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Not sure if this story is related to the other one just published; I'm clipping and posting so fast, I have little time to analyze. Who among us haven't confused a 14-year-old Chow for a gorilla or a Bigfoot? Published in the Washington Daily News on August 7, 1957

Another story, this time from the York (PA) Dispatch investigated by Robert Chance, high school teacher and Bigfoot investigator.

While I despise* The Making of Bigfoot - The Inside Story by Greg Long, the book does contain new and firsthand information relevant to the question of whether Roger Patterson, with or without Bob Gimlin's help, faked the P-G film. His interviews of Roger's brothers Glenn, Lester, and Loren - at pages 63 to 84 - offer a great deal of insight into the man behind the camera. For example: Glenn Patterson describes in detail just what a talented artist Roger was (although he mentions nothing about tailoring, tanning hides, or costume creation) Les Patterson noted that while Roger didn't become a self-made millionaire like he hoped, "he didn't die a pauper either" Loren Patterson revealed that Roger could carry 100 pounds in each hand, supporting the weight with only one finger I'm sure anyone who wants to read this book can find it on Amazon or their public library. Although I'm going to have to go through the whole book again, I'd rather have a root canal and a colonoscopy at the same time. *NOTE: I don't begrudge Greg Long his conclusions, but I have no time for the saintly journalistic aura he paints of himself as if interviewing Al DeAtley was the equivalent of being a member of the Resistance in WW II. Nor do I have patience for his clear view of himself as superior to folks who work for a living or make mistakes in life and who don't meet Long's standard of being "proper." Kicking the ghost of a dead man makes everyone who reads the book dumber; he deserves no points for this book, and may whatever god he believes in have mercy on his sole.

What happens when a group of friends sneaks past locked gates into one of Oregon’s most mysterious forests — and ends up face-to-face with something that isn’t supposed to exist? In this chilling episode, we sit down with Cam, a lifelong local of the Molalla region, to hear his firsthand account of a December 2023 camping trip gone horribly wrong. From eerie “hoo” calls in the treetops and snapping branches closing in, to a massive dog-like predator charging out of the darkness, this night spiraled into something no one could explain. Cam also reveals strange footprints, portal-like anomalies near ancient waterfalls, and centuries-old Native legends of giants, stick people, and buried bones sent to the Smithsonian. You’ll hear stories stretching from Point Adams to Tillamook, woven with history, mystery, and moments of pure terror. 🗣️ Share Your Story Had a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience? Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show! 🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube 🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube 💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts! 📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed) 👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share 🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist 🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters 💥 Support the Show & Get Perks ✅ Join the community on Patreon – Become a Member ✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here 📱 Let’s Connect Instagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links) These help support the show at no extra cost to you: Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for less http://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools: Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon ☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here 🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy 📬 Mailing Address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072 📧 Business Inquiries: bigfootsociety@gmail.com Listen to the Podcast

No, times have changed. Photographic evidence isn't going to cut it.............

I represent that remark!

I had forgotten that this was a two-part story. While looking for old reports from Ohio that Tirademan had found (which I never found), I came across the first half of the story, printed in the Cleveland (OH) Evening Post on June 23, 1868. As everyone probably guessed, a four-year-old child who wandered off while visiting the islands years ago had since grown to an 8-foot tall, hair-covered man.

Such BS! Yes you are a victim of theft.

Fifty years of lawyers have changed everything. Now police reports are like classified information. I had some firearms stolen in California a few years ago, and after recovering yet another gun, one police department is refusing to give me the police report on the recovery incident......and this after paying for the report. They say that I "have to be a victim" in order to get the report.........as if getting my firearms stolen doesn't make me a "victim".

^^^ I wonder what LEOs would do if those same reports came in today. Probably arrest the witness for making a false emergency call, or explain that they just misidentified a nine-foot tall plume of swamp gas or Venus low on the horizon.

