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We’ve seen a number of DNA campaigns run from various researchers and institutions. And I certainly agree this area should be the top priority in the search. We also have Meldrun doing a lot of work on the footprint and locomotion front. But what other areas could scientists and researchers really take a more in depth deep dive? I know infrasonics has been a large area of interest, but has anyone performed any large scale studies? I know it’s a pretty difficult undertaking with the costs and equipment, but there could be some invaluable data to be collected if the infrasonic theory proves to be accurate. To stay similarly in line with infrasound, have there been any deep dive vocalization studies? I know whoops and howls are a popular thing with field researchers, but have any primate vocalization experts spent any amount of time thoroughly researching? What other areas could we attempt in depth research into that could, if nothing else, provide us a means of getting closer to obtaining the much needed dna sample?

You make a good point. We all would like the Bigfoot topic to get the serious consideration and resources we feel it deserves. Yet, I would like to offer up this idea: PT Barnum (or someone like him) stated, "I don't care what they keep saying about me so long as they spell my name right" The idea is any press is good press. I don't see anything demeaning about a Messin' with Sasquatch commercial. In a way I think the more Bigfoot air fresheners in cars or mudflaps and beef jerky commercials put Bigfoot in the mind of the public. I see that as a good thing. This is having fun with the topic which I think softens the topic for the public. Attempting serious academic study of Bigfoot could be met with ridicule. Such serious people are lumped in with those people looking for unicorns. If a person claim they saw Bigfoot they probably don't have time to whip out their call phone This leaves them with a choice: Tell others what you saw or keep quit. As Gimlin found out, even having a film of a reported bigfoot is not enough to shied you from harassment and ridicule. If I saw what I thought was bigfoot in the woods, I might not tell anybody. Shows like Discovery and so on have done a decent job giving serious study to the Bigfoot concept. Really good shows have featured the kind of experts we want to present. These are people like Munns, Meldrum, john Bindernagal, Anna Nikaris, and so on. These people are a good face for the serious study of Bigfoot. Where we miss are shows like Finding Bigfoot where the bigfoot topic unintentionally becomes a joke. You have people talking about bigfoot like he exists as a proven. They brag about all these things they attribute as fact right down to bigfoot's diet, bigfoot's favorite color, and bigfoot's favorite baseball team. When you have Bobo running around saying every twig snap is a 'squatch' all the previous well- built credibility is lost. You can't underestimate the damage this has created. Anyone doing a serious study of Bigfoot is lumped in with the face of Bigfoot. That face is Bobo. For me, finding bigfoot has done more to harm the subject of bigfoot second only to Bob Heironimus unchallenged claims

Thanks for that. Definitely sounds as if it could be our quarry! Nice catch. Almost as if they were annoyed you put recorders on their turf.

Cut it into 1000s of fondue steaks and send it to every biology lab in the nation.🤷🏻‍♂️ I wont break our forum rules and go into detail, but the alleged reason that UFOs wont be disclosed is because of religious beliefs. Dunno.

This is a volume enhanced 2 to 3 minute .wav file from the original .mp3 file which was 2 hours long. This is just about the same size as the audio used in the video. Hope this helps. treefall.WAV

The spikes in the spectrogram, where I put the arrow, wondering if you could link that section of audio for more context.

I agree with you. The government knows. Why keep this from the people? There is something profound enough to merit the secrecy. Finding a body won't change the decision to keep it a secret. It will only lead to an aggressive cover up effort. How could you release it without being stopped by the government? Youtube? You'll be called a hoaxer. Sending the DNA to someone? They will be silenced and discredited. Sending it to a university? Their funding and grants will be threatened. How can you overcome the machine that is designed to control the info? Not saying its impossible, but it will require an in depth, multi threaded plan.

With their capabilities? SOMEONE in the government knows something I would wager. If you follow UFO’s? Many organizations have simply given up on disclosure and are now attempting to detect and possibly retrieve materials associated with UFOs first. If the Government acts aggressively when they claim nothing is there? It makes everyone stand up and take notice.

As someone in this industry, I agree fully and you’ve explained it perfectly. Another excellent post, lots of common sense on this board!!!

In my view, that is equally important.

Forests like everything else need to be managed. Letting nature take its course….has its effects!

Massachusetts sightings by a park ranger. Seemed relevant to your experiences.

Do you think the government already knows about this creature?

typical word play in the original post. not blaming the OP, but I am blaming his sources for fear mongering. opening 112M acres for logging doesn't mean that 112M acres will be logged. Today, we log anywhere from 2M to 10M acres a year in the US. The directive from President Trump is to increase logging by 25% domestically. That means 500K to 2.5M acres will be logged out of the 112M acres. We are talking about .45% to 2.23% of the 112M acres being logged. We have 823M acres of forest in the US. When you look at the amount of total forest impact, we are talking about to .06% to .30% of the forest being logged annually under this new rule. Is this really a sky is falling moment? NOT EVEN CLOSE. It is more whipped up hysteria from the true enemy of the people, the media.

