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Interesting he is turning his attention to this!

ALL OF IT. How did the military at Kecksburg Pa haul off a flaming object that fell out of the sky that four states saw. How many radio reports? How many newspaper reports? They had to haul the object off with a SEMI TRUCK! Cops and Firefighters must like their pensions because they never said nothing. Out of hundreds of witnesses? How many came forward? Damn few. And did ANY of this budge the needle on government transparency? Nope. And if you don't have physical evidence? You’re gonna be labeled a crackpot hoaxer. You have already fallen for it. You don't like the comparison to UFOs because you don't like the stigma attached to them. Well guess what? Bigfoot has a massive stigma attached to it as well. Why does the government do this? 🤷🏻‍♂️

It’s a pretty safe assumption social media of convincing pics and video of a dead Bigfoot would too much for the government to stop. I’ll gladly assume that. I think I’m being fair. I wish UFOs wouldn’t come up when we talk bigfoot. (Incidentally I don’t believe at all Area 51 Roswell crash and esp don’t believe Bob Lazars BS stories.). That government dropped the ball silencing Patterson and Gimlin and their showing of the PGF. I’ll just wait for the post suggesting Patterson was really poisoned. let’s keep it simple. How could a “silencing government” act fast enough to stop an incident as my hypothetical scenario described? What part specifically was so unlikely?

It’s hard to tell how big of a coverup there is. According to DeLonge, there’s DNA evidence, but the government doesn’t understand the phenomenon. It’s possible that the phenomenon is more mysterious and complex than we give it credit for.

At this point, I'd say that the Bigfoot is out of the Bag. But it hasn't happened that way yet, and since Facebook is so relatively new, that should be no surprise. The closest we've come so far is Justin Smeja. So hang on, your dream scenario might come true soon.............

You make too many assumptions in your hypothetical situation to line item it. Instead? Let’s look at a similar case? What happened here? It’s pretty much the scenario you described? Can you view the object in a museum? Or does the “government” deny it ever happened? If they can cover up a crashed UFO? They can cover up a Bigfoot incident! https://youtu.be/DUuxA0zmAK0?si=UAlzkbe0CR-ktdza

This doesn't even come close to addressing the Q's and issues put out in the sample Q. I apricate an attempt to answer. If willing, could you elaborate?

Canadian polar bears biopsy darting. He is using a blank fired dart gun instead of a pneumatic one.

Call it a hoax! Collect the body = no evidence. How many of these have we already lived through? Biscardi comes to mind. Was it a hoax? Probably. The Minnesota Ice man? Doesn't the fact that the Smithsonian doesn't have to follow Federal law bother you??? If you’re not keeping secrets? Then be transparent!

To: "the Government knows" crowd This is for those who think the Government knows about Bigfoot and is keeping it quiet I have a Question: Scenario: A person is hunting a carrying a cell phone. They shoot Bigfoot and kill it. (Choose any reason you wish. Mistaken Identify, an act of self-defense or whatever). 1) They take pics of it and video with the cell phone. 2) They post the selfies on Facebook and various social media. 3) They call the cops and others 4) The cops show up. At this point (a) everyone on social media is sharing the pics and vids (b) those who show up are regular cops and game warden types who just minutes before were worrying about someone having an updated fishing license or littering. At no time do these 'cops' know they are somehow supposed to know they are supposed to help the government keep Bigfoot quiet. 5) While these local cops sort things out, the videos and pics on social media continue like wildfire. 6) These guys fill out a report and call DNR type people as well as a coroner. Who knows, maybe even the state university to see if there is some primates expect who can come down. My Question: What actions could the "Government" take to put the horse back in the barn in this example? I am suggesting any effort- even if such a government wanted to silence the story- is too late. There really isn't anything in my story problem that is unrealistic. In fact, I think I am even making any steps the government would need to do to silence the story to be much easier than it actually would be. Please tell me how the Government keeps things quiet in this scenario.

Here is a pneumatic dart gun on land animals.

