guyzonthropus Posted Saturday at 03:14 AM Share Posted Saturday at 03:14 AM It seems to me that somehow there should be established a bank of all these DNA results that come up as human contaminated, and unknown primate,such that over time there would accumulate enough samples to begin a systematic comparison . it seems like every time such results are arrived at that's the end of it. The samples are destroyed and the results dismissed. Sure, theres no real centralized unknown primate DNA analysis center, but there must be a way to obtain the direct data of the studies(ie genetic markers present in sample, or not present, for that matter) I dont know what it costs to complete a genome mapping, but it seems like they are getting done for more and more species, maybe its time to try it on a couple of these unknown primate sample. Eventually these samples will begin to fall into groups with shared traits or similarities. Are there anything like this already in existence? Ones that included a variety of different regions samples? I can't say what Dr Disotell does with the data he sees sample by sample, It seems like Dr Sykes threw out half at the get go then destroyed the rest after he proclaimed the resurgence of the Himalayan grizzly(or was it a polar bear) It just strikes me there's bound to be distinctive commonalities within all these samples , which if fully charted out could at least lend itself to some degree, towards some form of classification or taxonomic placement, or at least "oh yeah, that goes in that pile over there..." Of course this is presuming the government doesn't grab up any samples of significance and already "doesn't have any such data bank whatsoever! Thank you very much"! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIB Posted Saturday at 03:41 AM Moderator Share Posted Saturday at 03:41 AM 23 minutes ago, guyzonthropus said: Are there anything like this already in existence? Not to my knowledge. Remaining samples and data were discarded when the presumed North American Great Ape was not clearly identified. As far as I know, nothing remains from the "failures" .. as if there was a fear that failure to prove was evidence for non-existence so they were "hidden." I wish that data were available to a skilled genetic researcher. I think there are commonalities in the "contamination" which are not contamination at all .. but we'll never know now, the past is gone, we're starting over at zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iacozizzle Posted Saturday at 10:48 PM Share Posted Saturday at 10:48 PM Almost like there's a shadowy faction of the government doing their best to suppress and disinform. I mean, if there were samples that "might be a new manatee" I don't think they'd be getting swept under the rug. Please take that with a grain of salt coming from me as I'm no scientist. Still it reminds me of one of my favorite X Files scenes. Enjoy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiiawiwb Posted Sunday at 03:27 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:27 PM On 11/8/2024 at 10:14 PM, guyzonthropus said: It seems to me that somehow there should be established a bank of all these DNA results that come up as human contaminated, and unknown primate,such that over time there would accumulate enough samples to begin a systematic comparison . I've thought the same for years. Perhaps all of the human contamination or unknown primate results are each a dead end but in the interest of finding the truth it seems logical to keep test results where they can be accessed at a later date. We've all read about the number of unsolved murder cases being solved decades later as a result of new technology. The truth would have disappeared for eternity had the samples not been kept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvhart Posted Sunday at 08:03 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:03 PM I totally agree that results, if not samples, should be saved in raw data form. I have recently presented my eDNA results at the Texas Bigfoot Conference, and the slides are available to view on the FB Group Critical Thinking in Bigfoot Research. I am about to submit these results in more detail in a paper in Relict Hominoid Inquiry, Jeff Meldrum's online journal at: www.isu.edu\RHI. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogluddite Posted Sunday at 09:24 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:24 PM ^^ Mr. Hart - someone recently provided me a copy of this presentation (on DNA samples in creeks and such, I believe) and while I'm a fairly intelligent (though not always smart) individual, it was like Greek to me - Greek translated into Mandarin, and then translated into Romulan. Is there any chance you are willing summarize your report in simple terms that even a Trogluddite can understand? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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