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I’d say these are good points but ultimately the wrong question being asked. We should assume any hoax requires destroying any evidence it’s a hoax. We think that’s the suit and it is. But, it’s also any photo or film of any dry run. It’s a given the suit would be destroyed immediately or soon after the PGF money tour once they knew it wouldn’t be needed again. Whatever the method, we can all believe-an accept -the suit would get destroyed. the real question: why would ANYONE involved in a hoax record evidence On Film of a hoax? There is nothing about this point making any sense. No one involved in any hoax would film any “dry run” of such a hoax and would destroy such a film right away if a pre-PGF would be needed. No one developing such a film would sneak off and make a secret copy. There would be no need to. It’s a job. Develop the film. If the film was developed in secret like the PFG likely was the developer doesn’t keep a copy around. Makes no sense. Further they are trying to hide the fact they did a favor for someone in sneaky development. if Bob Heironimus came forward back in the day claiming to be the man in the suit AND TOOK PHOTOS of the suit that is a story with promise. We might assume he might photograph the Patty suit on his person or displayed in the trunk of his car. Weird behavior from a loyal friend who they “knew could be trusted” but at least it makes sense. We could further verify the photos by the fact the suit on the photos clearly matches. I can buy the concept Hoaxers doing a trial run to make sure the hoax looks convincing. Unlikely but let’s assume. But they would destroy the such a film right away. There wouldn’t be copies made as there would be no need for a copy. Any original wouldn’t be let out of the site of the hoaxers. They don’t keep it around or let come copy float around. The Question has an answer. No one gong to the trouble of a PGF level-film and allow a smoking gun to hang around. I don’t care if it’s Kitkaze’s Patty suit under glass nonsense or a film of a “dry run”

This is quite interesting.

Good points Norse and why do you think South Africa may be a good place to look for primate fossils when compared to the temperate jungles of North America or places in South America or central Africa? Can someone post the link to the Otang? Finding primate fossils in South Africa may bring clues as to the evolution and existing behavior of the South African bigfoot called the Otang. Discovering the living creature might bring more clues as to the habits of bigfoot if the Otang is proven to be identical to the other bigfoots found worldwide. The South African jungle is more confined when compared to vast jungles found in central Africa, forests of North America or jungles of South America that may help to bring about more knowledge of a flesh and blood bigfoot or a paranormal bigfoot through the study of the Otang. The paranormal feature of the common bigfoot leads me to wonder if bigfoot really evolved on Earth. The Otang will likely attract more researchers to the jungle of South Africa that may bring about more primate fossils and knowledge of the living creature.

We are like Chimps in some ways. Google the Gombe Chimp war. Not many species fight total wars over years. We both do. But of course there are differences as well. Neanderthal DNA in modern humans has been linked to Autism. Autistic people don't like crowds, loud noises, being touched, etc. https://news.clemson.edu/study-implicates-neanderthal-dna-in-autism-susceptibility/

Sorta'. His primary position is that chimps are not like us (and vice versa) even though we're so close genetically. We're more like wolves and cetaceans in social behavior, and I agree.

Tonight’s guest, Dean Gleason, is the Executive Director and Chief Investigator for Seaway Valley Bigfoot Research. Dean was featured on Episode 333, and on that show he shared several Sasquatch-related sightings and experiences he’d had, up to that point. Since that show aired, he’s had another sighting and several other experiences. He’s come back to bring us up to speed on the experiences he’s had since he was on the show back then. We hope you’ll tune in and listen to him do that. If you had a Sasquatch sighting in Dean’s research area and would like to speak with him about it, you can reach him at 315-528-2615. Please text him at that number to coordinate a phone conversation with him. If you’d like to check out Dean’s TikTok Channel, which we hope you will, please visit… https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfootman1963 If you’d like to visit the Seaway Valley Bigfoot Research Facebook Page, please visit… https://www.facebook.com/groups/182844005184135/ If you've had at least one Sasquatch sighting and would like to be a guest on the show, please go to BigfootEyewitness.com and let me know. I'd love to hear from you. f you’d like to help support the show, by buying your own Bigfoot Eyewitness t-shirt or sweatshirt, please visit the Bigfoot Eyewitness Show Store, by going to https://Dogman-Encounters.MyShopify.com I produce 4 other shows that are available on your favorite podcast app. If you haven't checked them out, here are links to all 4 channels on the Spreaker App... My Bigfoot Sighting https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-bigfoot-sighting Dogman Tales https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/dogman-tales--6640134 Dogman Encounters https://www.spreaker.com/show/dogman-encounters-radio_2 My Paranormal Experience https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-paranormal-experience Thanks, as always, for listening! Listen to the Podcast

