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My point is that you can't dismiss the witness reports of paranormal outright while validating religious context of the phenomenon. That doesn't have anything to do with my point to you in my previous post that this is a huge part of the subject matter today and that denying conversation around it in the main forum is not great. None of this makes me a hypocrite. If you have a different view of it, please explain your stance rather than casting aspersions on me.

Walks like a duck, talks like a duck......

Not sure how me pointing out a clear contradiction in logic has anything to do with me saying we should be able to discuss these topics. Please explain.

And you castigated me for pointing out this belongs in the Paranormal section? Heh!

Network television shows should never be used as a reference point for a serious conversation. Have you watched any of Steve Isdahl's content on YouTube? He read letters from thousands of people who have had experiences. No gatekeeping, no selective information sharing. Worth a look if you are interested in a more diverse picture of this phenomenon. But if you are stuck on mid-tarsal breaks and knocking on trees, do your thing.

I’ve got to point out the glaring contradiction in your logic. You dismiss the “woo crowd” for entertaining anything paranormal, yet in the same breath you carve out 5% of reports as the work of demonic forces. That’s not skepticism — that’s selective belief. You’re comfortable invoking the Book of Enoch and Nephilim because it fits your personal worldview, but the moment someone mentions interdimensional or energetic phenomena, you call them mentally unstable. You’ve just swapped one kind of “woo” for another. If you’re going to treat demons as a legitimate explanatory category — invisible, nonphysical, and spiritual — then by your own logic, you’ve already opened the door to the paranormal. You can’t reject others for walking through it. The difference isn’t evidence; it’s bias. You believe your supernatural framework is valid because it aligns with your theology, while others’ are dismissed because they don’t. That’s not critical thinking; that’s dogma wearing a skeptic’s mask. You can’t have it both ways. Either stay fully in the empirical lane and reject all paranormal claims equally — or admit that you’re just choosing which mysteries feel most comfortable to believe in.

Yes, witnesses to sightings and such. In my experience over 65% of all reports are trash and are a combination of low IQ attention seeking, substance abuse, mental instability and misidentification via confirmation bias. I would say 20% are genuine misidentifications within situations where the average person could be fooled by lighting/angle on an known animal or something. I would also make room for about 5% being demonic forces actually messing with people as I am aware that this is a real thing. I am very aware of the Nephilim, the book of Enoch and if it is the case they are part of the dataset then they do not make up the species specifically, more like an imposter playing a role to spiritually prey on people. Sasquatch follow very basic environmental tasks that are compliant with physical constraints and perform them without bending reality, they still hunt on foot, retreat from danger on foot, wade marshes, climb high ledges, connect vocally over distance and endure weather. I have not found a single piece of evidence to suggest they had disappeared completely from a track line but rather they simply did not register enough at some point to be followed. I have heard of this snow trackway claim and have never found any substance or documentation of such an instance as I have read nearly every single report public ( also many unpublished ) on the BFRO site. A paranormal creature that has the abilities the woo folk claim would have no need to abide by any of these constraints. The remaining 10% indicates a high likelihood of being Bigfoot related in origin, this is weighed with evidence, evaluated witness character and layers of data correlations over time for locations that show reliable seasonal occupations. To be clear as possible, that 10% that fits the model with high grade evidence has never produced paranormal claims, the closest it has gotten is that the witness is open to the idea they may be paranormal but not directly experienced it. The paranormal side has no replication of good evidence, nothing novel to contribute to strengthen the subject and frankly is absolutely loaded with people who cannot be believed because of poor discernment, mental health and deliberate falsehoods. The reason many legitimate researchers move from flesh and blood to the paranormal side is due to the weakening of the mind over time, so much was invested into getting answers without any substantial gains made that it generally leads a person to conclude it is beyond measure or capture.

