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For those following the upcoming Capturing Bigfoot documentary, the name Norm Johnson is certainly front and center since he possessed the film reel that's at the heart of it all. What's perhaps less known is that Norm's brother Dave Johnson could play a huge role in this new footage, namely being in the suit that we are going to eventually see. To recap posting events on BFF from 15 years ago, a person referenced by Greg Long in his MOB book as the 'Chinook pressman' turns out to be none other than Dave Johnson. It's known he was a bigfoot hoaxer during that time based on Marq Evans interview on the Den of Geek podcast. So considering his brother had the camera original, and Dave was a hoaxer, its not surprising the obvious conclusion would be Norm filmed Dave in a mimicry of the PGF and this has nothing directly to do with Roger. Since Marq mentioned that, people have been trying to get info on Dave, who appears to be still alive (based on a single posting on a FB group). He's be mid 80's at least by now, similar to Bob H. Todd Prescott at Sasquatch Archives has said that a few people have tried to get info on Dave but have come up empty. So I was wondering if being local might have some benefits? Is he a 'known' character in this Yakima saga, like Bob H and others? It appears he and Norm kept a very low profile (never appearing by name in MOB or elsewhere, even here on BFF) so they've been successful staying out of the spotlight. Are any reporters at the Yakima herald republic still interested in the PGF, would they use their resources to try and track him down? Theresa Brooks (discoverer of the reel) has not responded to any emails about the topic, and Dave certainly hasn't made any efforts to confirm or deny anything. I suspect (and hope) he has been waiting 60 years for this film to be shown, so he's going to stay quiet till October at least.
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Washington 1971 - Ray Wallace Vows Never to Add Tee-see-at-ko to His Zoo
Trogluddite posted a topic in More Historical Newspaper Archives
Normally, I would have added this to the queue for later publication, which currently extends out to June of 2027. However, this article published in The Tacoma News Tribune of Tacoma (WA) on November 7, 1971, seems too important to delay. Skeptics and scofftics like to hold up Ray Wallace as an "honest" man who should be believed as to his claims of faking every track in the Pacific northwest. His full throated claims that Bigfoot exist and that he has evidence of them appear to be transparent lies; his later claims about being the brains behind the Bigfoot hoax appear to be equally transparent but just lies in a different direction. -
^^^ This is a point Anna Nikaris has made about Bigfoot. She discovered some similar primate in Asia herself a few years ago. Never know what is out there.
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Since Norse mentioned it: https://xcancel.com/FoxNews/status/2084638246978371709 Never been anywhere near a wildfire of that nature, and I never want to be either.
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Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference Oct 3 2026 Nixa, MO
Margie Kay posted a topic in Conferences, Symposiums & Other Get-Togethers
Saturday, October 3, 2026 in Nixa, Missouri Join Bigfoot enthusiasts from across the country for an unforgettable day featuring some of the nation's top researchers, investigators, and speakers sharing their latest evidence, encounters, and discoveries. Browse a wide variety of vendors offering Bigfoot books, artwork, collectibles, outdoor gear, and unique merchandise. Then make your experience even bigger with the optional VIP Bigfoot Barbecue dinner on October 2, followed by an exclusive Bigfoot hunt at a secret location on October 4—an adventure you won't want to miss! Speakers are Dave- AKA Sasquatch, Danial Hamilton, Margie Kay, Harley Owens, Dan Nedrelo, Jim Peters, Joe Jenkins, and the emcee for the event is radio personality Race Hobbs. Whether you're a seasoned researcher, an outdoor enthusiast, or simply curious about one of America's greatest mysteries, the Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference is the place to be. Register today, because seating is limited and this event is expected to sell out. Visit www.UnXNetwork.com for complete details and registration. -
https://www.science.org/content/article/mysterious-orange-lipped-monkey-discovered-deep-congo-rainforest-new-species I'm surprised that this doesn't have a thread yet. It seems tangentially relevant. This line I found interesting: "The Likweli monkey was first caught on camera in 2008, when a research expedition snapped a blurry photo of a black-pelted primate they didn’t recognize." That's right folks, all started with a blobmonkey!