He is positing that Humans are not primates. Right? I mean I haven’t read his book. But the title and the short review I did read leads me to that point of view. I could be completely wrong. So I believe he would hold the opinion that humans are not related to Bigfoot, Gorillas, Chimps, Orangs nor monkeys or lemurs. No primates. My personal opinion is that Bigfoot as a biped primate would be more closely related to humans than any other species on Earth. I could be wrong. Maybe American monkeys gave rise to their own biped primate? Or maybe orangutans and it walked across a land bridge? Anything is possible. But how scientists classify a Bigfoot? Is it Gigantopethicus Blacki? A Homo Neanderthalis? An Australopithecus Afarensis? All bipeds presumably. But not all human. That’s above my pay grade.🤷‍♂️ We won’t know until a body is discovered.

Precisely. And just because sasquatches walk like us, talk like us, have feet like ours, but don't utilize fire or tools doesn't mean they aren't a human species. Yup. And sasquatches might be a human species, regardless of their shy behaviors and lack of tool/fire use.

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Or? How do you burn green horse hide and a football helmet with a glass eye ball?🤷🏻‍♂️ Yah its some weak sauce.

Okay here my question among others clint Patterson is the one who claims he saw his dad burn the alleged Sasquatch suit in a barrel that took 30 minutes to burn 2 days or something after the PGF was shot why didn’t Clint Patterson come forward with this years ago? Why wait 59 years?

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I am not following his logic. Primates are incredibly diverse. Just because we don’t look or act like a Chimp doesn’t mean we are not related to them. And to make matters worse? Everything that was super closely related to us is extinct. With Chimps being our closest living relatives. But if Lucy was still walking around Africa? Would Jonathan Leaf even pose this question seriously? We must look like an island to some people. But so does a Bush Baby. All primates. Humans are primates, it’s not a myth.

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From a scientific standpoint? South Africa would be a much more logical place to look than North America. We are still finding new primate fossil species all the time there.

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This part of what you said sounds just about right to me. When has our reality ever been what science understands it to be?? They definitely have a cheat code.

RIP Gareth Patterson, he sadly passed last week.

I could go on for an hour about what has gone on here. The constant is that there is always the sound of static electricity or much like the crinkling of a potato chip bag at ceiling hight and the room gets extremely cold during the less than welcome shenanigans.

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I've known at least one other person in real life who experienced what felt like a giant cat crawl on their bed, starting from the foot of the bed. I believe aliens/poltergeists/hauntings/orbs/ufos have the same origin Also, years later like around covid I would see this clip from the movie communion and its very similar to what i saw and experienced except that i saw it in the reflection of the mirror and it was peeking at me through the gap in the door that I left open. Its eerily similar to this clip from communion.. except it skin was brown and its almond shaped eye was smaller.

I would agree that in the interest of the government, its better off to just deny deny and deny what it can't explain or control. But as far as to "why" it leaves us to speculate. I would imagine if there was a disclosure about Sasquatch and that if the government basically said sasquatch is an alpha apex predator and that they possibly hunt and abduct humans, it would change A LOT about how humans approach nature.