As a hunter, and a bow hunter as well? I would back off and give it some space for a few hours and then I would track it. The dart will be a bright color and it might be possible to place a AirTag or other tracking device to help locate it. In a forest environment the dart is either going to fall out. Or the creature may pull it out, or the brush and limbs may pull it out as it walks. I was a hounds-man 20 years ago. We used to track our dogs with Marshall collars and a Yaggi antenna. I bet that technology is better and smaller now. I have not kept abreast in that field and would have to research further. I think they use satellites now instead of radio telemetry. Anyhow I still say shoot the first one with a gun and be done with it. But being a member of these forums I understand that most researchers are just not willing to do that. So option B is we still need a chunk of the animal, real physical evidence. So how do we do that with minimal harm to the target species? Anyhow I am talking out loud right now. But I may buy a crossbow and start playing and testing with the idea. It doesn’t have to be the latest greatest crossbow. Just an old style recurve would be plenty powerful enough to get a one inch sample core from the creature. It reminds me of a bow hunting trip we were on in northern Washington. We never saw an Elk but we were killing Grouse for dinner with our judo points. We had this bull moose come through and we of course didn’t have a tag. It’s a once in a lifetime draw. So my buddy loads a judo point and we called it in and he smacked it right in the heart lung area. It ran off and we collected his arrow. Just an aluminum arrow with a big rubber tip. Didn’t hurt the Moose at all. But probably wouldn’t have impressed a game warden. But we basically called in and shot a bull moose. It was a sense of accomplishment. Any bow hunting is….very challenging. Anyhow it gave me the idea and so I started researching the idea and found they do use this in biology.

Not trying to throw a wrench in this discussion. But I think discovery has already happened and they are hiding it. The Giant research people are reaching the same conclusion. The Smithsonian is exempt from any tribal requests for remains. Like the Lovelock cave Giants in Paiute lands. They won’t cough up anything. I always watch other parallel fields because they are so relevant to us. The UFO field is white hot right now with Congressional hearings happening all the time. But they are not getting anywhere because Congress does not have access to the darkest alleys of our secrets. What is truly amazing to me is that the UFO people are not letting it deter them. And they have set up retrieval teams in case of a crash. They plan on beating the government to the crash site and get proof. Either way? If Bigfoot is real? The truth will absolutely come out someday. And the nay sayers will probably never give the PGF or any researcher any credit. They will just move on with the scientific data like it’s no big deal. “Oh well Paranthropus Americanus has nothing to do with the PGF…..everyone knows that was a hoax.”🤷‍♂️

Several years ago, when I was active on the JREF/International Skeptics Forum, I ended up betting that Sasquatch would be scientifically proven by X date, which was a couple of years in the future. In the negotiations, I was able to talk them into giving me odds of 50,000 to 1, so I put up $50. That X date came and went and I paid $50 to a charity of his choice. It was fun and added something to the back and forth banter that I dealt with on that site. I wasn't ever going to collect $2.5 million if science finally proved they exist, but I was willing to put my money up for the cause.

I don't know how they define "found" either. I am hoping someone well versed in odds and gambling can clarify the article I found. Better yet, they might even stumble across a more detailed betting site which includes betting on Bigfoot. We all know impossible if 0% chance of something and certainty is 100% of something. I suppose everything else is just some range of likelihood between 0 and 100

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I gather a set-up akin to a bowfishing rig on a crossbow with low power draw and tipped bolt that has a stop, like the business end of a ski pole or somesuch. I'm sure it's doable, it's getting it into the hands of a prepared individual, in the right place, at the right time--the usual wrench in the works...

Norseman, How will you retrieve a dart from a Bigfoot? It's not a whale.

So, just why are you here?

OntarioSquatch, it is difficult to say which, if any, of these samples were contaminated. Details are rarely reported. In my case, however, my DNA matches exactly the human reference sequence, rCRS (revised Cambridge Reference Sequence), over the limited range that I sequenced, so any mutations from the reference that I found cannot be from me. They could however be from other humans in the woods. Many of the mutations I found were either very rare or nonexistent in the NCBI database, which is extensive. One of my samples had a mutation shared by a coworker, so I excluded it. Every person who collects samples should have his complete mtDNA sequence on file for just this reason.

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It must have been really fun realizing that my evidence proving that what I said was a fact, especially when my evidence was a quote of you admitting that it's all in your head.

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