I HAVE A PLAN PICKING AT THE BACK OF MY BRAIN...RE: SMALL GROUP (4 Total) MONTH LONG IN SITU STUDY

[norseman]

18 minutes ago, Huntster said:

 

So return contact with 225 grains @ 2850 fps isn't approved?

.338 win mag?

[7.62]

14 minutes ago, Huntster said:

 

As long as they're running away, let them run. They'll die. 

agree I sure as hell wouldn't want a bigfoot charging me that's why if it's close I'm going semi auto and mag dumping 

[norseman]

Just now, 7.62 said:

agree I sure as hell wouldn't want a bigfoot charging me that's why if it's close I'm going semi auto and mag dumping 

It’s bipedal. So my first mag would go into the pelvic region.

[7.62]

6 minutes ago, norseman said:

It’s bipedal. So my first mag would go into the pelvic region.

 

 

Mine would be  3 center mass . I have a brakes on my AR10's . It sucks for anyone next to me but very little muzzle rise and really controllable 

squeezing the trigger rapidly and staying on target . Only reason I say center mass it's the largest target with vitals 

[Doug]

I have taken numerous elk from 30 yards to 400 yards, numerous deer at 30 yards to 600 yards and several bears from 30 yards to 300 yards with my 7mm magnum, most with one shot one kill. I believe my gun could put a sasquatch down quickly with one shot, though I would continue to shoot until I was out of lead. A bullet that can blow through an elk at 200 yards will pierce a sasquatch heart at 100 yards.

[JKH]

Maybe of interest.

 

From A Close Encounter With A Juvy SASQUATCH, To "Someone Took Possession Of My Son" in 24 Hours! (youtube.com)

[Frisco85132]

6 hours ago, norseman said:

With a biopsy dart? You’re not touching the animal. You shoot it. The dart falls out. When it’s safe? You go retrieve it from the ground.

 

People need to do only what they are comfortable with. Hunting dangerous game is dangerous as you know. If I see one? I am shooting. After that? I will spend the rest of my life protecting the species. But we must get the species recognized to science. Thats what is important.

 

My fear with a biopsy dart is it getting hung up in a tree or a branch. We really don’t get a lot of long clear views in the Pac NW. Or something will go wrong with the DNA sample. And science will take type specimens anyhow after you prove the species real as a layman with a biopsy dart…. 

 

 

 

You were right.  I misread the dart portion.  Yes, a biopsy dart would be a great tool to have.  Agreed.  

 

[norseman]

6 hours ago, Frisco85132 said:

You were right.  I misread the dart portion.  Yes, a biopsy dart would be a great tool to have.  Agreed.  

 

Sorry. I kinda hijacked your thread.

 

Anyhow if you wanna come up here and camp for a month? I would volunteer some of my time to help you select a spot or whatever you need to see this through. I cannot dedicate a month unfortunately, but would help as I could.

[Frisco85132]

9 hours ago, norseman said:

Sorry. I kinda hijacked your thread.

 

Anyhow if you wanna come up here and camp for a month? I would volunteer some of my time to help you select a spot or whatever you need to see this through. I cannot dedicate a month unfortunately, but would help as I could.

NO, I invited and appreciate discussion.  I want other points of view.  

I appreciate the offer too.  My summer season usually starts around June 5th the heat is hitting the triple digits in the valley, and the tourists are flooding my place up north.  I hit the road with my dogs with a "general" direction in mind.  But, if I can get this idea together, it's an early fall plan.

 

[Frisco85132]

This is an interesting account....because it happened to me.

[Catmandoo]

A solid month long mission may be difficult to carry out due to National Forest camping restrictions. Perhaps two 14 day missions with a minor relocation. Recently, I reviewed NFS policy for my area. For me, I am limited to 28 days per year of dispersed camping. The common day limit number in National Forests is 14 days at one campsite and then you relocate. The policies for relocation vary. The Idaho Panhandle National Forests should be individually checked. Idaho is a bit different. Marijuana is not legal and they do not allow public nudity. Where is the fun in that?

Colville National Forest is also 14 days at one campsite. I am sure that a forum member will chime in with a different opinion.

 

I work alone so that I am always outnumbered. I carry a lot of water for one person. I cook with propane so that I am already set up when campfires are banned.

In reviewing the 4 person mission with the F 350, I did not see water capacity listed in the early stage of planning. 4 persons ( and dogs ) for 28 days is over 100 gallons of drinking water. 4 stinky guys need to wash up so that is a huge amount of water.   I can envision a small, enclosed utility trailer that will carry hundreds of gallons of water, propane / alcohol fuel supply for cooking / heating wash water, food and air tight bear proof containers to store garbage. You can't assume that burning garbage will be possible.

 

N E Washington would be cool. Bears, deer, cougars, moose, wolves and our cousins. We lost the last of the Mountain Cariboo when they were captured and kidnapped to Canada for a species rehab project.

