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So, you have proof that Bigfoot run down prey and break their necks? You know that Bigfoot and not herbivores? I guess I should be watching more youtube videos. I was not talking about classifying magnificent animals, I was talking about the notion that the only way to classify one was to kill a male and a female. You can bet all you want, but you don't know me. There are many far more dangerous places than Ape Canyon, WA.

There has to be a connection between the Ebu Gogo, Orang Pendak and what we call a Hobbit. If there is not? Then that Jungle is just loaded with potential bipedal cryptids! How many unknown species are down there? I have always wanted to go on a Orangutan expedition. Would be a great winter Vaca!

Where do you think he was? Great job!👍

The collective body of scientists is the final voice. In a peer reviewed journal. This is why Melba Ketchum got the smack down. She circumvented the whole process and her work was garbage. But the Government is also the supreme judge because it controls the flow of information. Science cannot be done correctly without testable and repeatable results for the whole body to examine. This doesn’t happen in compartmentalized cells each not knowing the results of the other. And then compound that globally among adversaries.

^ That is a good point, thank-you, Huntster. I could only add that an ideology struggle over Darwinism doesn't make much, if any, sense to me. Are there actually opinions with any credibility that deny random variations in organisms? And, if so, is there any credible notion that favorable (along with unfavorable) variations are passed down to offspring? That seems like a no-brainer to me. And, I think (hope) that the favorable variations are prevailing, overall. Although, these days, it often seems like evolution is going backwards..

Gorillas don't eat meat and they don’t run down prey and break its neck. They live in tropical Africa in lush jungles. A Bigfoot is bipedal. A Bigfoot lives in mountainous regions of North America. It cannot sit around all day long 365 days a year eating leaves. Its tracking game in snow. Like we would….. If you are more afraid of black widow spiders? So be it. But I bet if you were in the cabin at Ape Canyon? You would be quite scared. Magnificent or non magnificent has nothing to do with scientific classification of biology. We don't just kill and classify ugly animals.🧐

No, but the original "discovery" of lowland gorillas (a process during the years 1847-1859) came (part and parcel) with a world ideology/struggle that continues to this day: Darwinism.

This. The federal government have agencies full of scientists, and their work and publications are government property. It may or may not be published. So if it isn't published, is it still Science? Is it still truth? We've been told that even the POTUS has been kept in the dark over many issues over the "need to know" doctrine. But if the POTUS learns that aliens exist, and he/she announces it, does it make it so? If not, why not? Who then looks into the POTUS's claim and verifies it? Somebody has to be the final voice of discovery. Who is that, and how did he/she get that power? Beating Uncle Sam to an alien crash site is pretty much beyond the capability of Joe Sixpack, but beating authorities of all levels to a fresh sasquatch habitation area? Very, very possible...........

I had to dig real deep for this bad boy, nearly 15 years deep in fact but i found it. I'm still adamant that he got his locations mixed up too, and i'm gonna send this to Aleks..

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Until they fall into one category or the other, they don't fall into either. And, if they are never classified, they will never fall into either category. So, I think you are putting the cart before the horse. I read your post (and certainly not trying to call you out, especially since you graciously run the show here and participate intelligently, probably more than anyone else.) But, I still have not seen any indication that a full skeleton of both a male and a female Bigfoot would be required by Science.

Did Scientific classification of the Mountain Gorilla, finally, in 1902 cause World panic? Did millions of World Government employees conspire effectively to keep Mountain Gorillas a secret since the beginning of recorded history, up until 1902? Of course not. They were just an extraordinary discovery that required definitive proof before most people who had never seen one would 'believe'. As Backdoc has indicated (several times I think) there is no massive, coordinated conspiracy required for Bigfoot to exist and not yet be classified. "A very large alpha predator that is intelligent living in remote dense mountainous terrain poses a significant threat." How do you know they are an Alpha predator? How do you know they are intelligent? How do you know they are a threat? just wondering I am more scared of Black Widow spiders than Bigfoot although, they are very non-aggressive and I hope I never need to kill one. Unless there is no other viable option, Bigfoot, Black Widows and many other creatures are just too magnificent to kill, in my opinion.

A very large alpha predator that is intelligent living in remote dense mountainous terrain poses a significant threat. A living one would absolutely be better. But they would never release it. Upon its death it would become THE type specimen. But my sneaking suspicion is that it’s coming in dead or not at all. But humans may die as well in the adventure regardless. Most scientists let native hunters do the dirty work and peruse bush meat markets for new species. They don’t have that option here.

No. Bigfoot would fall into either the extant or extinct category. But it’s a yet undiscovered species. A Lazarus species would be like a Coelacanth for example. Not saying that Bigfoot or a cousin isn’t represented in the fossil record. But absolutely not in North America regardless. They have no evidence of any ape species other than Homo Sapiens living in the Americas at any point in time. I think there is evidence to the contrary but thus far mainstream science has fought it tooth and nail. But now Clovis first is dead. What’s next? But this is a a main source of contention concerning Bigfoot. Where are the bones? And yet Homo Naledi was not on their radar until a cave expedition discovery. Same with the Hobbit…. The only way not to kill a Sasquatch is to find a similar cave full of bones. Get the species recognized that way. Type specimens would solidified and then they could go out and look for a living one to tranquillize and pull DNA from. If it’s a match? Then we are golden. It’s the same species. If that’s even feesable. I have my doubts. But short of a Rising Star Cave find? Science will want their pound of flesh. No matter if you’re collecting water, scat, hair, or a biopsy dart full of flesh. All roads lead to a type specimen upon scientific classification. Some animals like the pocket lemur they collect, let them live out their lives in captivity and then become type specimens upon natural death. Thats not happening with a 8 foot tall alpha predator that will gladly rip your arms off and beat you to death with them.

Ditto. You’re not a hypocrite. Your a realist.👍

Not when it comes to military tech watching 1000s of miles of borders and coast lines. It absolutely does not explain it. They know it’s there. They have to know it’s there. But they don’t want us to know it’s there.

That is a prevailing opinion among some (a majority?) here. I am not a Taxonomist, but I take exception to that 'rule'. That is because our understanding of the natural world changes over time, as even Science changes and advances, and because Bigfoot are, obviously, an extraordinary case study. Why in the world would a body on a slab be better, overall, than a live Specimen that could be examined and then potentially released back into the 'wild', perhaps relatively unharmed? That is mostly a rhetorical question. My mind is not likely to be changed regarding this; I just want more people to consider the fact that we do have options.

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I’m a hypocrite. I want proof which can only come from a body on a slab. Yet After That I 1) don’t want a single additional one killed 2) don’t want one in a zoo.

Can you reference this? I have never read that a complete female and a complete male Bigfoot skeleton would be required. Just as there are gray areas when a species is declared to be extinct (see: animals believed to be extinct but later found alive in the wild, called Lazarus species). It seems like there would be similar gray areas declaring some very rare species to be extant. Bigfoot would not fall into either category with 'Science' anyway, because they are neither extinct or extant. I would not need any luck deciding if hunting and killing a Bigfoot would be horrible, Backdoc.

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