Huntster Posted December 4 Posted December 4 22 minutes ago, Backdoc said: You lost me at Joe Rogan. Yeah, not Joe Rogan the theorist, but Joe Rogan the media platform that the corporate media refuses to provide? Can you imagine a corporate media model giving Bob Gymlan hours of time on their platform? Did they give Roger Patterson any coverage beyond a couple minutes of "reporting" accompanied with thev standard accusations of hoaxing, corruption, and grifting needed to condemn the film? 1 3
cromag Posted December 4 Posted December 4 Bob Gymlan has some pretty strange stories on his channel. There's one about a sasquatch that hung around a certain house for years, and apparently was stealing crucifixes from inside the house and burying them in their yard.
Backdoc Posted December 4 Posted December 4 29 minutes ago, cromag said: Bob Gymlan has some pretty strange stories on his channel. There's one about a sasquatch that hung around a certain house for years, and apparently was stealing crucifixes from inside the house and burying them in their yard. Cromag You illustrate a point they made on the Podcast Astonishing Legends: They said serious people like Jeff Meldrum and others have to be so very careful. They want to engage with people in the 'Bigfoot world'. The Meldrum types have to be cautious not just of people who are using some bad science but making crazy or fringe claims. They don't want to be lumped in with the crazy claims or the crazy person. I'd say Bigfoot stealing crosses sounds a bit crazy to me. We need serious people with strong credentials doing the Bigfoot work. Lacking that, the vacuum of good experts is filled by well-meaning people who are not the best to represent the Bigfoot view. Some are an outright embarrassment. ( See the Bigfoot Massacre Theory of the PGF- Yikes!) (I would encourage anyone to listen to the 7 episodes from Astonishing Legends the PGF on YouTube. They even have one entire episode as an interview Bill Munns) 1
NorCalWitness Posted December 4 Author Posted December 4 1 hour ago, Backdoc said: Cromag You illustrate a point they made on the Podcast Astonishing Legends: They said serious people like Jeff Meldrum and others have to be so very careful. They want to engage with people in the 'Bigfoot world'. The Meldrum types have to be cautious not just of people who are using some bad science but making crazy or fringe claims. They don't want to be lumped in with the crazy claims or the crazy person. I'd say Bigfoot stealing crosses sounds a bit crazy to me. We need serious people with strong credentials doing the Bigfoot work. Lacking that, the vacuum of good experts is filled by well-meaning people who are not the best to represent the Bigfoot view. Some are an outright embarrassment. ( See the Bigfoot Massacre Theory of the PGF- Yikes!) (I would encourage anyone to listen to the 7 episodes from Astonishing Legends the PGF on YouTube. They even have one entire episode as an interview Bill Munns) Lost you at Rogan? Long form interviews are amazing. You seem big mad about Rogan. Probably because you think he is a far righty, but you are just closing your ears and screaming. You seem to like gate keepings. Thank goodness there are people to interpret the reports for you, in order to tell you how to think. 1 1 4
Backdoc Posted December 4 Posted December 4 1 hour ago, NorCalWitness said: Lost you at Rogan? Long form interviews are amazing. You seem big mad about Rogan. Probably because you think he is a far righty, but you are just closing your ears and screaming. You seem to like gate keepings. Thank goodness there are people to interpret the reports for you, in order to tell you how to think. Please explain how my response: You lost me at Joe Rogan in any way is 1) me have any anger toward him, in any way "mad"? 2) any concern about some political issue? 3) from that statement I "need people to interpret the reports for" me? 4) have a need to "tell [me] how to think" Please specifically explain how in any way shape or form I said anything in that statement to indicate such a response. I can see why someone like Rogan appeals to you. You have just shown an attribute in that facts don't matter. What you think someone said, stands for, and so on, if truth. You are the arbitrator of it and get to project it as you see fit. I will await your response to each of the things you have stated in your post. Show me. Me: "You lost me at Joe Rogan" Ready, Set, Go! 1 1
Doug Posted December 4 Posted December 4 3 hours ago, cromag said: Bob Gymlan has some pretty strange stories on his channe I like the one about "Mike" the juvenile sasquatch. Real creepy. 1
Incorrigible1 Posted December 4 Posted December 4 6 hours ago, Backdoc said: You lost me at Joe Rogan. Your loss. 1 1 1 1
OldMort Posted December 5 Posted December 5 10 hours ago, NorCalWitness said: Probably because you think he is a far righty, but you are just closing your ears and screaming. Bigfoot and far "righties" seem to be a good fit. Why do you think that is? Rogan is a performance artist, nothing more and nothing less... Why are you so swayed by his performances? 2 4
