norseman Posted 3 hours ago Admin Posted 3 hours ago 49 minutes ago, NorCalWitness said: As you've already pointed out, the government won't allow this to come out. Imagine the logistics that go into getting a body out to the public. It's pretty much impossible if the government doesn't want it out. There is already plenty of hair samples that have been collected and submitted to science. It's done nothing. You are correct when you say that a video will just be called a hoax by people. No matter the quality. You keep beating on the door until it opens. Thats all we can do.
Backdoc Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 26 minutes ago, NorCalWitness said: As you've already pointed out, the government won't allow this to come out. You see a government I don't see. How could it be so many other things come out but somehow that same government keeps Bigfoot quiet? They are not successful in keeping a long list of things quiet, but man are they great at keeping Bigfoot quiet. Not only does this not make any sense as the government has such a bad track record on secrecy. The other issue is the idea Bigfoot as an issue would rise to a level of importance to go to such extremes to keep it quiet. Sure, people can believe that as long as they imagine an extreme reason which would raise Bigfoot to that level. An effort the government might go to threaten, jail or kill someone about UFO's or national security issues is not the same level Bigfoot would be as a concern. The more likely thing is simple science sees Bigfoot as an unproven something. Until its proven the government's position goes along with the science position. Then they move on to other concerns until they have a body. Now since the thread involves Survivorman and not government conspiracies, I am saying if Les/ Survivorman got a great Home Run video of Bigfoot beyond the PGF but with modern equipment it would be a needle mover. See this brief video. Imagine whatever criteria you need to define a home run video satisfied. I would say this video shows a young deer coming into this person's yard. It doesn't have to be proof just a video good enough to takes Bigfoot away from being a joke. A home run video would 1) Open up conversation for further study. 2) More formally on-the-fence and closet believing scientists would become 100s of the new Jeff Meldrum's based on the video. May not be 100,000 but it would be more than we have now. -
Huntster Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, norseman said: Convince science? No. Flesh, bone, blood, saliva, etc I believe an end-around play can work against the Dinosaurs of Science.
Huntster Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, NorCalWitness said: As you've already pointed out, the government won't allow this to come out......... I believe an end-around play can work against government, too................ Quote .......You are correct when you say that a video will just be called a hoax by people. No matter the quality. An end-around play can most certainly work against denialists. In fact, those bozos should be simply ignored.
Huntster Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 24 minutes ago, Backdoc said: You see a government I don't see........... Consider yourself blessed. Quote .........How could it be so many other things come out but somehow that same government keeps Bigfoot quiet?......... Few things are as elusive, rare, and consequential as sasquatches. Quote ......... Not only does this not make any sense as the government has such a bad track record on secrecy........ LOL.............if you don't know of government secrets, that means they were successful, so are you saying that everything the government wants secret has been outed? Quote ..........The more likely thing is simple science sees Bigfoot as an unproven something. Until its proven the government's position goes along with the science position. Then they move on to other concerns until they have a body.......... This is a very reasonable position..........except for one thing: Their attitude. They absolutely refuse to keep records of reports (even on their lands which they manage with a fine toothed comb), and their almost complete silence about the issue, only speaking on terms of joking. Sorry. That literally screams of suspicion. Quote .........Now since the thread involves Survivorman and not government conspiracies, I am saying if Les/ Survivorman got a great Home Run video of Bigfoot beyond the PGF but with modern equipment it would be a needle mover........... Do you remember what happened to Les when he last ran afoul of the National Park Service in Alaska...............which also happened to be the trip which featured his first experience with a suspected sasquatch? Quote ........It doesn't have to be proof just a video good enough to takes Bigfoot away from being a joke. A home run video would 1) Open up conversation for further study. 2) More formally on-the-fence and closet believing scientists would become 100s of the new Jeff Meldrum's based on the video. May not be 100,000 but it would be more than we have now. Yup. I'd love to see such a video. It won't prove anything, but I'd love to see it. 1
norseman Posted 1 hour ago Admin Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Backdoc said: You see a government I don't see. How could it be so many other things come out but somehow that same government keeps Bigfoot quiet? They are not successful in keeping a long list of things quiet, but man are they great at keeping Bigfoot quiet. Not only does this not make any sense as the government has such a bad track record on secrecy. The other issue is the idea Bigfoot as an issue would rise to a level of importance to go to such extremes to keep it quiet. Sure, people can believe that as long as they imagine an extreme reason which would raise Bigfoot to that level. An effort the government might go to threaten, jail or kill someone about UFO's or national security issues is not the same level Bigfoot would be as a concern. The more likely thing is simple science sees Bigfoot as an unproven something. Until its proven the government's position goes along with the science position. Then they move on to other concerns until they have a body. Now since the thread involves Survivorman and not government conspiracies, I am saying if Les/ Survivorman got a great Home Run video of Bigfoot beyond the PGF but with modern equipment it would be a needle mover. See this brief video. Imagine whatever criteria you need to define a home run video satisfied. I would say this video shows a young deer coming into this person's yard. It doesn't have to be proof just a video good enough to takes Bigfoot away from being a joke. A home run video would 1) Open up conversation for further study. 2) More formally on-the-fence and closet believing scientists would become 100s of the new Jeff Meldrum's based on the video. May not be 100,000 but it would be more than we have now. - We have rehashed the government transparency thing a million times. I am not gonna go there again. You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink. As for the deer fawn video? Fish and Game tricks hunters every year. Is it real? Is it a hoax?
norseman Posted 1 hour ago Admin Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Huntster said: I believe an end-around play can work against the Dinosaurs of Science. We have to try. And you don’t have to kill one either. I am convinced a biopsy dart - bolt can give us DNA without killing one. The real challenge is to break Bigfooters out of the wood knock-howl-plaster cast paradigm that has gotten us no where in 50 years.
Huntster Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 23 minutes ago, norseman said: We have to try. And you don’t have to kill one either. I am convinced a biopsy dart - bolt can give us DNA without killing one........ I think DNA is going to eventually provide "proof" that will be pointed to later (after discovery) as "the proof before the pudding solidified." Quote .........The real challenge is to break Bigfooters out of the wood knock-howl-plaster cast paradigm that has gotten us no where in 50 years. The film/photo/video evidence (even with plaster casted footprints) hasn't done much better. The Buga Sphere proves that a UFO in hand (like a carcass on a slab) can be ignored just like wood knocks, plaster casts, videos, photos, testimony, etc.
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