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  2. CaveMan

    Possible Bigfoot Picture Here..

    There’s two here. A juvenile on top of an adult.
  3. Huntster

    Has this been asked about the PGF before

    I have an excellent memory, and remember my wedding day 43 years ago quite well, but for God's sake I can't tell you what color socks I wore, what hors d'oeuvres were served, who was there and who was not, the name of the rather famous Alaskan photographer who recorded the event, or countless other details of the day. My brother, nearly 3 years younger than me, can remember almost nothing of our childhood. He can't remember the names of people, or can't remember people we name off. On one Alaskan adventure, when I was essentially staving off a pissed off grizzly with another man while others were skinning the one they shot, I can't remember all the guys who were on that boat. I sure remember that pissed off bear, though. Not only can I excuse Gimlin for not remembering what was on which reel, I can excuse him for not knowing squat about any of the reels at all. They were pretty much in the complete control of Patterson or others, especially after the event. If Gimlin even touched the camera, it was likely only because Patterson handed it to him.
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  5. norseman

    Has this been asked about the PGF before

    My mother in law lives in our basement and has no idea who we are or who she is. She is 74. Your almost 70 and have a awesome memory. I think that’s great! But I don’t think that it’s uncommon for someone 80 plus years old to have memory loss. I also feel like the camera was Roger’s deal. Bob just helped out.
  6. OldMort

    Has this been asked about the PGF before

    Personally, I would expect a far better and more detailed recollection of what was arguably the biggest day of Gimlin's life. This was not just any random day. The events that occurred at Bluff Creek contributed to shaping his life to this very day. These are not difficult questions to answer - I would think the memories of that day have swirled through Bob's mind ten thousand times over the decades. I'm pushing 70 now and can still recall vividly my most important and special times 45 and 50 years ago. We tend to come back to those memories in order to relive them if just for a moment, over and over again. Granted, minor details may be inaccurate and colored or faded by the years, but early documentation of the events and statements did and does exist. We are all different, but I'm quite confident that Bob could fill in some of the gaps if he chose to do so...
  7. norseman

    Has this been asked about the PGF before

    They must have. Because your not packing in a base camp on one horse. A wall tent and stove alone would take up one pack animal. So because they are only ponying one pack animal along? I would guess they had intentions of making a spike camp. Not much reason to bother with a pack animal if your plan is to stay each night at a base camp.
  8. Huntster

    Has this been asked about the PGF before

    Movie footage of static footprints seems something of a waste to me. Photographs work as well. But, admittedly, they probably didn't have another camera. Seems I remember seeing footage of Patterson jumping off of something to show that he didn't sink into the soil as much as the creature did. I can see the second and any subsequent reels being blown off and traded off cheap and easily after the main event essentially got blown off by those who should have given a damn. The trackway within the movie footage area was confirmed afterwards by independent parties anyway (Titmus & Laverty), and Laverty's confirmation was recorded photographically, and soon afterwards. I don't think even the kooks at ISF would attempt to claim that Laverty was in on any hoax by Patterson, but nothing those people say can surprise me anymore.
  9. Bill

    Has this been asked about the PGF before

    I did a 4 hour interview with Bob a few years back, and while I don't have a transcript to refer to, my recollection is that Bob didn't remember a lot of specifics about the other filming of trackways and such. I reasonably wouldn't expect such when trying to recall something that happened 45 years earlier. As I described in my book, chapter two, there are problems with memories of PGf events and actions, enough that I tend to regard any recollection with caution unless I can find some empirical evidence to corroborate the recollection.
  10. hiflier

    Has this been asked about the PGF before

    As the story goes they did take some stuff with them for a possible overnight but maintained a base camp? At least that's where the plaster was because they had to go back for it. It could have just been kept in the truck though which would make sense too. I don't know if the truck was part of the base camp or they packed into the location away from where the truck was parked and then packed out further on the day they came across Patty.
  11. norseman

    Has this been asked about the PGF before

    I don’t think it’s any mystery to a packer why Roger may have been sparing with his film reels. Two men, two saddle mounts and one pack horse. Packing a whole bunch of camera equipment and film canisters around in the mountains just isn’t practical. Compared to today with tiny SD cards. Typically your already packing, 1) Horse feed, feed bags 2) Trail clearing equipment (Axe, saw, shovel) 3) Hobbles, highline 4) Horse shoeing equipment in a pinch. (Spare shoes, nails, hammer) 5) Grub for yourselves, fire makings, cooking utensils 6) Sleeping bags, tent 7) Rifle, pistol, lariat
  12. hiflier