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Sasquatch Festival Returns to Upstate New York With Epic Bigfoot Calling Contest hudsonvalleycountry.comView the full article -
2010/05/Unknown - Presentation - B. Gimlin at Salt Fork Ohio (Parts 1 and 2)
Trogluddite posted a topic in Patterson-Gimlin Film Reference Materials
Bob Gimlin Presentation Salt Fork, Ohio – May 2010 (Parts 1 and 2) Videos currently on YouTube YouTube Auto-Transcription edited by Trogluddite June – August 2026 Part 1 of the interview can be found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOrPTtg00MI. Part 1 of the interview can be found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qdN9ho6hjI. Transcript 2010 Presentation by B. Gimlin (Pts 1-2).docx These presentations are also available through the Bigfoot Encounters website, http://www.bigfootencounters.com/, on the Films and More Videos tab. The links there take you to a YouTube channel named newenglandfolklore. -
Thanks everyone. Good input. This all gives me some things to think about. If nothing else, I would bet Bigfoot could greatly outpace the best human wilderness explorer be they Bear Grylls, Survivor man, or Grisly Adams. So long as they can outpace a person, they are people safe from unwelcomed interaction with people.
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I walked 33 miles in 9 hours on a paved highway one night at age 21. I walked 5 miles on a muddy trail and across Coal Creek in a couple hours in the dark several years ago in my mid-60's. I didn't run or even trot either time. I just walked without stopping. But I didn't do it day after day, either. I have done multiple 20-50 mile hikes through the wilderness, though. I did Crow Creek Pass in less than 24 hours, but that wasn't intentional. A bear essentially chased me out. https://dnr.alaska.gov/parks/maps/crowpasstrailguide.pdf
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Just watched that Geronimo did 95 miles in 24 hours at 55 years old.
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norseman started following Paranthropus footprints found
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My totally uneducated guess. Back during the "War", troops routinely marched 10-15 miles in a day in decent weather. And they were carrying a fair amount of baggage. Stonewall's boys could do 15-20 if they needed to, maybe a little more. Taking a guess that BF could easily do three times the speed of a man without breaking a sweat (based on eyewitness accounts), maybe 30-40 miles/day on cruise control, and perhaps somewhere around 50-60 if they decided to push it. But my guess would be that they would only go as far as they thought they needed to. They would need to find "refueling" areas along the way. Plus it might also matter which side of the fire they were on. Was the fire between them and known areas or could they make to places they had been before so they knew the routes to take? Definitely a lot of variables in play in this scenario.
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Bigfoot Follows Researcher Home to Winchester, Connecticut
BFFbot posted a topic in Bigfoot Society Podcast
Chris Reinhardt returns to Bigfoot Society with the complete story he's never told from beginning to end. After losing access to a longtime Connecticut habituation area, an unbelievable series of events unfolded around his own home in Winchester. A local Bigfoot sighting is followed by mysterious activity at hummingbird feeders, apparent gifting behavior, missing objects, disappearing wildlife, strange vocalizations in the woods, and encounters witnessed by both Chris and his wife. Chris also shares two extraordinary audio recordings captured near his former research area that have been analyzed by experienced investigators and are unlike known wildlife. The conversation explores years of research in Northwest Connecticut, the history of the Winsted Wild Man, the mysterious recordings from "Larry's" habituation area, and Chris's continuing search for answers. Whether you're interested in eyewitness encounters, field research, historical reports, or the stranger side of the Bigfoot phenomenon, this episode offers a fascinating firsthand account from one of Connecticut's most active researchers. Resources: Untold Radio Channel Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@untoldradionetwork Chris’s Youtube channel: https://youtube.com/@realamericanmonsters Contact Chris here: realamericanmonsters@gmail.com 📖 Follow Jeremiah's cancer health updates here: https://www.caringbridge.org/site/569ef3d3-68be-11f1-8790-97fdfd2bbc64 🗣️ Share Your Story Had a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience? Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show! 🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube 🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube 💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts! 📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed) 👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share 🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist 🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters 💥 Support the Show & Get Perks ✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member ✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here 📱 Let’s Connect Instagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links) These help support the show at no extra cost to you: Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for less http://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools: Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon ☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here 🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy 📬 Mailing Address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072Listen to the Podcast -
Best Circumstantial Evidence
xspider1 replied to Northern Lights's topic in General Bigfoot Discussion
This is from google AI which apparently uses 'RankBrain (introduced by google in 2015), Neural Matching, BERT and Multitask Unified Model Technologies': "Yes, a DNA mutation can be misinterpreted as a new species, particularly when it causes drastic physical changes (morphological variations) or anomalies in genetic sequencing data. Biologists historically and modernly encounter scenarios where extreme genetic mutations or variations cause individuals to look or appear genetically distinct enough to be misclassified." https://www.google.com/search?q=could+a+dna+mutation+be+misinterpreted+as+a+new+species&oq=could+a+dna+mutation+be+misonterpreted+as+a+new++&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCQgBECEYChigATIGCAAQRRg5MgkIARAhGAoYoAEyCQgCECEYChigATIJCAMQIRgKGKABMgkIBBAhGAoYoAEyCQgFECEYChigATIJCAYQIRgKGKsCMgkIBxAhGAoYqwIyCQgIECEYChirAjIHCAkQIRiPAtIBCjM1MDM2ajBqMTWoAgiwAgHxBTaC9ee45wmp&sourceid=chrome&source=chrome.rb&ie=UTF-8 I really probably am too far into AI. I hate what the AI data centers are being allowed to do to our environment; I just can't get over a fascination with it. Although, I have seen AI give bogus answers and, as a general rule; I would trust what some of you guys say regarding Bigfoot over an AI response most of the time. -
Good questions. How far does (the usual) Bigfoot travel in a day? A long time ago I looked up a bunch of biology information for comparison. Orangutans have a average home territory of 6 - 12 square miles; presumably they don't go any further than they have to in a given day. Black bears average 15 - 60 square miles for their home territory. Some website said that grizzlies had home territories of 50-300 square miles for females and up to 1,500 square miles for males. So it would seem that the expected maximum range any animal travels in a given day would be "not much more than that needed to meet it's basic needs." So a grazing deer may walk 2-3 miles in a day, but go around in a circuit grazing and a larger carnivore/omnivore would go a good bit further because it needs more calories. Maybe 8 miles per day, but never going further than 4-5 miles from its starting point. How far can a Bigfoot on a mission go in a single day? Probably impossible to guess. Is it following a fairly passable game (or human) trail or is it bushwhacking cross-country? Does the route it take have a lot of elevation gain and are there resources (food, water) along the way? Finally, what is driving the movement? Staying ahead of a fire and not burning to death is a pretty good motivator, but there are still limits on animals' and humans' endurance and stamina, particularly if factoring in stress, dehydration, hunger, etc, as MIB noted. I read somewhere that wagon trains only made an average of 20 miles/day crossing flat prairies. That seems to be to be a good maximum distance for a two-legged primate traveling in rugged terrain, but I certainly wouldn't argue very strenuously against someone who thought that 100 miles/day was possible. Bigfoot n' Beyond recently re-released an interview with Sara, who was camping in the Marble Mountains and heard a Bigfoot traveling for quite some distance. It's Episode 374. If I recall correctly, she also believed that whatever she was hearing was covering a lot of rough terrain very, very quickly.
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^^^ Be safe if you go.
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Talked to my son tonight and we may be deployed to Tonasket. Thats the Sinlahekin fire.