Your experience is- like all of our experiences- a personal experience. I don't doubt for a min what you claim is what you experienced. It is left for the rest of us to weigh if we believe any part of any reported experience, the whole thing, or none at all. We didn't experience it. We were not there. The more unusual the experience them more likely we, you, or I would question the experience. The most famous Bigfoot encounter we know of tends to be the PGF. Roger Patterson never claimed anything like what your claim is. Why is that? Bob Gimlin never early on made any kind of claim either. It could be if you approached Gimlin all these year later with your story the folksy nice man would say, "That never happened to me". He may say, "You know, I kind of had that feeling as well. Thanks for sharing" <-- This may be what he believed, or it maybe he is just being nice when working the friendly crowd. In all of these Bigfoot TV shows paranormal mind-reading never comes up when witnesses describe their claimed encounter. Usually the claims are traits like: - bad smelling odor - sudden encounter where bigfoot takes off - tree knocking - rock throwing - and so on. Limited to my TV viewing, I just don't see "many" saying they had the equivalent of a psychic experience/ your type of experience. We could even go to the extreme when the Son-of-Sam killer thought his dog was telling him to kill people. I have never personally had my Golden Retriever speak to me, but the Son-of-Sam Killer 100% thinks his dog spoke to him. That is his personal experience. What makes one Psychic connection crazy and other an objective truth? Had the Son-of-Sam killer said he had an encounter with Bigfoot and Bigfoot told him to kill people, what would we make of that? None of this is a personal attack on your integrity. Just fair questions based on the level of the claim being made. (Your biblical viewpoint mentioned I will not touch with a 10-foot pole)

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I have watched 57 head of elk in the middle of an expansive clearcut disappear into a little draw and though I could see the entire draw, I never saw them again. I even explored that draw and found no sign of them or where they went. It wasn't paranormal. The most intense feeling of fear i have ever experienced was caused by a squirrel starring at me. It was only when I saw the squirrel, that the fear went away.

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I have major concerns when someone uses interpretation of any religious text I disagree completely on your take/ text interpretation but won’t elaborate further as the discussion will become religious/biblical in nature which I assume is still forbidden on the BFF. As for the non-religious parts of your claim, stay tuned.

There's no doubt that Bigfoot is what I saw standing behind this log looking at our campsite. Can It possibly be true that Bigfoot is some kind of evil creature known as a Nephilim. The paranormal part was the telepathic communication from bigfoot to me telling me to wake up and receive a download. The Bigfoot sears a permanent image of it into the observer's brain that never leaves and may actually be an evil telepathic message. Sending telepathic messages to a human receiver can leave a permanent impression in someone's psyche. I am obsessed with the topic at the present time. This was stated by Ron Moorhead, "Bigfoots are self-aware, cognizant, sentient beings with language. In our culture humans are the only ones who are supposed to have those attributes. However, the Bible tells us that corrupt angelic beings mingled with human women and this act made hybrids that were giants, men of renown…the Nephilim (Gen 6:4). Giants returned on the scene in Numbers 13:33, after the flood. The same Hebrew word for giants in Genesis is also used in Numbers and it translates to ‘Nephilim’, i.e., the Fallen Ones." Bigfoot who is actually a Nephilim. A Nephilim Is the offspring between a demonic Angel and a human female. These creatures turn out to be giants and they just so happen to be the same size and appearance Have a Bigfoot.

I’d still like to hear what was “Paranormal” about the Bigfoot encounter in question. Not questioning an encounter took place or is claimed. I’m wondering what made this paranormal. Did I miss something? A claim of a Bigfoot encounter by itself is a major event A paranormal happening is a major event ( I’m assuming if I understood what it was)

This topic deals with normal Bigfoot behavior and paranormal aspects of the thread is a minor consideration. This thread will include supernatural or unusual behavior of Bigfoot. Some people call it paranormal which is not the dominating topic of this thread. Right now, we are working our way through Bigfoot's evolution. Incorrigible please just leave the thread where it i and after we are finished we can move it within the forum.

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