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But at some point cultural drift turns into real morphology problems. I am willing to accept small variations. Like we forgot to make bows and arrows so we went back to spears. But not cooking food after your species has adapted to it biologically speaking? Or sleeping on the ground in snow when your ancestors built fires and took shelter? I don’t think it’s very realistic in the Congo or Borneo. And I think it’s suicidal in Alaska or Siberia. Our Homo ancestors evolved chasing down game on the Serengeti. We sweat in the noon day sun. That’s our superpower. In order to leave Africa we had to get crafty. Homo Heidelbergensis had hide scrapers. They were making clothes. They had fires. They lived in caves. Basically we are talking about a Sub Arctic Mountain Gorilla that’s bipedal and hunts with its two hands only. It doesn’t use fire. It doesn’t make stone tools. It doesn’t need caves to survive. And because it doesn’t hibernate like a Bear? It’s taking the brunt of Mother Nature 12 months out of the year. But it’s also intelligent enough that it stays hidden, bury its dead and has never ate bananas at a zoo in front of a audience. Does anyone have a sliding scale for ancient hominins or hominids fossil record?

Perhaps 'reverse evolution' is not exactly the correct term, however, consider this: 'Isolated Relic Populations: As modern humans spread across Asia, small pockets of Denisovans may have been pushed into remote mountains, dense forests, or isolated islands. Living cut off from larger groups, these isolated bands might have experienced changes in behavior or a loss of complex toolmaking skills simply due to smaller group sizes—a phenomenon anthropologists call cultural drift.'

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There must be a food source, maybe small fish etc.

You have already said that Sasquatch and its ancestors never used tools. So Denisovans are off the table. And I would be more than happy to hear your theory on what Hominin you are talking about. Most of us do. Only sub Saharan Africans are not hybridized with either Neanderthals or Denisovans.

In the great course of things, and especially in the fossil record, feral probably don't leave a mark.

Then you agree they are not Denisovans? Again you’re talking about individuals. We are talking through satellites in space. So I am assuming you’re not feral either. And so is 99.9 % of humanity. My light switch flipped on other wise I would be trying to talk to you by smoke signals.

Correct. We're talking about an incredibly rare species of human. Not individual, but certainly not a society. And its appears they like it that way. I don't think it's an earlier branch of hominid. I think it's the evolved species of a branch of hominin. Not all of us. Some of us do.

You're reversing evolution. If these creatures exist, they never used tools. Ever. There are a lot of people out there who do things that you may never even want to do. You might even dislike the way they do things. Why doesn't your light switch on? Because you don't want it to.

My sneaking suspicion is that if they could have they would have. As modern humans have both Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA in us.

As an individual yes. But we are not talking about an abandoned Homo Sapiens child being raised by wolves. As a species? Of course as you go back in time the more feral we become. Which is why I think Bigfoot is an earlier branch of hominid. But this isn’t by choice or a cruel twist of fate.

I doubt native Americans were stupid enough to teach sasquatches how to build stone knives, bows, and arrows 10,000 years ago.

Feral people have been a thing from the beginning.

Well let’s say that did happen. A break away group of Denisovans dropped their stone tools, left their warm hearths and just walked into the wilderness. The elders of the group have made a pact to become feral. How would they make it stick? Great great grandson is out picking berries and watches a group of Neanderthals or other Denisovans kill an Elk using spears. How does the light bulb not go on?

Events just couldn't occur that way. Denisovans were spread, geographically, what? Over a third of the globe? And existed temporally for hundreds of thousands of years. If I'm understanding what you're trying to say (and I can be hopelessly incorrect often,) there had to be a collective decision to forgo tools. Do I have that right? Forgive me if I don't. But if that's the case, it simply couldn't work that way. (Excuse me, I haven't watched the video, as I think associating Denisovans with bigfoot is, frankly, silly. No offense intended.)

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Well we are now on the subject of the Ebu Gogo! How long does it take for a species to shrink to a island? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insular_dwarfism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_floresiensis I enjoy it very much! Thanks!

Here is another example maybe most don’t think of. Two Homo Sapiens separated by 12000 years? (This number is rapidly going older, but for sake of argument I will stick with the traditional number) Within the span of 100 years? Native Americans are quickly adopting Horses, Guns, Steel knives, Iron cookware, mirrors, etc. They cannot make any of the trade items themselves. And yet they forsake traditional methods and begin seeking to acquire the trade goods. They are not using rifles as teepee stakes or steel knives as door stops. That’s because despite being cutoff from mainstream human technological advancements. They are not dumb people. They see the technology for what it is and incorporate it into their lives. I am going to go out on a limb and say that if North America was populated by Paranthropus Robustus? This quick assimilation to these trade items just simply would not have occurred. Many tales of the Ebu Gogo, I just posted a video of a man who was studying the myth before the discovery. One of the stories as told by Flores natives is some hobbits (as they are now known) came into camp one night. The villagers fed them dinner on plates. When the hobbits got done with the dinner they tried to eat the plates….. Many stories about Bigfoot as well that are similar. One that sticks in my mind is a miner in California had noticed that his camp was being messed with. So one morning he left camp as usual and then snuck back and hide and observed it. A Bigfoot came into camp and began playing with the fire like a child would. Very curious but at the same time just inept with the concept.

I guess I'm just less inclined to accept what we think we know about early hominims and their development. So much has changed so drastically and so fast - and I think it will continue to do so. I also tend to believe that body morphology can change more quickly and drastically than we might imagine with human (or human-like) populations that are isolated and stressed. I understand where you're coming from though and I enjoy these thought experiments as well!

I'm not sure we know enough about early hominim development to make any statements with such certainty, but I'm sure that sounds logical to many. However, I don't think that's really the argument. It's more complicated than that. I think it's all about survival strategies in hostile environments and what options creatures with human-sized brains have. I'd bet they have more options than we can imagine.

A species of human could no more consciously decide to stop using/manufacturing tools than a leopard can change its spots.

They seem to walk through snow like it’s a field of clover, obviously it doesn’t bother them. All wildlife is perfectly home in their environment, which includes rain.

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