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Spoke to Drew and he has agreed to come on the show. A listener writes “I’m 56 years old and an avid deer hunter with 39 years of hunting experience to date. I’ve had several experiences in the woods leading up to my day time sighting on my hunting club in SC . My youngest son turned me on to your podcast. I feel compelled to share my experiences.” Listen to the Podcast

Careful, Frisco85132, that's an attack on the poster, not on the argument.

Published in the Dayton (OH) Daily News on October 20, 1946. Since Bigfoot or Sasquatch was not an alternative, apes escaping from zoos were the easy answer.

And? What's your point? If you read what I wrote, you would also see that I included LEOs in my statement. I speak from experience as a 27 year police veteran and actual shooter with over 30 years in USPSA, IDPA, ISPC, 3Gun, and PPC. Armorer, custom gun builder and trainer at not one, but two academies. So, I am not speaking from inexperience or ignorance. Yay, you got to put your two cents in. Add another five bucks and you can get yourself a latte...but the fact remains that the extreme vast majority of gun owners are woefully ignorant of their safe handling, let alone competent to mount a defense in a dynamic critical incident. I am 110% PRO 2A and don't even believe any state or municipality has the authority to regulate ownership or carry...in a free society the burden lies on the citizen, but the fact remains that people simply make the choice NOT to get training, choose NOT to practice what they learned in training, and make the choice NOT to gain any level of competence. How many post critical incident videos have you had to professionally evaluate for either prosecution or defense? How many dynamic critical incidents have YOU been involved in? How many times have you had to sit through tens of dozens of hours of post critical incident testimony or deposition? How many times have you sat in a courtroom as an expert witness, or as a consulting attorney for other attorneys in self defense cases? And finally, how many books have YOU written on self defense law, techniques, and post critical incident survival that have been court recognized and accepted? (For me, so far it's TWO of those). How many CLEs (Continuing Legal Education) have YOU written and delivered to other attorneys after you retired from LE and went to law school? (For me....nearly a dozen written with ten times that delivered). So yay....you ran a gun shop. Good goobledy goo for you, but don't pretend doing your chicken dance from behind a retail counter and not on the range or in a courtroom and dropping a faux anecdote about poorly maintained weapons coming from LEOs is anything less than mouth waddling because of personal hubris.

Am enjoying retirement now, but I managed three different retail gun stores over the years. If you wish to make generalizations, I can state that all too frequently the firearms that came into the shops that were the most poorly maintained (dirty, worn parts, questionable functioning) were from our LEO customer base.

Let’s leave the supernatural talk for the supernatural section please! Thanks! 👍

Tirademan credits Daniel Perez with giving him the lead that led to the discovery of stories concerning a rash of escaped apes in Ohio. Here are a few that I found. The Galion (OH) Inquirer, June 07, 1930 The Coshocton (OH) Tribune, June 09, 1930 The Mansfield (OH) News Journal, September 21, 1932 The Cleveland (OH) Plain Dealer, September 24, 1932

My response to the OP is based on 40+ years of wandering the Idaho woods, hunting, and carrying various firearms in the military and law enforcement. I am also a competitive shooter with plenty of trophies, own more guns than most local police departments, and regularly carry in the woods while doing Bigfoot research. My most often carried defensive arm is a Sig Sauer P365 9mm subcompact that holds 12 rounds. I am very accurate with it and it goes with me nearly every trip into town. When I am hiking in the mountains, then I am carrying a 10mm pistol. I have several of them, but most often I have my Springfield Armory XDM Elite OSP 10mm 3.8"... When in the woods, rarely do I also have a long gun if just hiking due to the extra weight. But, if camping or in an area where I suspect larger predators, then I will bring along my woods carbine. It's a Henry Black rifle in .45 Colt loaded with 300gr hard cast bullets going 1300 fps. It will take care of any critter I may come across. As to the subject of defending against Bigfoot... Physically, I think both of my woods carry firearms are adequate in terms of penetrating an 800+lb mammal enough to stop a threat. But... I think the majority of encounters have such a strong psychological component to them that makes the stopping power of whatever firearm the witness is holding pretty much irrelevant. I had a good friend of mine text me a few weeks ago and jokingly ask me what firearm would be adequate against a BF. She then asked if a firearm would even be an effective deterrent against a BF. And then she admitted she had just had a terrifying encounter while out jogging in the Oregon woods with a BF and was scared to go back into the woods. She spoke of the infrasound and mind-reading experience she had that made her think that even is she had a firearm, she wouldn't have been able to use it. Accordingly, I don't carry a firearm as a defense against Bigfoot, but as a tool to use for survival and possible defense against predators.

