself would be a significant enlightenment for the community. How will said agencies react? They will almost certainly refuse such a permit, but what will their reason(s) be? As a sidenote, we've had about 25 years of a growing game cam presence in the woods, and from that has come quite a few supposed sasquatch pics. None have moved the meter (even though several have provided fodder for internet discussion). I've used a game cam myself in my bear baiting hunts for every bit of those 25 years, and have captured many pics of bears, moose, birds, people,........and even a wolverine. But not a hint of a sasquatch (no wolves yet, either............hmmmmmm........I wonder if wolves exist in Alaska?)

Surprisingly, I didn't find any topics on the Jersey Devil although he regularly pops up, then disappears, in different threads. This article was published in The Capital (Annapolis, MD) on June 24, 1987.

That is everyone's preference. No doubt a body on a slab is proof and proably the only proof science will accept. Clearly until there is a body on a slab (or in a cage) ALL the public will not be convinced. Back in 1967 the ability to film Bigfoot, a Wolverine, or whatever was limited to the camera/ tech available. All I am getting at is the modern reality where everyone is armed with a cell phone. This would make it much easier to have better video footage of a Bigfoot vs the encounter in 1967. I think we can dream up some hypothetical scenario where the cell phone is a game changer for most people. Consider an exact PGF encounter today if the PGF happened today. Roger and Bob both have cell phone (or better yet a GOPRO) Roger and Bob could come around the bend and have Patty on a cell phone feed with Roger running after Patty. Gimlin might even pull his out which includes video of Roger filming Patty. After the event, they would be able to film endlessly the trackway. There would be commentary and probably a few, "Holy ___ " comments along the way. We would have audio. They probably would document every step and event any phone call made. There might only be 90 seconds of Patty but supporting evidence would be fully documented. This is they kind of difference I say technology would make. By this I use the metaphor of a cell phone. If the moon landing is not enough to convince ALL viewers I don't expect a great modern video to convince all viewers. But a home run video would convince a high percentage. I even think it would shift any Paradym from, "Bigfoot is not proven to exist" For consideration here is video of a dad and daughter getting a 1 in a million video of a wolverine in Yellowstone. Note the similarities to the PGF right down to the animal trotting away:

From Outside Online, July 2016. It's a long article; the full .pdf is attached. The Outside Online website at https://www.outsideonline.com/featured offers good information on a variety of outdoor activities. Who knows, they may even have more Bigfoot articles. 2016 Outside Online Article.pdf

This article was published in 1974 in the Bel Air (MD) Aegis, but the primary story occurred in 1971. Bob Chance, the teacher interviewed, was an early researcher on the east coast. His name can be found in John Green's database and other historic newspaper articles.

What happens when a young girl’s summer afternoon turns into a stand-off with something that shouldn’t exist — right at the edge of the New Jersey Pine Barrens? In this chilling episode, Star recounts the summer day in the early ’90s when she and her mother stood frozen at the window, watching a massive, dark-haired figure pace back and forth behind the backyard pool fence — for nearly an hour. You’ll hear about the uneasy feeling of being watched from the treeline, strange lights streaking across the night sky, and a mysterious elderly couple living deep in the woods who claimed to have fled Germany after the war. From near-death experiences to unexplained phenomena, this is one Pine Barrens encounter you won’t forget. 🗣️ Share Your Story Had a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience? Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show! 🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube 🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube 💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts! 📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed) 👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share 🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist 🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters 💥 Support the Show & Get Perks ✅ Join the community on Patreon – Become a Member ✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here 📱 Let’s Connect Instagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links) These help support the show at no extra cost to you: Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for less http://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools: Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon ☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here 🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy 📬 Mailing Address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072 📧 Business Inquiries: bigfootsociety@gmail.comListen to the Podcast

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Published in a Pittsburgh paper.

Strange story - a member of a hunting party kidnapped by a talking wild man, his wife, and child - all three of whom were fur-covered. I'll add the provenance when I find it again.

John Green (RIP) is one of the four horsemen of Bigfoot/Sasquatch research. According to Daniel Perez in Bigfoot at Bluff Creek: A Pictorial Discussion, p.23, Bob Gimlin answered a questionnaire concerning this encounter in 1970. In addition, John Green had been to the site of Roger and John's encounter and had interviewed Bob Gimlin in 1992. John Green incorporated all of this information into his massive database of Bigfoot/Sasquatch encounter reports which he had collected. The most historic encounter in Bigfoot history is #1000377. Forum member Redbone has entered the Roger and Bob's encounter into the Forum's Standardized Sighting Record (SSR) at https://bigfootforums.com/topic/67573-california-del-norte-county-oct-1967-record-1000377-pgf/#comment-1041415. Former Forum member hiflier reached out to John Green before the latter's death and obtained a copy of John Green's database and permission to make it readable to modern computer programs. A copy of John Green's full database as obtained by hiflier is at https://bigfootforums.com/topic/48732-john-greens-sasquatch-database/.

