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Thats because coal veins are roots. And vines and leaves and grass and all of the organic matter being buried in sediment and compressed over millions of years. The mountains were never trees…. but they could have been the ocean floor or a flat delta that has buckled and uplifted over millions of years to form mountains. Except Devils Tower! Maybe that was a giant tree!😜

Homo Erectus was using fires well before 1.5 million years ago in Africa. Cooking meat on fires was very well established in Homo Sapiens by the time they crossed the land bridge to the new world. Along with many other species of the genus Homo. And Native Americans did use fires as a tool. They made habitat for the ungulates they like to eat better.

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it wouldnt say its pure fantasy. Its an opinion that im backing up and explaing why I believe in what i say. personally, I have a theory that isnt mine which says mountains are the tree stumps of ancient, giant trees that were tens of thousands of feet high. I wouldn't be surprised if millions of years ago we had trees standing over 20,000' tall. ever seen the network of coal veins under a mountain? they look like roots. They look like the root structure of a giant tree. Coal (such as anthracite), looks like burnt wood.

Theres theories ranging from the weight of glaciers, mammoths, to full scale forest burning to kill animals how do you think humans made the connection between cooking meat? forest fires happened via lightning and cooked the animals and humans went in afterwards to explore. Then they saw the cooked meat than they ate them. They put 2 and 2 together. its a theory.

Yes that’s a fact and a great argument for logging as it helps a lot of different wildlife. What Redhawk was posting is pure fantasy.

I do not mean to insult. This is ignorant as hell. Ignorance can be cured via education. I'm a lifelong resident of the area known as the Great Plains. It's true that during historic times virgin forests did exist along the banks of Plains rivers, but were confined to those riverbank areas. The states you've referenced have prairies, and have for millions of years. As this continent was settled, the virgin forests were cut down to supply timber to construct homes and businesses. A shame, but a sacrifice that I doubt could have been avoided. It would be amazing to have seen the original virgin, deeply forrested lands.

Which is smart. If you burn every year and stay on top of it? The fire is low intensity and doesn’t crown into the canopy and kill the mature trees. And it gets rid of the fuel load in the understory. Ungulates love it too as you stated!

Which is why I argue for shooting one and making the species a know fact and not a mythological pixie or gnome. It’s the most expedient. And land will never ever be set aside for pixies and gnomes. IF they need our help we should give it to them. But we don’t even know if logging is hurtful or beneficial to them. Do ungulates make up 10 percent of their diet? Or 80 percent of their diet? Is Wolf reintroduction hurting them? By reducing ungulate numbers? We just won’t know until there is rigorous scientific study.🤷‍♂️

I am not agreeing with or disagreeing with RedHawk, however, I do know for a fact that here in coastal Oregon, the natives routinely burned portions of the forest to clear the land so that it would attract game to the new, fresh growth similar to the way a clearcut does.

Giving Honey Island Swamp Monster vibes.

I believe eDNA will provide us with a lot of answers as it evolves. Getting close enough to one to fire off a shot with a cross bow would be a monumental task on its own, but that would certainly provide us with near indisputable proof for sure.

I certainly believe we will learn a lot as eDNA abilities advance. But, I’d certainly like to see some funding to focus on some of these other areas to gather more data.

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lol this thread

I have a theory about sasquatch and sightings that i've talked about before but I believe that the Eisenhower interstate system, along with post ww2 population growth and development is a reason sightings were so common back in the 50's, 60's, and 70's. we were more or less disturbing the sasquatches natural environment and displacing them, hence an increase in sightings since they were moving around. I dont blame America, Capitalism or anything but i do believe we unintentionally displaced the Sasquatches. It was inevitable.

The point is that I'm concerned that even more human activity in more remote areas is going to drive the species even further to isolation and possibly extinction.

no one cares, get over it. This a forum dedicated to BiGFo0T

Well that sucks.

Hunt one with a crossbow or a pneumatic dart gun. This is the quickest way to obtain DNA evidence short of killing one. And you may have to kill it anyhow depending on how pissed off it becomes. Bring back up! And I have posted this up before. Pneumatic is expensive, but a recurve crossbow is cheap. And this approach would cut straight to the chase instead of sending labs misidentifications, I.e. hair, scar, saliva, etc. You shoot the crossbow bolt, it hits the target, it has a a limited penetration depth, it falls off and you retrieve it when it’s safe. And the animal goes about its business unharmed. It won’t be a small chore threading the needle though in dense cover. A biopsy dart is smaller. But hunters hunt with crossbows and compound bows all the time. It is possible!

I just read that Washington state banned baiting for Moose, Elk and Deer. So I guess I need to shut the stand down. 😥

I'd guess that 98%+ of the people who are interested in the phenomenon rarely if ever go boots on the ground. You are doing it and getting results. I love it!! Keep sharing. Thank you for your efforts.

Thanks so much for this. I watched the whole thing. The most credible witness ever. These two guys are the real deal.

It’s their claim, not mine. What could go wrong? Another ice age (if they are right). I have Canadian timber wolves on my property right now. The government transplanted them. What is my recourse? Zip, zero, nada.

For a long time, we accepted that there were 2 forms of life on our plant - animal and plant. Then, we advanced scientifically to the point that we could observe microorganisms. Microorganisms, in fact, have a biomass far greater than animal life. My suspicion is that to truly grasp the phenomenon, we are going to have to evolve our tools of observation past FLIR, trail cams and footprint castings. As our tools evolve, our ability to observe the phenomenon around us will evolve. Our current perceptive capabilities, even when enhanced with state of the art tech, are only giving us a tiny part of the picture of what is going on around us.