Sasquatch gets bear sprayed….

[norseman]

5 hours ago, Huntster said:

 

Weren't you just accusing an entire village of fabrication and embellishment? There are no shortages of reports of Sasquatches in the 12'-15' range. A 6'6" woman is extraordinary, but not as wild as a 15' Sasquatch.

 

 

You or I can't pick wildflowers or get a permit to do so on most classified federal lands, but a qualified botanist with a documented study question not only might get a permit, but the feds might pay him to do it.

 

I think a qualified team of scientists ought to put a Sasquatch search plan together and submit to the USFS for the Six Rivers National Forest, to include a harvest plan, and based upon the PG film, thereby finally (after over half a century) forcing the feds to either make a documented statement on the film.

 

 

The Smeja murder scene, or the PG film site?

 

Funny about that, huh.........?

 

 

But Smeja didn't offer to take LEO anywhere. They (fish and game officials, not "cops") showed up at his door after Smeja broadcasted his story online. Now, how did that happen? My bet is that somebody reported it to there police, and the game guys went to investigate. They wanted to bust a poacher from the start, and that's exactly what they did via the loooooooong road/arm of the law. Had they found a bloody carcass or two, we'd have a very different story...........maybe........if those carcasses ever saw the light of day...........

 

 

He was violating federal law, just like Edward Snowden did.

 

 

Or they didn't want anybody to know.........

 

 

 

 

 

Zana being a 6’ 6” homo sapien female? Is not outside the realm of possibility. 
 

The tallest woman in the world who recently passed was 7 ft 7 inches tall.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna26178315

 

The embellishments in my opinion are the ones that make her super human in folklore. She was a large strong woman who seemed to be feral. Yes. But was she outside the parameters of humanity? I don’t think so.
 

Didn’t offer? That’s typically not how law enforcement works. It’s my understanding that Smeja went back out the next year with other Bigfoot enthusiasts and could not find the bodies. No law enforcement was present. So if the authorities are worried about hunters murdering feral humans? They sure did not show any concern here. Other than to bust Smeja on poaching charges unrelated to Bigfoot or murder.

 

Conspiracies. Yes. It’s plausible. The government doesn’t seem to like to acknowledge anything outside their control. The UFO community I think bears this out.

 

But this would suggest that a hunter wouldn’t be charged with murder. Instead the government would confiscate the body and run a smear campaign against the hunter.

[norseman]

2 hours ago, Huntster said:

 

In the 27 year history of the WNBA, there have been 19 women at the height of 6'6" (Zana's reported height), and 19 women taller than 6'6". Her height does not have to be fabricated or embellished. It's incredibly rare, but fully within human range.

 

https://www.interbasket.net/news/tallest-players-in-wnba-history-by-height/35235/

 

Her hairy body is also not impossible. It's even more rare than a woman of her reported height, but fully possible.

 

The fact that she was a feral woman is even more rare than her hair and height. Her complete lack of speech virtually guarantees that she was abandoned during childhood before the age of 5. Her hairy body is likely the reason why she was abandoned.

 

These combinations of incredibly rare features, statistically, would be beyond repeatable enough to explain the number of Sasquatch reports we see, even if a very large percentage of our reports are fabricated. But, without doubt, some of the thousands of wild man reports in North America going back to the year 1812 are most certainly feral people. Many of those reports from Tirademan's newspaper clippings actually read like feral humans, especially those reported to wear clothing or who speak. 

If Zana walked across the sand bar at bluff creek and was filmed doing so? She would be a naked human woman walking across a sandbar. Nothing more. Nothing less.

 

Jim McClarin is 6 ft 6 inches tall.

[Huntster]

47 minutes ago, norseman said:

If Zana walked across the sand bar at bluff creek and was filmed doing so? She would be a naked human woman walking across a sandbar. Nothing more. Nothing less.

 

Jim McClarin is 6 ft 6 inches tall.

 

I agree with you that Patty is absolutely huge, not so much in height as in sheer bulk. And that, IMHO, is what rules out any thought that she is a man in a suit. Krantz used her shoulder width to make that very argument, and he was 100% correct.

[norseman]

2 minutes ago, Huntster said:

 

I agree with you that Patty is absolutely huge, not so much in height as in sheer bulk. And that, IMHO, is what rules out any thought that she is a man in a suit. Krantz used her shoulder width to make that very argument, and he was 100% correct.

Ok. So Zana is a not applicable to the mystery of Bigfoot.

 

In my humble opinion Patty puts to rest not only the “person in a fur suit” argument. But also the feral human argument. We cannot have our cake and eat it too. Size. Physical attributes. Behavior. None of this makes any sense with a large feral human.

[Huntster]

55 minutes ago, norseman said:

.........It’s my understanding that Smeja went back out the next year with other Bigfoot enthusiasts and could not find the bodies. No law enforcement was present. So if the authorities are worried about hunters murdering feral humans? They sure did not show any concern here. Other than to bust Smeja on poaching charges unrelated to Bigfoot or murder.

 

Conspiracies. Yes. It’s plausible. The government doesn’t seem to like to acknowledge anything outside their control. The UFO community I think bears this out.

 

But this would suggest that a hunter wouldn’t be charged with murder. Instead the government would confiscate the body and run a smear campaign against the hunter.

 

I'm working off pure memory here, but there was no contact whatsoever from the authorities for quite some time after Smeja was all over the internet with his claims. Then they made contact with him at his home. 

