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So far the only need demonstrated in this thread is a need to disparage Lazar.

I was lucky enough to be raised on a ranch in NE Washington. We moved there when I was 5 from Snohomish, where it rained all the time. Most nights were clear and the stars sparkled. And I have seen more UFOs than I can count. Most look just like a shooting star except they make turns. No noise. Sometimes they hover in one spot before shooting off. Sometimes they just move slowly along the horizon. I even had a daytime sighting while Elk hunting. It was a silver cigar shaped craft that was traveling east to west. No noise. No wings. No contrail. We see jets all the time. Whidbey Island NAS loves playing on the upper Columbia. The refuelers are always looping up by the Canadian border from Fairchild AFB. You always hear noise. Typically I hear them before I see them. I don’t think the ranch is some UFO hotspot. I just think that most humans don’t bother to look up. Or they don’t live in a remote place with no night lights. UFO researchers now have built a system to record UFOs that fly through the night sky. It also has a flight identification if the object being tracked is a normal aircraft. https://www.space.com/spotting-ufos-sky-hub-surveillance Anyhow I have made my point from my perspective. Many similarities I have observed from one mystery to the next. I won’t derail this thread anymore. There is a Lazar thread in the UFO section if we wanna talk more.

Supposedly neither. He was brought in because he showed aptitude in building jet propulsion cars on his own dime and time for fun. This sounds just like Uncle Sam: when the pinheads can't get it done, bring in somebody who might. Element 115. Moscovium. It was first synthesized in 2003 by a joint Russian-American team at the Joint Institute for Nuclear Research (JINR) in Dubna, Russia. Due to its radioactive nature and instability, it does not occur naturally and is only used for scientific study. I don't know when Lazar first cited E115, but it was well before 2003. E115 has still not been stabilized. Again, I still don't know what to make of Bob Lazar. In 1974, while on active duty, an Army major told me some wild stuff that was supposedly going on at Wright-Patterson. I thought he was pulling my leg. Years later, the same rumors were widespread, but the Wright-Patt activity had been moved to Nevada. Entertaining, but I await something more than testimony and physical evidence that never gets materialized.

Janitor or Physicist at S4 at area 51? How does Lazar know about a stable element 113? Before its ever discovered and placed on our periodic table? And how does he know where to stand and film test flights? This is long before anyone knew anything about Area 51.

Sorry. Bob Lazar is Roger Patterson in this comparison. Both witnesses. People like Heronimous are coming forward to attack the character of the witnesses. Stan Friedman would be a Bob H. In Ufology. Its a trick we see over and over again. How long did you fight with Kitakaze on this very forum? They cannot attack the evidence so they attack a persons character. Well if any one of us got the spotlight shown in our direction? Probably no one isn't going to have a few skeletons in their closet. And Patterson and Lazar are two such individuals that had plenty. But it doesn't change what they witnessed. My viewpoint can change if it’s convincing enough evidence.

Tonight’s guest, Donna Copas, has being interacting with Sasquatch since she was 6 years old. Donna doesn’t call them Sasquatch, however. She calls them the Watchers, due to her being of Shawnee descent. You see, when Donna was only 6 years old, her dad took her into the woods with him, to dig for yellow root. Her dad was always heading into the woods to harvest ginseng, yellow root, and other things. That day, after digging up some yellow root, her dad stood up, walked over to a nearby stump, and pulled out some tobacco. He then proceeded to put the tobacco on the stump and walked away from the stump. Not long after he did that, Donna saw a huge figure stand up, close to the stump and walk over to it, to retrieve the tobacco. Naturally, Donna had a ton of questions for her dad about what she was looking at. That’s when her dad told her not to worry. He told her that he was just a Watcher and that he wouldn’t hurt her. That event marked the beginning of her dad teaching her about the Watchers and she’s been interacting with them ever since. We hope you’ll tune in and listen to Donna share some of her many experiences with them. If you’ve had a Bigfoot sighting and would like to be a guest on the show, please go to BigfootEyewitness.com and let me know. If you’d like to help support the show, by buying your own Bigfoot Eyewitness t-shirt or sweatshirt, please visit the Bigfoot Eyewitness Show Store, by going to https://Dogman-Encounters.MyShopify.com I produce 4 other shows that are available on your favorite podcast app. If you haven't checked them out, here are links to all 4 channels on the Spreaker App... My Bigfoot Sighting https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-bigfoot-sighting Dogman Tales https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/dogman-tales--6640134 Dogman Encounters https://www.spreaker.com/show/dogman-encounters-radio_2 My Paranormal Experience https://www.spreaker.com/show/my-paranormal-experience Thanks, as always, for listening! Listen to the Podcast

