Deer skinned

[norseman]

 

[MIB]

Interesting notion them skinning deer.   I found a couple fairly huge turds one time.   They were dried, charcoal black, coiled, but uncoiled I would guess 30 inches long minimum.   Not huge in diameter, inch and a quarter, inch and a half.   Seems to me you can sorta guestimate a critter's leg length from the diameter of the circle it's butt traverses when it craps.   This was mighty big .. abnormally big .. for even a wolf.   It was down in a cascade huckleberry patch.  Time was wrong for berries though.   The funny thing is this crap showed no signs of seeds nor of hair at the end where it was pinched off .. that's pretty normal with a predator .. bear, wolf.  Wasn't buried so not cat.   I have no way to know for sure but I always wondered if it wasn't the big hairy folks.   It was a couple months old or more, long gone, but .. interesting.   I'll never know.

[Catmandoo]

3 hours ago, MIB said:

I found a couple fairly huge turds one time.

 Do you remember what month?

[MIB]

23 minutes ago, Catmandoo said:

 Do you remember what month?

 

I'd say early - mid September.    There were still huckleberries on the bushes.    The turds were "old", same year but before the onset of berries.   Dry / desicated but not crumbly, hadn't turned white, hadn't been out over a winter.

[Doug]

I have a weird skinned deer story. I am still baffled about it several years later.

 

My dad, who lives in the country, called me up one early summer morning. He said he had a puzzle I need to help him put together. He can't get around much and needed my help. 

This was the sight when I got there. He said he went out to his boat in the boat shed early that morning. He always looks out into the back yard and down to the tree line for deer. He saw nothing. After a while working in his boat, he went back into the house and looked in the back yard again, no deer. He went into his house, sat down at the computer and began a game of solitaire. He looked out of the window and saw what appeared to be a dead deer laying the about 50 yards from the house.

When I arrived, He said "see anything strange?". I said no. He said go down there and take a good look. On my way down to the deer a see the line if disturbed dew on the grass, which, is a trail my dad mad to the deer through dew. I notice another trail of disturbed dew covered grass from the south east leading to and away from the deer. They were not made by my dad. It did not look like anything being dragged. It was as if the deer was carried and it had fairly dry fur not like it would be had it been dragged through the dew.

It looked fairly normal when I first laid eyes on it. It was a very fresh kill. As I got closer, something looked off. The whole right side of the deer was facing up and it appeared to be miss its hind quarters. When I rolled it over, I couldn't make sense of what I was seeing. Its neck was laying backward on its shoulder blades, its right shoulder, front leg and rib cage where intact as was the back strap loins.

It's left leg down to its lower hocks, ribcage, loins and shoulder were missing, as was the entire left hind leg hoof, skin and all.

The left front leg was twisted at the joint above the hocks and there were tendons extending out from them. The lower leg of the hock was intact in the skin, hoof and all. The skin for the right rear ham was present, with the lower leg and hoof attached with the joint twisted and tendons hanging out. The the hams themselves, as well as the lower left  leg skin and the pelvic bone and part of the spine were gone. The skin looked as if it were pulled apart from the side of the deer. No knife cuts were found.

 

I decided to do some detective work and follow the trail made in the disturbed dew grass. There was one leading to it and one leading away slightly to the side of the other. I backtracked it down to an old cat road that lead to the bottom of our property through the rainforest brush and big fir timber about 2 hundred yards to the bottom. It was hard compacted clay and moss, so no tracks could be seen, however, if something was dragged, it would have left a mark. On the way down, I found pieces of intestine about 6 inches long stuck on some brush about 4 feet high in three different places, which that in its self is weird, but it let me know I was on the correct trail. When I got to the bottom there was deer hair every where. Pieces of skin laying here and there. The missing pelvic and spine area as well as the hams, left front ribcage with the shoulder and loin attached and left rear leg were not present. The heart, liver, kidneys and lungs were missing. The intestines were pulled out of place in long lengths. The paunch was pulled apart and splotches of the contents strewn about. I have no explanation for what I saw.

 

It certainly fits a possible sasquatch scenario, one that it killed the deer and left my dad a gift or something. I prefer to think that a simpler explanation is a correct one, though I don't have one. We left a camera on that dead deer to see if anything came back for it. After 3 days, the neighbors dog began chewing on it and the turkey vultures finished it up. Usually, raccoons, oppossums. bobcats and even bears will come into something like that, but not this time.

 

This is the same property that we had many past encounters on. One encounter was my brother saying he saw what looked like a man in a bear suit floating through the brush.

[Doug]

Another strange note, is that most of the skin was present on the deer except for the left rear leg as if the parts of the deer where ripped out from the skin from within.

[NorCalWitness]

I am kind of surprised to see you post stuff from Steve, Norse. He is in the woo camp which I thought was a non starter for you. That being said, I am a fan of his channel for sure. 

[norseman]

11 minutes ago, NorCalWitness said:

I am kind of surprised to see you post stuff from Steve, Norse. He is in the woo camp which I thought was a non starter for you. That being said, I am a fan of his channel for sure. 

I am just not emotionally attached to my posts like some people are. If I see anything interesting on the web? I drag it here. The BFF lives or dies based on content.

 

But you’re right, I don’t put much stock in the woo theories. But in all honesty? I don’t know how much Steve puts stock in any of it as well. 

[TD-40]

I do believe Biggie uses tools. One of my little areas of  interest is looking closely at broken and cut trees on the ground to see the little chip and cut marks. They tend to chip around the perimeter of the trunks and then work inwards a couple of inches before the tree is snapped after that. Seems to be this consistent pattern from all of the specimens of trees that I have examined. That said, it wouldn't surprise me if they used probably the same tools to skin a deer.