    Has this been asked about the PGF before

    It could have happened maybe two ways: The low sun angle on Roger holding the foot casts could mean that the casting material was set up enough at the end of the day on the 20th to dig out and handle? Or Bob covered the footprint casts early in the morning on the 21st and the sun angle was a morning situation when the casts were released. It would mean Bob went out to cover the prints especially to preserve the castings? My understanding is that they had to return 3 miles to camp to get the plaster for making the casts which would mean they lost about 2 hours of daylight before returning to the footprint location. Depending on how long it took the casting material to set up enough to handle the sun angle late in the day on the 20th would make sense. So please refresh my memory on just when the footprint casts were removed from the ground. The late afternoon on the 20th? Or early in the morning of the 21st. Obviously the filming of the tracks and the application of the casting material was on the 20th but I'm not clear about just when the casts were lifted and photographed with Roger holding them. The reason I ask is that if they had already filmed the trackway and cast the prints and had them and Roger photographed on Friday I'm not too clear on why it was so important to cover the tracks since at least two of them would have already been messed up just from the casting process. The tracks that Lyle Laverty photographed didn't show any evidence of being disturbed by the castings? Or did they and I simply didn't notice since I wasn't thinking about it.
  13. Backdoc

    Has this been asked about the PGF before

    I hope you are right Bill. That way there is a chance more may come into our view and consideration. I guess it might explain why Roger was wanting to sleep vs preserving the tracks from the rain with cardboard. Roger might have already banked plenty of film on this along with some plaster prints so he was more than satisfied he had plenty if the rain washed them away. Great thoughts OM. I am curious what Gimlin did film post-encounter if anything. Certainly not the stomp test if I understand right he was the one doing the stump stomping. Also, even though weather prediction was crude in the day, did they know or suspect it was going to rain the night or the next day? Clearly someone must have or Al would not have offered or maybe suggested to take the cardboard back to the site. (Maybe that was Gimlin's idea).
  14. Bigtex

    Need Help In Central Texas.........

    That's great.......my RT's kill tally is 5 cottontails, 3 squirrels (100's more treed), dozens of rats (duh), and a lotta lizards, usually just one quick well placed bite, and she brings them to me. She's missing some teeth now, so she finds them, disables them, and let's her rat killin' buddy Rusty administer the kill bite. Now Rusty is an interesting story......he was one of my sons dog and lived in an apartment for 6 years, my son felt bad for him so moved him to the 'Dog Heaven', as he calls my place. Anyway, this city-slicker dog was a basket case hiking, got lost several times, lucky to be alive, but he finally buffed out strong & learned the ways of the woods from the others, and after 2 years he's one of the Pack!
  15. Atlfalcon08

    Bigfoot Odyssey - Episode 9, Rez Squatching in Nebraska

    Watched this the other night after stumbling on to it on youtube. Enjoyed it immensely, the sincerity and honesty are obvious. The details included with the retelling of encounters just nails authenticity.
  16. OldMort

    Has this been asked about the PGF before

    Wouldn't the best approach be for one of you who have his confidence (Bill or Pat) to ask Gimlin about it in detail? After all, it was he who admittedly did some of the filming that day. What was filmed and how much footage existed? Did they finish the entire roll? Those kinds of questions shouldn't be that challenging or intrusive for Bob to answer, at least in my opinion...
  17. SWWASAS

    Need Help In Central Texas.........

    My daughter had a Fox terrier that lived to be over 20 years old. He was around me when he was a puppy and so I could do most things with him, but if I messed with his head, he would snap at me.
  18. Bill

    Has this been asked about the PGF before

    My expectation of more trackway footage is a simple filmmaker's philosophy of shooting more footage of what you cannot duplicate later. We know there's only 5.5' of trackway footage documented so far, but Roger had somebody film 16' of film showing him standing by a tree holding two casts, which could have been re-filmed anytime later after the event. The trackway was perishable and far more crucial evidence to preserve that day, so all logic would suggest he should shoot as much trackway as his film and camera would allow. Shooting half the reel would have been reasonable, to document as much trackway as possible. On that basis, I expect that more was filmed. Now why everyone who has trackway footage has the exact same 5.5' of it, and nobody has a different segment, is a mystery I cannot solve yet.
  19. Bigtex

    Need Help In Central Texas.........