Hey there all, Idahoan here with a love for the outdoors. I've been interested in Sasquatch for probably a decade. I try to keep my eyes & ears open when hunting, fishing, camping, & hiking. I've never had a class A experience but I've definitely heard some weird things in the woods. Bigfoot podcasts are my ideal listening when going to sleep at night.

OK I'll try. Let me start by saying I do not believe we are being visited by Aliens. I can give all the reasons why I don't think so. Since I don't think so, I obviously don't believe stories of anyone who claims Hollywood style Alien encounters. There may or may not be life out there, but I don't happen to believe it is visiting earth. On the issue of Bob Lazar, I would have to put those feelings aside and try to weigh Bob Lazar's story. This would all come down to credibility of the one making the claim. If there are big holes in someone's story the objective person seeking the truth would weigh that out. Those want to believe it, need to believe it, want it to be true bad enough will overlook those weaknesses. That makes them less objective and very likely to make excuses for the one making the claim. It's like Linus in the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown: "PS If you aren't real don't tell me, I don't want to know" Education: A person's skill set would match the job they had. Thus, if the government is working on Alien space craft only top-notch people would get access to it. For Bob Lazar to be one of these people working on a secret Alien propulsion system he would have to have credentials to be at a level to be considered. Provable credentials. Sure, they probably need janitors at Area 51 as well. Bob L is not claiming to be a janitor. He is claiming to be a scientist allowed to work on Alien space craft propulsion systems. After all, the government can get anyone they want. Sit down Einstein, Oppenheimer, Bohr. Von Braun, We got our guy, and his name is Bob Lazar. The claims Bob Lazar makes on having the training and education he claims don't add up. Translation: it isn't true. This alone is enough to make it clear he would NEVER be near the job he claims to have. Bob Lazar claims somehow; someone scrubbed his college records and essentially any and all proof he attended MIT and Cal Tech. Where are his Diplomas (plural) on the wall? There are no photographs of him in an office with these degrees on the wall. He can't name professors who he claims taught him He can't name all kinds of things easy for anyone who went there to be able to identify. Where is his name in a graduation roster at Graduation? Where are the W2s from his work? We know those in the military have admitted in the freedom of information act the government found it useful during the cold war to propagate stories of Aliens as cover for work on the U2, the flight or Stealth aircraft and so on. It is even remotely possible the government hired /conspired with Bob to tell Alien stories to as a further use to propagate Alien stories and freak our enemies. I don't believe that at all but at least it is possible. It is also possible they found him to be a useful unwitting tool as someone telling stories which serve the military's own intentions of propagating stories though completely uncoordinated in any way with Lazar. Bob may have worked for a company tied into military contracts and maybe even worked as some lower-level employee at Area 51. If he did, he was just working at a Military base. So what? This should be enough, but I would be glad to address more points if you need me to. In summary. If Bob L claimed ONLY he graduated from MIT and Cal Tech, he can't even prove that.

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On what basis? I have never once believed Bob Heironimus. There won't be a post on the BFF where I ever said I support or believe Bob Heironimus. I must just be misreading what you are getting at here and If I am I am sorry. Bob L. -------------------------------------- I am reluctant to go into much detail on a point-by-point basis on this subject after reading your post. It is pretty clear to me you have a view which not only won't change but seems like it is constructed in such a way to be defeating to any other viewpoint. If I could show you an area where you are wrong, I suspect you would just explain it away. I will try to address the Bob L. subject generically responding to the Bob L. video on Rogan.

