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He means in terms of species and morphology. If you dig up a Homo Erectus and then another. How do you tell which one was the more accomplished hunter or stone tools maker? With the artifacts that you find with their remains. If you do this enough? You build up a data base based on the bulk of the findings. Not the outliers. I believe it’s called a bell curve.

I prefer ice cream, thanks. And I will most definitely eat it, but will leave a few drops on the front of my shirt leave as a mystery sign for future scientists to concluded all kinds of theories regarding my occupations and tool use, and probably few of them will deduce that I was simply a slob. Their names are Adam and Eve, and they live in perfect harmony in the Garden.

If there are Sasquatch out there today (or feral people) that's the entire point. They leave no old campfires, no broken tools, no worn-out clothing, etc. They leave no sign that they even exist. That leaves other groups of human-types wondering "are they animals, are they people, or are they ghosts." It's the ultimate survival strategy. It takes something that's VERY smart to pull that off!

But you understand that your opinion is not scientifically valid? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldowan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acheulean https://archaeology.org/news/2015/05/07/150507-siberia-denisovan-bracelet/ Denisovans are rocket scientists compared to Oldowan technology. And they didn’t just interbreed with us but also Neanderthals.

We have a scientifically proven case of a feral human being identified as an Almas for over a century, and the widely accepted definition of "Almas" fits perfectly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almas_(folklore) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9744565

Yes, but I would counter that with how many Cougar have you seen in your lifetime? I have spent a lifetime in the woods and have seen very few. Probably as many Cougar as some people have seen Bigfoot. And yet a Cougar isn’t as smart a Gorilla or a Chimp or a Orang. All three have been taught sign language. So how much intelligence do you need to be a forest Ninja? As far as the Mick Dodge types? Yah we have a legend here of “Wolf people”. Feral people that run around barefoot and howl like Wolves. This was told to me by a buddy that was a USAF survival instructor at Tacoma creek. I am not denying that Homo Sapiens can go feral. But even Mick Dodge sneaks into town for a burger now and again. He isn’t a new species. He hasn’t developed into Patty. A quick shave and a change of clothes and you can put him in an elevator with others. So how many generations of Mick Dodge do you need to create a Bigfoot? My guess is zero. Because ultimately they would die out. Here is another example. A chihuahua 20,000 years ago was a Timber Wolf. If you kicked a family of chihuahuas into the wilds of Siberia? How many generations would it take before they looked like Timber Wolves again? My guess is zero. Because they wouldn’t make it. Bigfoot most definitely is a human cousin. It’s bipedal. Females have breasts. It’s an omnivore. But that’s where the similarities end. Well that’s well past the Hominin range and could easily place it in the Hominid range. I mean we are slicing hairs here. A Chimp is 98% the same as a Homo Sapien. So we are haggling over 2%. Obviously a Bigfoot is more closely related to Homo Sapiens than a Chimp is. Unless some sort of convergent evolution is going on. But a Denisovan is a species of human so closely related to Homo Sapiens it interbred with us and had viable offspring with us. And that blood line continues to this day in certain human populations. I don’t believe that Bigfoot had that option. And there are plenty of Indian stories claiming they have tried. We are morphologically too far separated as two distinct species to make viable offspring. Which is bad news for the NFL. Bigfooters kinda want their cake and eat it too. The storyline of Bigfoot being this super intelligent forest shaman that has stuck its nose up at modern technology is a very popular point of view. I just don’t find it very realistic. Bigfoot doesn’t make stone tools the same way a Chimp doesn’t make stone tools. It lacks the cognitive ability and probably the fine grasping skills to flake a Clovis point. It can pick up rocks and smash them together or breaks nuts. But beyond that? It doesn’t think about it.

As a species, we have massive amounts of hubris. That's typically what gets us in trouble.

I don't buy Denisovan tool usage as a 100% established fact. I understand that it may be the current thinking, but it's based on some assumptions. Like I mentioned before, the sites that Denisovan "tools" have been found at were also occupied by Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens and science can't say with absolute certainty that Denisovans made those tools. Many scientists are very quick to assign tool usage to any newly-discovered "homo" species. Maybe too quick. I seem to recall reading an article in the recent past where one group of scientists discovered "tools" in a cave habituated by a hominid group (can't remember which one) only to have another group of scientists brand them "interesting looking rocks, but likely not tools." I'm not saying Denisovans didn't make tools, jewelry, etc. Perhaps some of them did (maybe those groups had contact with Neanderthals and/or Homo Sapiens?). Perhaps there were groups isolated from other Denisovan groups (and other hominids) who didn't. The fossil record is still too tiny to make too many assumptions.