Exactly, and perfectly explained. This is true today, but back in the '70's and 80's, county sheriffs and deputies (particularly in southern Washington counties) who responded to calls dutifully filed police reports on their findings. http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=2599 http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=1620 https://www.facebook.com/groups/BFRO.group/posts/10159438079950169/ https://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=13653 http://www.bigfootencounters.com/interviews/graysharbor.htm

Nothing that dramatic. Employee X, you are reminded that you are not permitted to speak as to the official government position. You may talk all you want about Bigfoot, Bigfoot, Bigfoot, but you must make clear that all opinions expressed in this interview, podcast, blog, etc., represent your personal views and do not represent the official view of the U.S. Forest Service, the U.S government, or any U.S. government agency. These are standard instructions for federal employees engaging in outside employment or volunteer work or outside speaking engagements (e.g., acting as an adjunct professor at a local college). Failure to follow those instructions may result in a wide range of disciplinary actions, ranging from an oral or written reprimand to being fired, depending on the nature of the violation. So Employee X is not fired because he says "Bigfoot is real," he's fired for ignoring the instructions or directions given him by his supervisor. I don't know of any case directly on point, but law enforcement personnel would want to remain silent to avoid being impaired during future testimony. For example, if FBI investigator Y states on live TV, "I saw Bigfoot run across the road in front of my official vehicle," that statement will be used to impeach that investigator every time she testifies. So, at most a smart investigator would say, "Well, something ran in front of my vehicle, but I was not able to identify the animal." Not saying that either of the above is fair, but that's what would happen. +++++++++++++++++++++++ Norse, okay, thanks, I see what you were getting at now.

I find parallels with the push back on your post of a Virginia forest ranger or employee and science in general in my post. Look at this.

If you high up in the federal forest service in Washington DDC and a forest service biologist starts reporting on his bigfoot experiences while on the job, what do you think is going to be the standard reaction? "The US Forest Service's official stance on Bigfoot is that it's a creature of folklore and urban legend, though they have engaged in some playful acknowledgements of the creature." Your fired or you may have a deadly accident.

The Forest Service's own opinion as of this year is as follows: "The US Forest Service's official stance on Bigfoot is that it's a creature of folklore and urban legend, though they have engaged in some playful acknowledgements of the creature."

Bob Gimlin Interview by Brian Christopher (KLOA radio) October 31, 1991 Archived by Todd Prescott YouTube Auto-Transcription edited by Trogluddite August 2025 Honestly, I'm not sure if this qualifies as an interview; it almost sounds like KLOA did outtakes from some other audiotape. That being said, I'm not trying to run that down. Almost 20 years went by between the last interview of Roger Patterson and the next interview of Bob Gimlin. Transcript 1991 Gimlin Christopher Interview.docx [1] www.youtube.com/watch?v=piPtJW29eqU&list=PLjFAlQsZxKf-SoBk_Vn7mVqs0i07Y9Osl&index=1&t=12s

If the federal government calls bigfoot a mythical creature how long do you think some Joe Blow is going to be showing off his real bigfoot until the feds show up, take his computer, replace the body with a fake bigfoot and fine or imprison Joe? The feds know all about bigfoot.

^^ I'm thinking that you quoted the wrong thing or put in the wrong reply in response to my post. I'm very confused.

You should listen to Meldrum’s take on the Sykes study! Dishonest at best! And Meldrum offered help in vetting samples. Nope. They published all the misidentifications, and didn’t publish the inconclusive ones. Meldrum already told Sykes the problem with Bigfoot hairs. They lack a medulla. So basically the Sykes study side steps the hard question. And published the low hanging fruit. Gee thanks!🤔

The firsthand account, as written by Roger in one of his newsletters for the Northwest Research Association. Additional copies of this newsletter, as well as other research, can be found in the Bigfoot Forum Library at https://bigfootforums.com/forum/154-bff-library/.

George Haas (RIP) was one of the founders of what may have been the very first Bigfoot research organization or group in the United States, the Bay Area Group. Haas's research notes were saved from obscurity by Daniel Perez, who now possesses many of the Bay Area Group's original documents. Haas and several others visited the Patterson-Gimlin film site in June, 1968. Prepared less than a year after the original encounter, Haas's notes are an invaluable source of information on the general conditions at the site as it existed reasonably close to the time of the encounter. His notes are included in Bigfoot at Bluff Creek: A Pictorial Discussion by Daniel Perez at pp. 6-18. For information on George Haas and the Bay area group, see https://bigfootforums.com/forum/200-the-bay-area-group-bigfoot-bulletin/. To see where you can buy the book, visit the Bigfoot Forums Marketplace at https://bigfootforums.com/forum/50-the-bff-marketplace/.

I was just listening to episode 180 of Bigfoot & Beyond. Can't give you a time mark as I was otherwise engaged, but the guest, Joe Perdue, discusses being an employee of a West Virginia government agency (probably state parks or DEC) and discusses his supervisors' reaction too, and limitations on, Bigfooting on the job. Basically, he could not initiate any Bigfoot discussions and if sightings were reported to him, he could take the reports for his own personal use, but they didn't want them as official records, such as injury reports at the park, bear sightings, etc.