    I believe the Teenfoot follows us quite a bit, and I swear he/she has some kind of a play relationship with Wolfy, not the other dogs.....they seem oblivious when it's shadowing us, but not that Wolf, she's on an entirely different level of awareness.
  20. Atlfalcon08

    Google Earth Blobsquatches

    It's funny my daughter just moved out to Washington, and I was following along on I-90 on google maps street view plenty of wooded squatchy territory. Makes me want to check out hot spots like Big Thicket area, Bluff Creek, Vancouver Island, Boggy Creek, Scape oar swamp etc. chances of finding a quality pic has got to be like hitting the lottery, but still, it gives you an idea what these places look like and the environment. Plus with our luck there would be a perfect up close pic and google would blur the face like they do humans.
  21. Catmandoo

    Need Help In Central Texas.........

    Are you followed when you have 'the pack' in your area?
  22. hiflier

    Infrasound and interference

    A curious thing that. Does this work? It's from a link to Crypto Reality's video list: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYVF04qK5sAhG9FBBcG061A/featured?disable_polymer=1
  23. Bigtex

    Need Help In Central Texas.........

    Hey Cat......that Wolf's nose is something special, and the pool is always a sniff fest for the pups when I go down there. The little white-tan dog on the far right is a Rat Terrier and is my oldest at 16....she is still the pack leader, the true killer of the bunch, and a finer squirrel hunter you will never find, she is still out front and leading the charge! The wolf is her 'pup' too, she taught her well, and still grooms her.
  24. wiiawiwb

    Infrasound and interference

    The video is no linger available.
  25. Backdoc

    Has this been asked about the PGF before

    Let me start by saying I more than trust Pat and Bill and many others who I consider pretty darn knowledgeable on this stuff. If you expect more track footage than I would bet there is more and hope one day it would pop up. I do have a couple Q on it though: 1) Is it true the actual run of footprints at Bluff Creek that day was a short distance? That is, the total number of identifiable tracks were not 1000's but a short distance in the early part of the PGF only as I understand it. Patty went from the loamy creekbed soil to more hardpacked soil. Didn't she walk most of the distance on a hardpacked road? That way maybe there was not a long run of footprints stretching for 100 yards but just a short run (10-15 yards?). I don't really know. I am thinking then tracks were only present in the first part of the film to maybe just after the turn back segment 2) When the early viewing was done of the film, is it possible the PGF made such an impression on the viewers the film of the footprints and so on was the last thing they were focused on? That is, maybe the trackway we have is all the trackway they actually filmed. I just wondered even though Reel #2 might have been viewed in those early viewings memories on that reel #2 are distorted since i have to think nearly all the focus was on Reel #1. I am just throwing out there if it is possible we assume there is a lot more reel 2 trackway footage based on 1) the memory of others who at the time might have really been focusing on the amazement of reel 1 2) a trackway that was a long Patty walk but only left footprints in the first section from which I think 2 casts were made by Roger. In that way Roger might have thought to get some fairly close up filming of those tracks looking down and into them. Roger filming 5 tracks (and having made plaster casts of 2 of them) might have been Roger thinking he had a decent amount of the tracks filmed close up. He might have thought he had those documented pretty good. He might not have saw any value in film more of a panorama trackway even though it is something we can now wish he did. He also might have been saving some of this film in case they had another sighting. I am just wondering IF some of this could explain why we expect more track footage where none has turned up. Maybe early witnesses think there was more and maybe there was. But maybe, they were so focused on Patty memories of the track footage expectations of length grow with time. Possible?
  26. hiflier

    Infrasound and interference

    I watched a couple of more videos and here's what I think. A thermal imager would go a long way in some of the 'pareidolia' footage. The one where the big male is supposedly in the water especially. So showing both normal video as well as thermal footage side by side in a split screen? Yeah that would be compelling.
  27. Bill

    Has this been asked about the PGF before

    with no disrespect to witnesses, I base my analysis on the empirical evidence I can hold in my hand. So all I can say with certainty is there's 5.5 feet of trackway footage. Assuming what you say is correct, it confirms my assumption there's more, but then we must wonder why if there's more, it's never been released or shown, or discovered in any archive of footage, not Roger's, not Green's, not dahinden's, not the Russians who got footage from dahinden, not the ANE company, nobody. Curious.
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