The "official" record of feral people seems to be individual cases. HOWEVER, sightings and stories of feral GROUPS of individuals are persistent, particularly in the Smoky Mountains region. I seem to recall even reading some reasonably credible reports from park-official types. Some of these reports seem to also mirror Bigfoot sightings. The mythology in the area claims that these feral-types are descendants of people who once settled in the area and were displaced by the creation of the National Park. They refused to leave the area and have to hide. I'm not sure where I stand yet on feral people, but I certainly don't discount the possibility. I think we've seen some recent CRAZY discoveries in the world of anthropology. I believe that most human-type species are capable of things we can't even imagine. A big and complex brain that's good at making tools, ALSO may be good at being the supreme ninja of the forest and appearing as a "ghost" to other human-types.

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Our best technology can’t even get a simple picture of it. Maybe it’s a ghost.

Ah. Are you familiar with the theory of Punctuaded Equilibrium? https://www.britannica.com/science/punctuated-equilibrium-model

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I believe that this is EXACTLY the argument being made. It's NOT that a theoretical large tribe of Denisovans that had been using tools for thousands of years just collectively voted that it was better for their survival to stop tool use cold-turkey. It's that a very early, isolated group of them never fully-adopted tool use (or hadn't developed it to the level of others), and because of their isolation developed other methods of survival. It also helped them to "avoid" other human-species groups which worked for them.

I really want to visit Washington state!!! Maybe for a few months.... Thing is, I am in the UK!

Pretty impressive. No wonder there are so few of them, and that explains (at least to me) why I found it's sign in California and never in Alaska.

No, I didn't. I will agree, however, that there is no evidence of sasquatch tool making. And since Dragon Man was not found with tools, he didn't't make them, either. Fair? I'm talking about sasquatches. My DNA is half sub-Saharan African, so I'm more sapiens than you, and less Neanderthal. But I often wish I was feral.

In the fossil record, they don't exist, because there's nothing in a bone that proves feral. But there are statistically feral Sapiens out there, on every continent, right now.

No. I don't know how their species evolved. I'm just confident that (1) they existed, (2) they still exist, and (3) they're probably "human".

But at some point cultural drift turns into real morphology problems. I am willing to accept small variations. Like we forgot to make bows and arrows so we went back to spears. But not cooking food after your species has adapted to it biologically speaking? Or sleeping on the ground in snow when your ancestors built fires and took shelter? I don’t think it’s very realistic in the Congo or Borneo. And I think it’s suicidal in Alaska or Siberia. Our Homo ancestors evolved chasing down game on the Serengeti. We sweat in the noon day sun. That’s our superpower. In order to leave Africa we had to get crafty. Homo Heidelbergensis had hide scrapers. They were making clothes. They had fires. They lived in caves. Basically we are talking about a Sub Arctic Mountain Gorilla that’s bipedal and hunts with its two hands only. It doesn’t use fire. It doesn’t make stone tools. It doesn’t need caves to survive. And because it doesn’t hibernate like a Bear? It’s taking the brunt of Mother Nature 12 months out of the year. But it’s also intelligent enough that it stays hidden, bury its dead and has never ate bananas at a zoo in front of a audience. Does anyone have a sliding scale for ancient hominins or hominids fossil record?

Perhaps 'reverse evolution' is not exactly the correct term, however, consider this: 'Isolated Relic Populations: As modern humans spread across Asia, small pockets of Denisovans may have been pushed into remote mountains, dense forests, or isolated islands. Living cut off from larger groups, these isolated bands might have experienced changes in behavior or a loss of complex toolmaking skills simply due to smaller group sizes—a phenomenon anthropologists call cultural drift.'

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There must be a food source, maybe small fish etc.

You have already said that Sasquatch and its ancestors never used tools. So Denisovans are off the table. And I would be more than happy to hear your theory on what Hominin you are talking about. Most of us do. Only sub Saharan Africans are not hybridized with either Neanderthals or Denisovans.