The Forest Service doesn’t even clear out trails or roads anymore. And their forests are a mess. Waiting for a lightning strike or a careless camper. Fires happen in nature. But reducing the fuel load reduces the intensity of the fire greatly.

It is both. Our forests are being mismanaged. Fires are getting bad. And the tariff wars will have a negative effect on Canadian imports including lumber. Which is the point of tariffs is to bring production and jobs back to America. Here is a random snapshot of the border between the U.S. and Canada in the Yaak River drainage. Do you notice anything? Which side is logging more? Most timber production in the U.S. no longer comes from the U.S. Forest Service. It comes from state lands and private lands. I.e. Weyerhaeuser or Boise Cascade. And the last part that really gets under my hide is that the U.S. Forest Service is a part of the Dept of AGRICULTURE. Why agriculture? Because up until the spotted owl debacle? Forests were seen as a green renewable resource. You’re growing a crop. You harvest the crop, and you replant the crop. Now they treat them like parks. They don’t touch them, the fuel load grows and grows per acre until a hot summer and a lightning strike sets off a massive forest fire. As a fire fighter of 17 years? Loggers respect flag lines and timber sale boundaries. Forest fires? Do not. Complete towns have burned down. This is mismanagement on an epic scale. And if I started a fire on my property and it spread to Forest Service property? They would sue me into oblivion…. but when it’s the other way around? Crickets. What does this all mean for Bigfoot? Remember that US Parks and wilderness areas will not be touched. But clear cuts are beneficial to certain species like Elk and Deer. If Bigfoot likes to eat hoofed critters? He will like clear cuts. Also all logging respects RZs or Riparian zones, so they cannot log right down to the crick or river. This keeps fish and other critters habitat intact. Also Bigfoot already has to navigate forest fire burnt areas already. A clear cut in his eyes would be just the same without the threat of being burned alive. Some noisy loggers move in for a couple of months and then they are gone.🤷‍♂️

Theres many articles. Heres googles AI overview: On Friday, April 5th, the USDA issued a memo allowing logging on over 112 million acres of national forests, aiming to increase timber production and reduce wildfire risk, potentially bypassing standard environmental processes. Here's a more detailed breakdown: The Memo: Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins issued a memo, following an executive order, to expedite logging activities in designated forests. Purpose: The move aims to increase U.S. timber production and empower the Forest Service to take emergency actions to reduce wildfire risk. Scope: The memo impacts 112,646,000 acres, which is 59% of all Forest Service lands, determined to be at risk of fire, harmful insects, or both. Impacted Areas: This includes forests like the Medicine Bow-Routt National Forest, Bridger-Teton National Forest, Shoshone National Forest, Black Hills National Forest, and Bighorn National Forest. Environmental Concerns: The memo could potentially dismantle some National Environmental Policy Act processes, raising concerns about environmental safeguards. Environmental Groups Opposition: Environmental groups like the Sierra Club, Coalition to Protect America's National Parks, and Environment America oppose the memo, citing potential harm to environmental protections and increased risk to forests. heres an article USDA designates 113 million acres for emergency logging to boost U.S. timber production i'm not saying that that isnt going to happen and yes its needed, but thats one claim to justify this whole thing. From what Ive read its really being done to boost US timber production

I have a 100 percent guaranteed solution. We need a body!

To kind of piggyback off of this, is anybody aware of any studies that have been conducted across the infrasonic/ultrasonic spectrum? I know in the primate world larger primates have been known to emit infrasonic sounds and smaller have been known to emit ultrasonic sounds. But it would be interesting to see if one vs the other produced more, if any, callbacks in Bigfoot habitat.

Let's be real here. The idea that some kind of large ape like creature roaming the wildlands of the world has always been treated with ridicule and derision . ( and will continue until one is captured or dead body presented) . Way before they were called bigfoot , people who told stories of encounters, were viewed as a few bricks shy a full load. It doesn't help there are so many hoaxers and actual persons a few bricks shy a full load involved with the search and topic . You know this isn't the only bigfoot forum I've been to . But it's the sanest one I've been to.

I came across a similar, but larger, structure in WV in the early 2010’s. I wish I would have been more serious about taking pictures and collecting evidence back then.

Any indication on the distribution across the country? To my knowledge, the majority of national forests are in the PNW. Will it all be concentrated there or will this be spread across the country?

It’s a tough balancing act. The absurdity is what brings in viewers. More eyes and ears on the subject overall is probably a net positive. One of those people may eventually make a major scientific contribution that otherwise wouldn’t have happened if they hadn’t seen *insert overly dramatized fringe theory Bigfoot show here*.

Sure. It used to be if you saw a bigfoot sticker on a car, you could pretty well bet it was either another researcher or someone with deep interest, maybe personal experience. Today bigfoot is the equivalent of a pink flamingo on someone's lawn. There is no stopping cultural absurdity. Stuff is not in your control or mine. All we can do is manage ourselves.

Boots on the ground observation here says his claim is correct.