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^^ Agree with this sentiment 100% - they had bodies of spotted owls, thus declared them a species. They had bodies of whatever smelt or fish that they used to shut down most of the water in California, thus they could declare them a species. No amount of casts, videos, or testimony will cause science or the government to recognize this species, not because those things are inherently worthless, but they are insufficient to support a scientific conclusion.

I don't believe that. Norse is 100% correct: It has to be a carcass, and delivered........to somebody........ Photographic evidence is as worthless as testimony. If the Patterson film, complete with casted footprint evidence, site visits by several independent parties afterwards, and in a location with a 12 year history of footprints (that exact size and shape) and sightings isn't enough to get government or Science to invest a hoot, forget photography.

Published in the Ventura County (CA) Star on November 3, 1967. As this was an Associated Press story, it's likely found in some other newspapers as well.

You didn’t bring up UFOs, but you also didn’t grasp why I brought up UFOs, or you did and chose to misrepresent my position.🤷‍♂️ My position and comparison. If UFOs are real? (Which they are, the pre Sputnik observatory plates prove this) There is a zero percent chance the government hasn’t detected them. Which logically also applies to a 800 lbs primate walking across international borders, bombing ranges, national parks, etc. 37 trillion dollars buys a lot of hardware. So if what I say is true? Then how is the government not lying? And I also disagree that cell phones are gonna crack anything. It’s just another crummy blurry video to add to the heap. And the local Forest Ranger will laugh about it and call it a man in a Gorilla suit. It’s the same tactic as calling a UFO “swamp gas”. You ask why the government lies. This seems to be the lynchpin to your belief. You cannot fathom why the government would lie about some unknown creature. Well I would first state that Bigfoot is the all time hide and seek champion. So something is obviously different about this creature vs a mountain gorilla or a bear or even a cougar. Huntster brings up that it’s probably human. I don’t know if this is true or not from a scientific point of view. But it certainly looks more like us than any great ape. This may very well be a can of worms the government doesn’t want opened especially with its historical relationship to native Americans. My .02 cents? The government never admits it doesn’t have control. So they are never gonna say that they cannot control their own airspace, anymore than they are gonna admit that they cannot control their own parks. They would rather badger witnesses and continue a false narrative while putting the general public at risk. Anyone reading this? I would advise people to look at other subjects that deal with the federal government. You will start connecting the dots. Unfortunately…. I know it’s a tough pill to swallow.

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I thought I would mention I wasn't the one who brought up UFO's Back to lying: There is no doubt people and organizations lie for a whole variety of reasons. You mention Whistleblowers. Since Whistleblower are also people, sometimes Whistleblowers are liars as well. They are not immune to lying. Bigfoot is the issue. Lying about Bigfoot would assume the person/ organization doing the lying is 1) aware of some truth about bigfoot and 2) actively chooses to misrepresent the truth. Could be. Just because I don't believe that doesn't mean I close the door to the possibly. If Bigfoot IS being kept quiet by the government, I'm betting it is just a matter of time before the cell phone blows the cover of any cover-up. Things happen too fast in real time now. Unlike the old days no one has to get the camera. They always have a camera, video, social media, and telephone with them at all times. Imagine some scenario where bigfoot is hit by someone's truck. It's everywhere on social media before the sheriff arrives.

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Thanks for the accurate comment Norseman and MIB. Read below some facts about America's declining timber industry and what Trump is doing to get rid of many timber production regulations by signing executive order 14225. If bigfoot is ever labeled as an endangered species will it shut down logging. Bigfoot probably likes logging because bigfoot eats deer feeding in clear cuts where brush and berries flourish in sunlight. "Mar 15, 2025 · The U.S. imports roughly 25% to 30% of the lumber it consumes each year. Up to 90% comes from Canada." google "We rely on lumber from Canada because the U.S. cannot supply enough softwood to meet its own demand, and Canada is one of the largest softwood producers in the world. While it might be possible to switch to importing more lumber from other countries, none has Canada’s large production capacity." google Is the timber industry over regulated? Executive Order 14225—Immediate Expansion of American Timber Production | The American Presidency Project "Sec. 3. Streamlined Permitting. All relevant agencies shall eliminate, to the maximum extent permissible by law, all undue delays within their respective permitting processes related to timber production. Additionally, all relevant agencies shall take all necessary and appropriate steps consistent with applicable law to suspend, revise, or rescind all existing regulations, orders, guidance documents, policies, settlements, consent orders, and other agency actions that impose an undue burden on timber production." executive order Does this mean the endangered species act will be watered down?

People should heed this .. you speak the truth. The mills here that relied on timber harvest from USFS lands are gone. We had over 20 in the Rogue Valley that were the backbone of the local economy (along with orchards). None of those remain. The only mills I still see open rely on harvest from private timberlands and a small bit of BLM which is part of the old O&C Railroad land thus managed as private. Those mills are not here, they're on the other side of the Cascades in Klamath County. SW Oregon has taken an economic beating. MIB

Published Monday, January 17, 1972, in the Tri-City Herald, Pasco (WA).