Backdoc Posted December 5 Posted December 5 A) We sadly live in an era of Champion-ism That is, I hold up someone to be my Champion. The person will link themselves to that Champion. Regardless of the behavior or things said by that Champion, if you dare to Question their Champion or disagree then they feel, "you are attacking me"! The most unpardonable sin you can commit is objectively pointing out with facts, quotes, video, or their Champion's exact words something they did or said. That really makes the person blow their stack. In their mind, you attacked their champion! How dare you. Now I have to demean you. That is the way it is. B) Now I'll briefly address Mr. Rogan: Since this is a BFF the issue with Mr. Rogan isn't anything other than his position or things he has said about Bigfoot in general. On any issues he will say one thing one week (UFOs, Nutrition, Ghosts, Politics, or whatever) and the complete opposite the next week. Doesn't matter. He is a performing seal. It doesn't matter what tune he plays or even if it is in tune, it only matters that he keeps honking his horn. So, what about Rogan and bigfoot. Here are just some of the things he has said about it on various YouTube videos on his Joe Rogan experience (constantly packed and laced with an F words every 5 seconds): He goes on about how "Bob Heironimus was proven to be Bigfoot". "They have the suit; they have the receipt for the suit". A video of Bob Side by side with patty "proves he has the bigfoot walk" He looks at a pic of the Morris suit with Bob H wearing it and states, "I don't know what that is" He said horrible and demeaning things about those who try to go out and looking for bigfoot. What he said was so foul and inappropriate it cannot be posted here. Also, Gotta love how he said they were all "White Guys" See, the issue isn't someone's background in politics, sports, or whatever. The issue with Mr. Rogan is What his opinion is. He thinks he is smarter than he is. He is holding the microphone, so he thinks his shallow observations are correct. No one is there to offer any other "But Joe, what about Heironimus changing story. Joe, Morris never had any receipt of any suit. In fact, look at his catalog pics from the era, his available suit looks nothing like Patty" in the discussion. To Joe's credit, he does know a lot more about the Bigfoot topic than the average person on some of the issues of Bigfoot, the people, the PGF, and so on. But, when you don't know the holes in Bob Heironimus story or the Morris BS suit saga, it shows you are either willfully uniformed or just uniformed on deeper thinking and understanding. That might very well be a reason why someone might reject Joe Rogan ad the messenger about this topic. If Rogan didn't have a clue what the Bob H in the Morris suit was, what kind of depth can the man - who has an opinion of everything- even claim on the issue of BIGFOOT or the PGF. C) Meanwhile I will await a response by NorCalWitness on his nonsense post about me from before. It won't come naturally, and if it does it will be nothing but his/her Justification of what they said. In fact, probably instead of sticking to that post I actually made, there might even be an attempt to that THIS post and things I just said in some retroactive way in it to go back in time and justify what was said. Imagine. All I posted was, "You lost me at Joe Rogan" Look at that response. Speaks volumes. D) In summary, Rogan is an entertainer. The are some many examples of his being all over the place I won't even list them here. The issue is what he said about bigfoot. And to those who follow the topic and believe in Bigfoot has said some utterly foul things about you. Foul. To the Joe Rogan fan and Bigfoot Believer, look into it. Enjoy what he really thinks about you. 1 1
norseman Posted December 5 Admin Posted December 5 Let’s try this…. If you don’t like something someone posts? Just ignore it. The BFF is a repository of Bigfoot news. We live or die based on it. This interview happened. So thank you NorCal witness for posting it. But please leave the politics for the tar pit. 👍 That’s for everyone.
NorCalWitness Posted December 5 Author Posted December 5 (edited) 16 hours ago, OldMort said: Bigfoot and far "righties" seem to be a good fit. Why do you think that is? Rogan is a performance artist, nothing more and nothing less... Why are you so swayed by his performances? long form, unscripted interviews are an awesome way to actually hear what a guest thinks beyond a few talking points. I can tell you've never listened to him. You think his guests are all performance artists too? There are some awesomely interesting folks who have gone on there and you are just plugging your ears and screaming like a petulant child. sad for you buddy. Edited December 5 by NorCalWitness 1
NorCalWitness Posted December 5 Author Posted December 5 (edited) On 12/4/2024 at 12:18 PM, Backdoc said: Please explain how my response: You lost me at Joe Rogan in any way is 1) me have any anger toward him, in any way "mad"? 2) any concern about some political issue? 3) from that statement I "need people to interpret the reports for" me? 4) have a need to "tell [me] how to think" Please specifically explain how in any way shape or form I said anything in that statement to indicate such a response. I can see why someone like Rogan appeals to you. You have just shown an attribute in that facts don't matter. What you think someone said, stands for, and so on, if truth. You are the arbitrator of it and get to project it as you see fit. I will await your response to each of the things you have stated in your post. Show me. Me: "You lost me at Joe Rogan" Ready, Set, Go! 1. most people who don't like Rogan dislike him because of their political leanings. its quite reasonable to assume your disdain for him has the same genesis. mad is the word I used because you seem triggered by the source of a great interview. maybe sad is a better word for your reaction. 2. rogan lets guests talk for hours on end and allows the audience to make their own opinions. your rejection of his show leads me to think that you'd rather have bite sized nuggets fed to you by information gatekeepers because you certainly show an aversion to first hand sources. 3. I don't have a need to tell you how to think, but I will mock your small minded views on a great show. lots of knowledge can be gained from listening to his guests, but you just dismiss it all out of hand. sad. Yes, I know what Rogan has said about bigfoot enthusiats in the past. Doesn't mean his guests aren't awesomely interesting to listen to. If your requirement is that you support every single thing a person has said over 10s of thousands of hours of content, you must not be able to enjoy much. again, sad. Edited December 5 by NorCalWitness
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