The Mat-Su Miners beat the Anchorage Bucs last night 11-9 in Anchorage. It was a great game! It doesn't. The light came on for me a few years ago, and I can't go back. IF sasquatches exist, elements of government knows it. Regarding the UFO analogies: I have significant problems accepting alien life visiting Earth. I do not discount it completely, but almost. But one of the most interesting UFO stories to me is the Bob Lazar story. I don't know what to think of him.................so I don't. I wait. Alien visitors present significant scientific problems to explain. Not so Sasquatches. We know Sasquatch type creatures have existed in the past. The only problem is a lack off fossil evidence over the past dozen or so thousand years, and the fact that nobody is producing a body today. Both problems have very reasonable explanations. Regarding government laissez-faire approach to sasquatchery: I understand, and I agree with them. My Dad said this to me after he brought the Argosy magazine home in 1967 featuring the PG filming event: The best thing for these creatures is for them to be left alone. And ignorance of them (or promoting them as a myth) on the part of the public is the biggest part of that approach.

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Sorry. I respect you. But right now your the person that saw the Heronimous claim and bought it hook, line and sinker. Bob Lazar's claim includes Element 113, which at the time of his claim wasn't even on the periodic table. Other witnesses place him at Los Alamos, S4 at area 51 and he got busted trying to film test flights out of area 51. At a time and place no one would guess unless they had insider knowledge. And during his last documentary? His house and business were raided by the FBI. These are the facts. I am sure there is some embellishment to his story. There always is..... maybe he was just the janitor and had a good ear at the cafeteria. But he knows stuff that at the time of his claims? Was not known. The Janis flights out of Las Vegas daily. The Groom lake facility being underground. So forth and so on. And yet the government has never budged, has raided his home and business and has basically white washed his whole past, and pronounced him a crack pot. Sound familiar? The reason I bring UFO's into the discussion is simply because we are dealing with the same entity. The US Government and its shadow corporations. We could talk about Giants instead and why the Smithsonian is exempt from federal law concerning ancient burial skeletons. They don't have to produce the goods or even provide an inventory. People have the receipt that they shipped odd bones to the Smithsonian. Smithsonian says we don't have them. How convenient. Forget Bigfoot, UFOs and Giants....... lets look at the Missing 411 books and the fight it was for David Paulides to even get a missing persons report from the US Park Service? I stand for transparency, and I think its our citizen's duty to hold our politicians feet to the fire. Because they are anything but transparent. Not at the Federal level and not even at the state level. Lots of shenanigans going on unfortunately. And then the flip side of the coin? Just the Federal capacity to monitor the US borders? How are they missing 800 lbs ape men walking to and fro? Maybe like UFO's at some point there will be leaked footage from the US military or border patrol? The whole thing stinks to high heaven. But if your just Joe Schmo you just think the whole thing is stupid and your more interested in the score from the ball game last night. Until one day your on National Forest hunting? And your life is changed forever. And your question is......how does this thing exist without the authorities knowing about it. Who do I make a report out to? Am I gonna be ridiculed? Am I in danger?

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This is also why I believe government discourages discovery. There has been an ideology for..........well, since about the time of the PG film...............that governments have used a no-contact policy with uncontacted people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncontacted_peoples https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival_International

I'm also pretty convinced of that. Another consideration is that aboriginal Americans have always described them as wild people.

I did watch the video. More later. I’m stuck away from computer (cell phone too awkward for this old man )

Exactly. At this point I am ( again ) convinced that Bigfoot is not some species of undiscovered Ape. But some type of large human subspecies.

True. But the Smela case followed Backdoc's suggested scenario almost to a T, only failing because Smeja and his partner failed to take and distribute pics immediately. Which is the precise reason cited by Smeja as to why they left the scene immediately. This should be no surprise, especially in the current litigious society, and especially with a creature that might very well be a feral human or human subspecies.

But it's not just Justin Smeja. The thing I've noticed through the years is how many of the stories told of someone who after killing the creature. Standing over the body and feeling remorseful and fearful they would be charged with murder.

I take it you didn't view the proffered video. Question: What did Lazar (notice the spelling) have to gain from leaking his information? Why was the government obsessed with him?

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