Bigfoot sighted in Hualapais during annual Sasquatch Hunt The Kingman Daily MinerView the full article

Well if one accepts the ridiculous notion that Bigfoot is a "woopernatural" space monkey....then I think one should also accept the notion that they would dematerialize/vibrate to a different frequency of matter/jump into a portal/float off on an orb, or simply allow the projectile(s) to pass through them ala Kitty Whatzername from X-Men long before a bullet, slug, or load of buckshot hit them, so the choice of caliber is moot. If, however, on the other hand, you are one who disregards the woopidity and accepts the very real possibility that they are, in fact, an apex predatory omnivore or an opportunistic omnivore with at least the ability to harvest mammal or pescatarian protein when it's convenient...then the possibility remains that they will ****** a hairless tool using ape such as a human if it is low risk high reward. As for a firearm, I carry a Glock 20 in 10mm with Buffalo Bore Big Game ammo when I am out in the field for ANY reason, whether I am hunting deer or fishing. Less because I think Bigfoot is going to prey on me, though I allow for the possibility, but more for the very real possibility that a black bear with a ****** attitude and general disposition may want to nibble on my ass. If "attacked" by a Bigfoot, the reality is that you're probably going to be dead before you knew an attack was coming because it's probably going to be from ambuscade and done by the Grand Master Gold Medalist Hide And Seek Champion of the world. BUT...the Ape Canyon account tells us that one was shot and fell into a gorge, and when the miners were allegedly attacked, they used their rifles and shotguns to drive the "Mountain Devils" away, so there is a presumption that guns DO have an effect on them and they won't "woo away on a moonbeam". Hell, even if you believe Justin Smeja killed not one, but two mind ya, TWO of them....then...the possibility that guns work on them like any other biological critter remains. Now, the bad news....the ONLY way that any firearm would be of ANY value is if you have at least a little warning, and even then, 99% of gun owners are barely competent to carry a gun and not shoot themselves in the foot on a range, let alone during an adrenaline dump facing a dangerous animal charge/attack. Over 27 years as a police officer having to review literally hundreds of videos of person to person gun fights from stores, etc....the probability of emptying your gun concurrently with your bladder and bowels are about the same while missing every shot. Sorry if the truth hurts...buuuuuut...there it is. Most people survive because they were the luckiest and least incompetent combatant. When in a dynamic critical incident, you will ALWAYS default to your level of training and as the extreme vast majority of gun owners don't get ANY training beyond MAYBE a hunter safety class, or a CCW class taught by Joe The Tactical Plumber, then the default will be "draw gun, **** pants, miss target, panic, empty magazine or cylinder, scream like a chick". Generally lifelong hunters who don't get "buck fever" are exempt from this, trained competitive shooters, or prior military with combat arms/deployment MOS are fairly stress inoculated too, but it also depends upon keeping up with training. I have been in several critical incidents during my career where other officers who were not "gun people" who placed a high value on training were next to useless in a gun fight, so I am not ******** on John Average Gun Carrier. I am ******** on other cops too. But....It's not ALL bad news even for the 99% who are a danger to their own feet in a high stress situation. Based upon not only my own face to face encounter were I am convinced that the revelation of my pistol is what caused the one I was staring at to flee, there have been other encounters where the BF/SQ took off when the presence of a firearm was discovered...so I believe, based upon this, that a visible firearm probably has a deterrent effect. So, if I were part of the 99%, I'd carry a 12 gauge shotgun or a big old hawg leg in a hip holster so it could be seen as a deterrent to a hungry, opportunistic BF/SQ.

What happens when New Hampshire’s most unsettling state park goes dead-quiet—then answers with knocks in the dark? In this eerie, faith-tinged episode, we talk with Rick, a hiker whose repeated trips to Bear Brook State Park (Hall Mountain, Allenstown/Candia, NH) have produced moments he can’t explain: a lone sapling violently shaking while all others stood still, sudden wind shifts, the woods going pin-drop silent, and crisp tree knocks that seemed to move with unseen footsteps. We also hear fresh accounts from Red River Gorge, Kentucky—a tent-side slam that shook the ridge, midnight whoops echoing across miles, and rapid-fire wood knocks—plus new sightings from Black Canyon of the Gunnison, Colorado, the Missouri–Mississippi confluence, and an unforgettable Missouri low-water bridge face-to-face. If you’ve felt the “get-out-now” gut pull in the timber, this one’s for you. 🗣️ Share Your Story Had a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience? Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show! 🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube 🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube 💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts! 📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed) 👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share 🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist 🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters 💥 Support the Show & Get Perks ✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member ✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here 📱 Let’s Connect Instagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links) These help support the show at no extra cost to you: Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for less http://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools: Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon ☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here 🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy 📬 Mailing Address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072 📧 Business Inquiries: bigfootsociety@gmail.com Listen to the Podcast

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I thought about your question a bit and how that applies to bears. We have pretty good scientific population estimates for bears in Alaska: 200K black bears, 35K brown bears, and 5K polar bears, for a total of 240K bears of all species. We have no cougars or venomous snakes. I looked up the average number of bear attacks in Alaska annually: So four fatal and 4 non-fatal attacks (total of 8 serious attacks) per year out of 240K bears, or 0.003% of bears are potential man killers. If we used the same math on an estimated 5000 sasquatches, there would be 0.17 dangerous sasqatches out there.

