Incorrigible1 Posted December 7 Posted December 7 14 minutes ago, Trogluddite said: Clarification, please - is everyone misspelling Bob Gimlin's name or is this some U-Tube researcher who has arisen in the decade I've played Rip Van Winkle? https://m.youtube.com/@BobGymlan Interesting tales.
MikeZimmer Posted December 7 Posted December 7 On 12/5/2024 at 12:56 PM, NorCalWitness said: 1. most people who don't like Rogan dislike him because of their political leanings. its quite reasonable to assume your disdain for him has the same genesis. mad is the word I used because you seem triggered by the source of a great interview. maybe sad is a better word for your reaction. I quite appreciate Rogan. He is one of the better interviewers out there, and quite unique. He interviews all types of people, having a wide range of views. By the way, if one has actually followed him closely over the years, you realize he is more left than right, according to the standard (totally inadequate) view. He has recently been demonized for being "right wing", whatever that means. I just think he is curious and not restricted by standard dogma. Perhaps because of his willingness to interview people from all hyper-spatial locations in the universe of thought, he has been subject to attacks. Also, he is one of the most widely followed folks, dwarfing as I understand it, the conventional main stream media. Bob Gymlan seems to have gone off into his own little nook in the hyper-spatial universe of thought. He has done some stellar work and well grounded research in the past, but I can follow neither him nor Rogan into this little niche. Opinions will differ. 1
Trogluddite Posted December 7 Posted December 7 1 hour ago, Incorrigible1 said: https://m.youtube.com/@BobGymlan Interesting tales. Much obliged. I did figure it was a new YouTuber.... Honestly, even with retirement on the horizon, I'm not clear how people consume so much information (he types after watching you-tube videos on 50's B grade Sci-Fi movies, 60's B-grade Sci-fi movies, and Foreign B grade Sci-Fi movies....)
Huntster Posted December 7 Posted December 7 Gimlin was Roger Patterson's partner. Gymlan is the YouTuber.
iacozizzle Posted December 7 Posted December 7 I'm not surprised that Rogan seems to be coming around on this subject. I've seen him being dismissive of it in the past. However I've also seen him talk about communicating with "mechanical elves" while tripping on DMT. If I recall correctly this was hypothesized as possible interdimensional communication. Also perhaps an opened gate in perception. Anyway, there was a great guest, mycologist Paul Stamets. He brings up a great concept at the end of this clip. "Reality is not limited to the perception we have traditionally used." The first time I heard this I thought "this is a major reason we can't figure out bigfoot." 11:20 below. Cheers. 1 1
Backdoc Posted December 9 Posted December 9 (edited) ^^^ I would love it if Rogan-or anyone for that matter would- would "Come around on the subject" of Bigfoot (if that is what you mean) Can you tell us in what way Joe Rogan changed his position on Bigfoot or are you talking about a different subject he has come around on? Edited December 9 by Backdoc
Huntster Posted December 9 Posted December 9 13 minutes ago, Backdoc said: .........Can you tell us in what way Joe Rogan changed his position on Bigfoot or are you talking about a different subject he has come around on? I remember a time when Rogan dismissed sasquatchery like a pinheaded academian from Harvard would with rather derogatory language. Not any more. 1
iacozizzle Posted December 10 Posted December 10 What Hunster said. To add to that I'll opine that five years ago Rogan wouldn't have even considered bob gymlan as a guest. Be great if Bill Munns was on the Joe Rogan podcast wouldn't it? 1 2
norseman Posted December 10 Admin Posted December 10 I’ve always been impressed with Joe Rogan’s ability to reconsider a position he holds. 1 1
Patterson-Gimlin Posted December 11 Posted December 11 A lesson we all can benefit from. Especially, yours truly. 1