^^ Funny, I think aliens traveling near earth (if they exist) see us as the microbes in the petri dish.

^^^ Various levels of concern for various forms of life: No concern Hardly any concern Concern and sympathy High level of concern and sympathy Very high level of concern. "Hey that better be safe and that better not hurt!" Maybe the one thing that might save Bigfoot from extinction is the fact it looks like us and not a snake.

Published in the Hazleton (PA) Sentinel on November 23, 1883. Hard one to read regardless of whether this was a Bigfoot or a human.

I thought of it in the same way for decades, even though the Aboriginal American description of sasquatches has always been that of being "people" of a different race. I turned when considering the repeated phenomenon of DNA samples coming back "human", and the Sierra Sounds being a "language". It also fits the current theories of multi-human species of the relatively recent past with Neanderthals, Denisovans, and Hobbits. It all fits. And when I turned from manlike-ape to apelike-man, there was no turning back.

So, boring warning. Went to a woo location so no need bothering this forum with that. However great riparian area with at least one class a sighting. A cyclone blew up leading to cloud walls forming over highlands with dangerous winds for prolonged period and occasional explosive lightning. This area is known for this although it was leaving my area of interest. There seems to be an immense awareness even among th locals that there is something different up here. A lone sasquatch of immense powers (which is the woo part). Led to a prolonged sighting at close range elsewhere in the same season. He has been up there likely hundreds of years or, just that a lone male sas. is always living up there. Been up several times as I regained interest, East coast. Found clear evidence of something, this guy like to hide near a main artery and people watch. Somewhat degraded from way back when where I had an interaction. On a cycle trail with bluffs to hide under, over. I found 4-5 wide paths stamped into hiding locations near the trail (also lot of illegals patrols in the area, constantly) stamped into mud and dead ending about 25 to 35+ ft into rich riperian repasts. Also, a sleeping pad about 10X10 ft square, may have been machine cleared but smooth and not one twig, level right next to trail. Perfect for a large hominid to rest in unobserved but near traffic. Like to be out at night in the fields and woods under a full moon. Spring is probably the best time or late winter. Near another area as well even another in Whitehall NY, those are different and seem to be family subgroups seasonal traveling betwee ranges, upland and low land remote areas well protected.

I'll provide the provenance of this clipping if I run across it again. It is included in Bigfoot in Pennsylvania by Timothy Renner.

I confess I have NEVER considered Bigfoot any kind of "Human". I never thought of Bigfoot as a ape-like MAN. I have always thought of Bigfoot as a man-like APE. Because of this, I have never really considered any ramifications of bigfoot being essentially human. If I gave it some deeper thought, I honestly don't know what I would believe about how it would affect government, society, laws, and so on. It could very well change my mind. Coming from the Bigfoot-is-an-animal mindset, it makes sense how I- and anyone who sees Bigfoot the same way- could dismiss any high level of concern government and Bigfoot. Anyone with my bias is going to conclude the same thing. I never really considered another possibility.

Published in Raftsman's Journal, Clearfield (PA) on September 27, 1865. This typical old story makes it unclear whether a wild man was actually discovered (and then used as political fodder) or whether the "wild man" was made up to be used as political fodder. Nice artwork for the masthead, though.

Published in the National Wildlife Magazine, Vol. 6, No. 3 (April May, 1968) article written by Dick Kirkpatrick, Executive Editor. While the text of this article can be found on several sites, the attached document came straight from the vaults of the National Wildlife Foundation. Much to my surprise, they had this back copy and were very generous in having someone scan it. Forum Member Bill (Munns) passed on a newspaper article from 1970 found by his fellow researcher, SquatchD. I've included that clipping from the Wilmington (DE) Morning News here rather than give it a separate entry because it it primarily serves to bolster this article rather than shed direct light on the P-G film. The lead to the National Wildlife Magazine article The Lie Detector Test Mention (published October 31, 1970) AM 1968 The Search for Bigfoot.pdf

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It’s my experience that most mills in the USA have shut down. Most lumber comes from Canada right now. My home county is very lucky with four mills. But most are lucky to have one mill. I drove through Whitefish Montana recently. It’s all looking like Aspen Colorado now. Posh. Pricey. No longer logger based. https://www.mtpr.org/2024-04-18/lumber-mill-closure-leaves-seeley-lake-wrestling-with-a-timberless-future The reason is in a large part because areas that own private forests can sustain themselves. Those that rely on federal timber sales? Are gone. The only exception I know of is down by Headquarters Idaho. That Forest seems to be pro logging to this day. Why? I dunno. But I agree with you that if Bigfoot hunts Deer? Deer like logging cuts and burns. They like tender browse.