 

Nothing about that initial contact was really analyzed by folks then or now. I would love to know why the fish and feathers cops decided to make contact. I have some thoughts:

 

At first, few believed Smeja's story. I still don't. Why would the cops? No body, no crime.And it's not like the authorities monitor Sasquatch forum talk. But Smeja stayed online and kept his defense up. His partner piped up. 

 

Eventually, somebody notified the cops. It had to happen that way. My bet is that it was an ISF, greenie, or religious hunter type.

 

The California cops, as one would imagine, look him up in their computer system. He has a previous fish and game file. They decide to pay him a visit to see if they can talk him into trouble. Eventually, when the idiot produces his "steak", he essentially convicted himself of poaching. 

 

Now if you shoot "a Sasquatch"? How might that go?

 

If you walk up to its carcass and realize it's anything other than a new species, like I tell my trigger-happy friends who shoot sub-legal moose, you have a decision to make.

 

If it's a new species, you still have decisions to make. Lots of them. Eventually, so will the authorities and Science. I can't say what any of those decisions might be, but I can tell you this:

 

None of them will be made by me or about me.

 

Good luck, My Friend..........

[Huntster]

15 minutes ago, norseman said:

Ok. So Zana is a not applicable to the mystery of Bigfoot...........

 

Zana was not a Bigfoot, nor was she an almas, but her story is very applicable to the mystery of unexplained hominins.

 

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..........In my humble opinion Patty puts to rest not only the “person in a fur suit” argument. But also the feral human argument. We cannot have our cake and eat it too. Size. Physical attributes. Behavior. None of this makes any sense with a large feral human.

 

Not all footprints out there are 17"-24" long,. and not all Sasquatch sighting reports are described as huge. Patty's footprints were the length of my little brother's foot. He wears a size 14 shoe.

 

There are clearly both feral humans (we have undeniable proof of this) AND Sasquatches (we believe). Both. And just like bears can be misidentified as Sasquatches, and Sasquatches misidentified as bears, feral people can be misidentified as Sasquatches...........or almasties, like Zana was.

 

For example:

 

 

[norseman]

3 minutes ago, Huntster said:

 

I'm working off pure memory here, but there was no contact whatsoever from the authorities for quite some time after Smeja was all over the internet with his claims. Then they made contact with him at his home. 

 

Nothing about that initial contact was really analyzed by folks then or now. I would love to know why the fish and feathers cops decided to make contact. I have some thoughts:

 

At first, few believed Smeja's story. I still don't. Why would the cops? No body, no crime.And it's not like the authorities monitor Sasquatch forum talk. But Smeja stayed online and kept his defense up. His partner piped up. 

 

Eventually, somebody notified the cops. It had to happen that way. My bet is that it was an ISF, greenie, or religious hunter type.

 

The California cops, as one would imagine, look him up in their computer system. He has a previous fish and game file. They decide to pay him a visit to see if they can talk him into trouble. Eventually, when the idiot produces his "steak", he essentially convicted himself of poaching. 

 

Now if you shoot "a Sasquatch"? How might that go?

 

If you walk up to its carcass and realize it's anything other than a new species, like I tell my trigger-happy friends who shoot sub-legal moose, you have a decision to make.

 

If it's a new species, you still have decisions to make. Lots of them. Eventually, so will the authorities and Science. I can't say what any of those decisions might be, but I can tell you this:

 

None of them will be made by me or about me.

 

Good luck, My Friend..........

Well right now I cannot tolerate anything more than .223. That shoulder has considerable pain and my chest never fused. I changed the injectors in my K5 today and my son had to lay up there to get it off for me. Pressure on my chest is intolerable.

 

So I think Bigfoot is safe for now.🤷‍♂️ I could try to let the air out of him with my .460 Rowland. Pretty dicey. I guess left with no choice.

 

Anyhow I always thought Smeja was full of Bull snot anyhow.

[norseman]

3 minutes ago, Huntster said:

 

Zana was not a Bigfoot, nor was she an almas, but her story is very applicable to the mystery of unexplained hominins.

 

 

Not all footprints out there are 17"-24" long,. and not all Sasquatch sighting reports are described as huge. Patty's footprints were the length of my little brother's foot. He wears a size 14 shoe.

 

There are clearly both feral humans (we have undeniable proof of this) AND Sasquatches (we believe). Both. And just like bears can be misidentified as Sasquatches, and Sasquatches misidentified as bears, feral people can be misidentified as Sasquatches...........or almasties, like Zana was.

 

For example:

 

 

Correct. But feral humans don’t explain away Bigfoot. Sykes likes to use Zana as a explanation as to why Bigfoot doesn’t exist.

[Huntster]

1 minute ago, norseman said:

..........feral humans don’t explain away Bigfoot.........

 

Correct. But feral humans are certainly sometimes believed to be mythical wild men.

 

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.......... Sykes likes to use Zana as a explanation as to why Bigfoot doesn’t exist.

 

Margaryan certainly did, but Sykes actually brought up the possibility of a previous outmigration from Africa over 100,000 years before previously believed. Margaryan jumped up to destroy that as soon as he could, as well. 

 

I remain skeptical of aspects of the Zana DNA papers, but I admitted at the time that Zana was (as Sykes wrote) "100% human".........even though Margaryan made sure to write that she was 100% homo sapien, a claim I can't now refute.