Backdoc Posted December 11 Posted December 11 (edited) On 12/9/2024 at 1:43 PM, Huntster said: I remember a time when Rogan dismissed sasquatchery like a pinheaded academian from Harvard would with rather derogatory language. Not any more. I don't pretend to know much about Rogan. I do know what he said in the video I provided. Those are his own words. I have not read a single post where he walked away from or changed any part of that opinion. Unless he has made recent statements saying he now believes in Bigfoot and the things he said about believers where improper then that would still be his opinion or position. Its possible he changed his positions. I'll just ask this: Q. At present time Does Joe Rogan believe in Bigfoot? Does he think the PGF is a hoax? Does he think Bob H was in a suit. Does he still think there is a receipt verifying Patterson purchased a suit and there is a paper trail all over the place? Does he think those who believe in Bigfoot is are in a cult? Does he still think those who look for Bigfoot in are a bunch of white dudes whom women do not find sexually attractive (and he framed this much more extreme). Which of these things does he no longer believe? what proof is there he has changed these views? I can prove he said each and every one of these things and more in the video I provided. That's Proof. Where is proof he changed some, all, or any of them? Could be and that is fine with me as I don't want to misstate anyone's present opinion. I want to understand his up-to-date views. Which of the above views has he changed? Edited December 11 by Backdoc 1
Huntster Posted December 11 Posted December 11 3 minutes ago, Backdoc said: ........I'll just ask this: Q. At present time Does Joe Rogan believe in Bigfoot? Does he think the PGF is a hoax? Does he think Bob H was in a suit. Does he still think there is a receipt verifying Patterson purchased a suit and there is a paper trail all over the place? Does he think those who believe in Bigfoot is are in a cult? Does he still think those who look for Bigfoot in are a bunch of white dudes whom women do not find sexually attractive (and he framed this much more extreme). Which of these things does he no longer believe? what proof is there he has changed these views? I can prove he said each and every one of these things and more in the video I provided. Thanks Proof. Where is proof he changed some, all, or any of them? Could be and that is fine with me as I don't want to misstate anyone's present opinion. I want to understand his up-to-date views. Which of the above views has he changed? I don't know the answers to any of those questions. I don't watch his shows. I only watch YouTube excerpts, and few of those, actually. I only know that years ago, he openly scoffed at the mere mention of Bigfoot. Now, he has Bigfoot "researchers" and believers on his show and treats them fairly well. I'll admit that might be purely a business decision, since sasquatchery is big business in the carnival world. Maybe he figured out that Bigfoot advocates attract money? 3
Backdoc Posted December 11 Posted December 11 2 minutes ago, Huntster said: I don't know the answers to any of those questions. I don't watch his shows. I only watch YouTube excerpts, and few of those, actually. I only know that years ago, he openly scoffed at the mere mention of Bigfoot. Now, he has Bigfoot "researchers" and believers on his show and treats them fairly well. I'll admit that might be purely a business decision, since sasquatchery is big business in the carnival world. Maybe he figured out that Bigfoot advocates attract money? I think you sum it up well. Until I see hard evidence he has changed his views it's my guess he hasn't changed. He moderates his public tone because as you point out it's good business. It's typical of many public figures and others. I'll bet the Q's I asked (which views has he changed?) will go several pages on this BFF thread. However, no one will post any evidence any view has actually changed from the video I posted. They will just try to imply a softening public tone means he changed. He hasn't. This is a man who- if he changed his views on anything- wouldn't be shy about it. 1
NorCalWitness Posted December 11 Author Posted December 11 12 hours ago, Backdoc said: I think you sum it up well. Until I see hard evidence he has changed his views it's my guess he hasn't changed. He moderates his public tone because as you point out it's good business. It's typical of many public figures and others. I'll bet the Q's I asked (which views has he changed?) will go several pages on this BFF thread. However, no one will post any evidence any view has actually changed from the video I posted. They will just try to imply a softening public tone means he changed. He hasn't. This is a man who- if he changed his views on anything- wouldn't be shy about it. such great insight. to sum it up: "I was right, you are wrong, and I am so important that you should do research and post it here for me to get me to reconsider my position, because I am so important". did I get it right? we get it, you don't like Rogan. you are closing your ears and not listening to the experts who go on his show. not a sign of intelligence.
Huntster Posted December 11 Posted December 11 1 hour ago, NorCalWitness said: .........did I get it right?.......... As usual, no. 1
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