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Hey Backdoc ... good questions. The answer is nobody really knows. I'll risk speculating though. Back in August of 2011 when my then-new buddy Bill and I did our first backpacking trip we had some activity. From laying on my back, my sense was the big guy coming toward / into camp was traveling at least 10-12 mph and was doing it walking, not running. I say that based on the slow cadence of the steps and the immense amount of ground he was covering. So .. guessing .. if they were pushed, I would think they could cover upwards of 100 miles in a day. That's not a long term sustainable speed because it doesn't leave time to gather calories but in a burst, at need, I think it is possible. Depending on what they are eating and how long they have to slow down to gather it, they might well maintain our walking speed while traveling and foraging. I don't think they move that fast most of the time, not on average. In that same area where we had the camp visits, activity often starts between August 15th and 20th and persists into early September, then tapers off. I've had sparse "action" 'til around the 20th-25th of September some years. The next canyon over, maybe 6 miles away, I've had at least hints of potential bigfoot activity past the middle of October. I don't think they maintain a set speed. I think they go faster when they're not finding concentrations of resources and they slow down when the grub is good and the hiding is better. Unfortunately that doesn't give the simple and constant numerical values for speed / distance your question seems to ask. From mid October into Christmas or beyond they sorta disappear. If it is the same "guys" they pop up in two places. One is about 40 miles across fairly open country (with a huge lake in the middle) so I assume they skirt it on one side or the other. Reports there go into spring then stop. The other stays along the foot of the mountains .. a smattering of reports through winter .. and seem to pass back over the crest in a lower area and return to this closer side, then swing north a little. In neither case are they making big miles, probably averaging less than one mile per day, though I doubt that's at a steady pace, again, could well be driven by ease of gathering calories. Bill followed up on one report seemingly from a member of the group that goes through that saddle and comes back to this side of the mountains. That was right around Christmas and was in the saddle. That saddle is, for whatever it is worth, probably 5-6 miles only from where one of those fire crews saw the bigfoots following them to and from the fire line in the dark. That is near enough valley bottom that perhaps they are not part of that group / gathering either. I could be over-connecting dots that don't belong together. Itsa risk! MIB
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International 1920s to 1951 - Everest Explorers Find Evidence of Abominable Snowman
Trogluddite posted a topic in More Historical Newspaper Archives
The full article concerning Shipton's photo of footprints published by the Daily Mirror of London on December 6, 1951 included reports of earlier encounters. -
Pennsylvania 1979 - Snowmobilers See Bigfoot - John Green!
Trogluddite posted a topic in More Historical Newspaper Archives
Included in John Green's database as Incident #992455 and added to the Standardized Sighting Reports database by Forums member Redbone, this incident is included in a newspaper article published in The Daily American of Somerset (PA) on November 30, 1981. The article also includes another encounter identified by John Green, Incident # 992473, from November of 1980. That incident is also in the SSR thanks to Rebone's efforts. -
Texas 1969/11/10 - The Lake Worth Monster is Coming For You (And Your Chicken BBQ)
Trogluddite posted a topic in More Historical Newspaper Archives
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International 1912 - Is an Ape Terrorizing Australia, or ...
Trogluddite posted a topic in More Historical Newspaper Archives
... is this just bad poetry published in The Albury Banner, Wodonga Express and Riverina Stock Journal of Albury, Australia on November 22, 1912? This appeared in a column entitled "To Correspondents," in which the paper responded to people who had written in with questions or comments. -
Texas 1965 - The Caddo Critter Fades Away
Trogluddite posted a topic in More Historical Newspaper Archives
Published in the Fort Worth (TX) Star-Telegram on August 13, 1965; like so many other encounters with a possible Bigfoot, the Caddo Critter just faded away, becoming a tag line in stories about rifle competitions, archery season, and tiger hunts in China. -
This brings up an interesting point I haven't considered: How far does a Bigfoot travel in a given day? What is the expected maximum range in a given day? Fire or not, maybe Bigfoot is only traveling 3 miles on foot. Maybe 20. That number- whatever it is- detemrines everything. If there is a big-time fire, can a walking animal essentially escape its effects in a short distance? Would 2 or 3 miles away be enough? Would it take 10? Once bigfoot moves to a safer area it would probably put the fire behind him and move on like business as usual. Then if the fire approached again would alter its behavior set on new circumstances. How far can Bigfoot travel in a day? ------------------------- This from the movie The Fugitive regarding a man on foot: “Our fugitive has been on the run for ninety minutes. Average foot speed over uneven ground, barring injuries, is 4 miles per hour. That gives us a radius of six miles. What I want from each and every one of you is a hard-target search of every gas station, residence, warehouse, farmhouse, henhouse, outhouse and doghouse in that area. Checkpoints go up at fifteen miles. Your fugitive’s name is Dr. Richard Kimble. Go get him.” -------------------------- Deer, Horses, Fox, and so on have 4 legs and can likely cover a heck of a lot of territory in a day (and night travel is possible). I'm guessing Bigfoot has a much more limited in range.