 

An old map of wolf packs from 2016:

[norseman]

9 hours ago, Catmandoo said:

A solid month long mission may be difficult to carry out due to National Forest camping restrictions. Perhaps two 14 day missions with a minor relocation. Recently, I reviewed NFS policy for my area. For me, I am limited to 28 days per year of dispersed camping. The common day limit number in National Forests is 14 days at one campsite and then you relocate. The policies for relocation vary. The Idaho Panhandle National Forests should be individually checked. Idaho is a bit different. Marijuana is not legal and they do not allow public nudity. Where is the fun in that?

Colville National Forest is also 14 days at one campsite. I am sure that a forum member will chime in with a different opinion.

 

I work alone so that I am always outnumbered. I carry a lot of water for one person. I cook with propane so that I am already set up when campfires are banned.

In reviewing the 4 person mission with the F 350, I did not see water capacity listed in the early stage of planning. 4 persons ( and dogs ) for 28 days is over 100 gallons of drinking water. 4 stinky guys need to wash up so that is a huge amount of water.   I can envision a small, enclosed utility trailer that will carry hundreds of gallons of water, propane / alcohol fuel supply for cooking / heating wash water, food and air tight bear proof containers to store garbage. You can't assume that burning garbage will be possible.

 

N E Washington would be cool. Bears, deer, cougars, moose, wolves and our cousins. We lost the last of the Mountain Cariboo when they were captured and kidnapped to Canada for a species rehab project.

 

An old map of wolf packs from 2016:

On the Colville National Forest 14 day limits are usually enforced in established camp grounds. But I know of many month long hunting camps in non established camp grounds. They either get away with it, there is a loophole or they just move camp across the meadow.

 

Ive never gotten the riot act about my camp. Only grizzly bear awareness and my e bike by Forest Service.

 

Idaho endowment lands may have changed recently. But traditionally there was no limit. Again I see month long hunting camps that don’t seem to be bothered.

 

Here is a proposed rule change to 14 days. Don’t know if it passed.

 

https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/IDLANDS/2024/01/08/file_attachments/2740107/Legislative Admin Rules 20.05.01.pdf

 

Part of the Kaniksu NF is administered by the Colville NF. The rest would be either Idaho Panhandle NF or Kootenai NF.

[Frisco85132]

On 4/27/2024 at 5:50 PM, 7.62 said:

I'm not all taking it as argumentative . I'm like you and can't see my self killing one unless my life or someone else life is in danger from one . I actually think trying to hunt one is kind of nuts anyways . I don't see my self  getting the drop on one but If my goal was to hunt one it would be from the campsite where possibly one might get curious enough to come and take a look at it from a far . Pick the right camp site where there is some field of view and install a thermal scope on my Barrett on a tripod . I think one hit center mass it's not going far .

Oh, I'd say a Barrett would have all the lethal qualities one would need to take one down....wearing body armor, riding an up-armored battle bear...

 

[Huntster]

9 hours ago, norseman said:

On the Colville National Forest 14 day limits are usually enforced in established camp grounds. But I know of many month long hunting camps in non established camp grounds. They either get away with it, there is a loophole or they just move camp across the meadow...........

 

The 14 day camp limit requires a move of 2 miles to begin another 14 days. You can legally move back and forth between two spots 2 miles apart and 14 days apart on unclassified public land (a critical point in this discussion) for a lifetime. Alaska state DNR regs contain this in their "Generally Allowed Use" regs. The feds, of course, would never outline anything as "generally allowed". This rather uniform regulation nationwide clearly originated from some judicial ruling, but I don't know which one. I should research it, especially since SCOTUS is currently reviewing the homeless camping struggle in Grants Pass, which has the remote potential of changing land use regs concerning laying one's head to sleep on public property everywhere.

 

Almost universally, if you're quiet and nobody reports you, you can stay longer than 14 days on remote lands without difficulty. I've done it numerous times. But a group of guys call blasting sasquacth howls? They might pique some unwanted attention..........

 

https://dnr.alaska.gov/mlw/cdn/pdf/factsheets/generally-allowed-uses.pdf

 

 

[unlikely knot]

I'm old, semi-retired and still good enough shape to hump a backpack, so I'm planning on some probably solo 10 to 14 day sojourns into ONP and ONF with the Dungeness drainages, in particular, this year as they are all in my backyard. If I do pack with someone, it's usually my brother or one of my girls and my RV is a bivy sack and a 90 liter backpack. Bear season here in WA (don't get me started on spring bear...) starts August 1 and late cat season ends tomorrow, the end of April so I'm usually packing an -06 or a 300 RUM and my own hand loads. I'm not totally pro kill, a corpse would solve the issue, but the personal consequences of the aftereffects need to be taken into account. Even if it was a real sasquatch one killed, certainly someone isn't going to like what you did and is going to legally come after you, or maybe in your mind, you just misrecognized a prank pulling human in a suit, or perhaps an out of season bear. My first action afterward would be to hire a lawyer just because.