DNA samples

[night912]

On 6/10/2025 at 12:37 AM, hvhart said:

Not "completely human" but human-like with some distinguishing characteristics (i.e. mutations), according to my research in eDNA.

Can you share your eDNA research. 

[hvhart]

I submitted a paper to RHI last November, but it's still in peer review.  In the meantime, here is a YouTube video of my presentation at the Kiamichi Mountains Bigfoot Conference in May:

 

The first few slides, omitted here, were about DNA and the microphone was not on and so were not recorded.  Nothing new in them that you probably don't already know.

Edited Tuesday at 04:01 PM by hvhart

[Kiwakwe]

21 hours ago, hvhart said:

I submitted a paper to RHI last November, but it's still in peer review.  In the meantime, here is a YouTube video of my presentation at the Kiamichi Mountains Bigfoot Conference in May:

 

The first few slides, omitted here, were about DNA and the microphone was not on and so were not recorded.  Nothing new in them that you probably don't already know.

Excellent work Doc! This, and air DNA collection are, simple, no-brainer methods for discovering, if not yet the species itself, at least a good area for operations. For those on the "proof" trail, getting up to speed on these methods and dialing them in with more data from various regions, seems like a relatively inexpensive way to find it. It may take a minute but this is going to be "the way" going forward methinks. I can see the schnazzily boxed sampling kits on the shelves next to every cash register of every general store in all of the outdoor recreation areas already. 

[hvhart]

On 6/16/2025 at 1:19 AM, night912 said:

Can you share your eDNA research. 

 

On 6/18/2025 at 8:29 AM, Kiwakwe said:

Excellent work Doc! This, and air DNA collection are, simple, no-brainer methods for discovering, if not yet the species itself, at least a good area for operations. For those on the "proof" trail, getting up to speed on these methods and dialing them in with more data from various regions, seems like a relatively inexpensive way to find it. It may take a minute but this is going to be "the way" going forward methinks. I can see the schnazzily boxed sampling kits on the shelves next to every cash register of every general store in all of the outdoor recreation areas already. 

I submitted a paper to RHI last November, but it's still in peer review.  In the meantime, here is a YouTube video of my presentation at the Kiamichi Mountains Bigfoot Conference in May:

 

The first few slides, omitted here, were about DNA and the microphone was not on and so were not recorded her.  Nothing new in them that you probably don't already know.

[hvhart]

Thanks for your encouraging remarks, Kiwakwe.  You are a true visionary. If and when my paper is published I will post the link the RHI here.

[norseman]

2 hours ago, hvhart said:

Thanks for your encouraging remarks, Kiwakwe.  You are a true visionary. If and when my paper is published I will post the link the RHI here.

We need a body or a part of one. You’re speaking my language!

 

I found the electromagnetic search for corpses fascinating. Definitely not on my radar.

 

 

[hvhart]

I agree on the body part.  Expedition  Bigfoot collected blood samples that showed human-like DNA, distinct from known animals.  The scientist,  Christina  Burns of FIU, promised to sequence these.  Can't wait for the results next season.  My work is not as definitive for existence of Bigfoot, only suggestive like footprints and vocalizations.  I will be working with the lab to sequence the control region at greater number of bases.

[norseman]

21 minutes ago, hvhart said:

I agree on the body part.  Expedition  Bigfoot collected blood samples that showed human-like DNA, distinct from known animals.  The scientist,  Christina  Burns of FIU, promised to sequence these.  Can't wait for the results next season.  My work is not as definitive for existence of Bigfoot, only suggestive like footprints and vocalizations.  I will be working with the lab to sequence the control region at greater number of bases.

I took a interest in those blood samples too! Very interesting. I know many in our community do not think that TV show is legit. But with a real scientist as a member and all of the DNA sampling? I hold out hope.
 

I don't know if I ran this past you before. But what if we used biopsy darts? People are squeamish about killing one, but many researchers claim full on sightings? What if we developed a biopsy dart kit for researchers? It would beat dental resin and grainy videos all to heck in terms of real hard evidence?

[hvhart]

Some people are leary of any tranquilizing dart as the dosage is unknown at present-kill with too much or be killed with too little.  Is a biopsy dart any different?  Or without a  tranquilizer, how do you remove a dart from a dangerous animal?

Edited 3 hours ago by hvhart

[norseman]

7 minutes ago, hvhart said:

Some people are leary of any tranquilizing dart as the dosage is unknown at present-kill with too much or be killed with too little.  Is a biopsy dart any different?

Very much. The biopsy dart is only taking a flesh sample. Its not injecting anything into the target. It leaves a small wound that will quickly heal after the dart falls out or is pulled out. Scientists use both crossbows and pneumatic air guns depending on the application.

 

 

 

[norseman]

Obviously security would still be in place. With lethal means to defend the sample taker if the situation went south. 
 

Hopefully “Patty” would just keep walking and after she left the scene we go collect the dart. She wasn’t harmed and we have her genome.

[OntarioSquatch]

There’s a long history of alleged Bigfoot samples showing modern human DNA. Were those all the result of contamination?

[NorCalWitness]

and I was told this forum was dying. great thread. thanks all.