Which time? Not at the moment, or even before I go out into the Bush. But I would if I saw one, even at a distance, and even well armed. If I saw one while glassing for moose, caribou, or bear, after I lost visual contact, it's time to break camp and head back home. I'd hazard a guess at 1%, so if there are 5000 sasquatches out there in North America, maybe 50 would kill a person under the right circumstances. Too much to type again. Later I'll link a couple stories I posted here in the past.........

What happened when you almost killed your self? Do you fear bigfoot? How many out of a 100 are people killers? Can you tell us about some of your expeditions and some of the exciting stuff that happened with you? Uh

Published in The Cleveland (OH) Press on August 09, 1926, but the encounter occurred in Michigan. Tirademan mentioned finding such a story in Ohio in the 1920s, but I have been unable to identify it.

I packed spray for my cook tent in remote hunts. Weight and bulk weren't concerns (I use a off-road rig to get out there), and the thought was that it might work on a young, curious bear, negating the need to kill it. The social jury here in Alaska is that it might work on such bears, but that, too, depends on the bear. One friend has a bee hive on his deck (insanity where he lives up Eagle River valley). Sure enough, he got a bear on his deck, but instead of a thousand pound brown bear, it was a small black bear. He stepped out and shooed it away. In a few minutes it came back. He stepped out with the shotgun and fired a round into the air. It ran off, and in a few minutes it came back. He loaded a bean bag round in it and shot the bear on the fanny. It takes off............and in a half hour, is back. Finally, he puts it down with a slug. He calls the Troopers to report a DLP, and a Trooper shows up, throws it into the back of his pickup, and drives off. Didn't make my friend skin it out or even fill out the DLP report. Would spray have worked better? Dunno. Maybe the bear would have been uncomfortable enough to learn something. Since it was a young, small bear, it might have educated him and saved his life for a decade or so. But, then, maybe not. But my friend had walls between him and the bear and daylight outside, which gave him plenty of safety to decide what to do. A bear in the night while you're wrapped up in a sleeping bag inside a tent? That's a whole different scenario. Like this guy: http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=15821 Sorry. AFAIC, that guy wasted too much ammo (ie, >1 round) on warning shots. I'd have shot that sasquatch as sure as sin, then sat with my back against a rock wall until daylight and ready to shoot more of them. There is absolutely, positively no way I'm going out into the wilderness without at least two firearms: a rifle and a sidearm.

Published in the New Philadelphia (OH) Daily Times on July 23 and July 30, 1919.

Search “meth heads vs cops” on you tube. I question how well it works on human zombies as well.

^^^ Agreed. I'm thinking of the Byrna only for potential human problems. I figure the pepper spray against Bigfoot would be like bear spray is to bears - seasoning, according to one grizzled backpacker I met.

Bigfoot, Yeti and Loch Ness Monster hunters form Avengers-style supergroup Daily Express USView the full article

Published in The Akron (OH) Beacon Journal on November 15, 1911. Yes, I know that they're monkeys, not apes. And I know that they're really monkeys, not Bigfoot explained away as monkeys. But for all the newspaper articles blaming a Bigfoot encounter on an escaped ape or an escaped gorilla from a circus train or a zoo or a menagerie, this is the only report I've found of actual escaped primates!

If you live in a locality that restricts carrying firearms. The choice has been made for you. Don't expect a defensive device that works sometimes on humans to be effective on a creature twice the size of humans.

What happens when a woman and her friend takes a winding mountain pass home through the icy dusk of Washington’s Blewett Pass — and locks eyes with a creature she was never meant to see? In this emotional and unsettling episode, we sit down with Brenda Burgett, a lifelong Washingtonian and author, who opens up about her chilling 1990s encounter with a massive, intelligent creature unlike anything she’s ever known. What began as a routine drive through black ice quickly spiraled into a surreal, terrifying moment that erased memories, shook her beliefs, and opened doors into something deeper. You’ll hear about her friend’s desire to help “the man,” the shared amnesia, and how this one moment would unlock decades of buried spiritual experiences. With connections to Leavenworth and echoes of other paranormal encounters across the state, Brenda’s story is a powerful reminder: sometimes Bigfoot finds you. 🗣️ Share Your Story Had a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience? Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show! 🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube 🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube 💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts! 📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed) 👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share 🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist 🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters 💥 Support the Show & Get Perks ✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member ✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here 📱 Let’s Connect Instagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links) These help support the show at no extra cost to you: Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for less http://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools: Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon ☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here 🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy 📬 Mailing Address: Bigfoot Society 125 E 1st St. #233 Earlham, IA 50072 📧 Business Inquiries: bigfootsociety@gmail.com Listen to the Podcast

Joe Ford Nature Center to host first-ever Bigfoot event this October Messenger-InquirerView the full article