Bigfoot The topic of this thread is: what do you think of the US Forest Service's view on Sasquatch? The Forest Service's own opinion as of this year is as follows: "The US Forest Service's official stance on Bigfoot is that it's a creature of folklore and urban legend, though they have engaged in some playful acknowledgements of the creature." 1/4 of a billion acres is managed by the Forest Service and the Bureau of Land Management and what is their main duty? Their duty is to insure that we have a "sustained yield" of lumber trees. What's that? If it takes a Douglas Fir trees 30 years to grow to a profitable crop then cut 1/30th of your land per year and replant each year. The Forest Service's job is to sustain wildlife. Could we have the Forest Service managers more out of touch with the reality of Sasquatch when Sasquatch reports pour in from all parts of the country along with mysterious disappearances of hikers. This is the topic so please refrain from derailing it or simply start your own topic. What is your viewpoint? If the Forest Service admitted that they know all about Sasquatch, would this close down most logging? Does sustained yield logging harm or help Sasquatch? Could the Forest bring in revenue for creating bigfoot parks and selling true life proven Bigfoot books written by their wildlife biologist. The national forest lands that are composed of 245 million acres of land mostly dedicated to commercial forest, grazing, grazing and wildlife preservation. As Norseman stated most of the lumber mills in his area have closed and the same here in Coos Bay, Oregon. Maybe someone can start a new topic on this dilemma. Forest Service incognito posters reply at will. Norseman can you please deal with chronic topic derailers?

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According to Bobbie Short's (RIP) website, Bigfoot Encounters, John Green's interviewed Bob Gimlin on March 29, 1992. The interview, which was videotaped, lasted more than an hour. Bobbie Short credits Peter Guttilla with alerting her to the existence of the videotaped interview and it appears that she actually viewed the videotape itself. However, it is not clear who prepared the transcript. There are multiple YouTube videos of people re-creating this interview but I have been unable to identify any that are a digitized version of the actual interview itself. The transcript can be found at http://www.bigfootencounters.com/, then click on the "Interviews" tab.

This is a classic, mentioned many times in the Forums and highlighted by Norseman at https://bigfootforums.com/topic/62420-the-bauman-story/#comment-1020163. I'm sure that there are more threads about. These pages are from the 1893 edition of Teddy Roosevelt's The Wilderness Hunter, which I have as an Adobe Acrobat file. The book is likely available as an e-book as well.

In 1968, Stan Peters, the host of a British Columbia radio station show called Between Ourselves, interviewed Roger Patterson and discussed the P-G- film. The Sasquatch Archives, by Todd Prescott, once again provides this invaluable historic material. A transcript of the show is attached. Transcript 1971 Patterson Peters Interview.docx

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What happens when a quiet weekend in Missouri turns into a chilling encounter with two creatures that shouldn’t exist? In this gripping and recent episode, we hear from James, a listener from the Ozarks who recounts a string of intense encounters — from eerie owl mimicry and bone-rattling whoops in the night, to the day he and his girlfriend saw two humanlike figures wading through Fellows Lake… and vanish right before their eyes. You’ll hear stories from the Mark Twain National Forest, Coy Bald, Assumption Abbey, and Fellows Lake — complete with wood knocks, massive pinecones thrown at their tent, overpowering smells, and a close-up encounter with beings that defy logic. Could these creatures cloak themselves to avoid detection? Are there Sasquatch with the ability to become nearly invisible? More than just another encounter, James’s story taps into something deeper — the strange connection between curiosity, intuition, and the parts of the woods we’re not meant to understand. Don’t miss this one. 🗣️ Share Your Story Had a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience? Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show! 🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube 🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube 💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts! 📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed) 👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share 🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist 🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters 💥 Support the Show & Get Perks ✅ Join the community on Patreon – Become a Member ✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here 📱 Let’s Connect Instagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links) These help support the show at no extra cost to you: Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for less http://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools: Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon ☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here 🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy 📬 Mailing Address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072 📧 Business Inquiries: bigfootsociety@gmail.comListen to the Podcast