TD-40 Posted December 19 Posted December 19 It has been hard to get into the "woo" but once I did, many other things started to open up. I used to believe that Biggie was merely a flesh and blood creature, probably of the ape family, that somehow ended up in North America and mountainous regions of Europe. I was watching a video presentation by Linda Moulton Howe who has spent her entire career studying cattle mutilations which always seems to lead toward UFOs and alien activity on Earthly animals, which is a different thread. Anywho, she posited that 27,000 years ago an ape from Africa had somehow crossbred with the Nordics, which are an alien species that stand 7-8' tall and are very white and caucasian looking, based on reports from people who have had experiences with them. So, moving on, that would explain both their primate appearance along with the height, size, and intelliegence of an extra terrestrial. However, I have since taken this a bit further based on what I have gathered. I think many of us have heard of bright orbs flying in areas of bigfoot activity. Then there is the experience of the two men who were driving down a remote road when they saw a bigfoot on the side of the road who looked at their car, then hunched itself over and morphed into a bright orb, then shot off at light speed up into the sky. For me, this is all I need to hear to put a rest to my search. This story is the apex of what I've been looking for. It is clear to me that they are not from here at all and have some connection to alien worlds. I guess I am not afraid to say it now. They are not from here at all. Is this thread any my ideas going to stir up a bunch of passions in people? LOL I would like to hear where you are in your journey of wondering what they are or where they come from. 1
Huntster Posted December 19 Posted December 19 38 minutes ago, TD-40 said: It has been hard to get into the "woo" but once I did, many other things started to open up........ .........I would like to hear where you are in your journey of wondering what they are or where they come from. I found it much easier to accept the opinion that they're hominids. A different human species, like Neanderthal, Denisovans, feral humans, etc. Once I did, everything "opened up", including DNA evidence. I just can't accept extra terrestrial origin until some proof of interstellar or inter-dimensional travel is revealed. 2 2
bipedalist Posted December 20 BFF Patron Posted December 20 (edited) Quote ... It is clear to me that they are not from here at all and have some connection to alien worlds. I guess I am not afraid to say it now. They are not from here at all. Is this thread any my ideas going to stir up a bunch of passions in people? LOL I would like to hear where you are in your journey of wondering what they are or where they come from. I think there is some validity to this, based on my research their calls can be organic or can be a montage of EVP's and organic or strictly EVP's. Though never seeing the floating orbs, I saw the electro=glowing eyes at close and medium distance and there was nothing organic or tapetum lucidum about that. I have photographed huge oceans of colorful orbs in dustless environments (some near old settlers graves) but not recently and previously only with first generation digital cameras. The smells associated with that investigation infestation and the abundance of repetitive small to large stick structures was more of the tangible evidence I collected other than the audio captures. With six years of that, I was reaching the same conclusions as you and extricated myself from the rabbit hole so to speak. Who is to say! Edited December 20 by bipedalist
Will Posted December 20 Posted December 20 They could just as easy be Nephilim. There has to be much more evidence Not only can we not prove BF even exist, though I lean towards their existence, we can’t even prove aliens exist, which I also lean towards.
Trogluddite Posted December 20 Posted December 20 3 hours ago, TD-40 said: Is this thread any my ideas going to stir up a bunch of passions in people? Probably, but I'll pass on the subject as I don't believe my response to this topic can be presented in a way that is acceptable outside of the Tarpit.
TD-40 Posted December 20 Author Posted December 20 3 hours ago, Huntster said: I found it much easier to accept the opinion that they're hominids. A different human species, like Neanderthal, Denisovans, feral humans, etc. Once I did, everything "opened up", including DNA evidence. I just can't accept extra terrestrial origin until some proof of interstellar or inter-dimensional travel is revealed. The only DNA evidence I have heard of has shown to come from an "unknown primate." Have you heard of results that differ from that? How does your idea about them being only hominids, or even relics (my word), from a distant past account for the reports where Biggies has been around the orbs and even morphed into an orb and shoot off into the sky? I think believers and experiencers will need to account for these reports somehow in their own theories. Therefore I think the days of bigfoot being merely hominids, Nephilim, sub-human species, and anything else that grounds them to Earth will wane over time. It wasn't easy to bend my mind in this direction but I had to start accounting for these reports somehow.
Doug Posted December 20 Posted December 20 Sasquatches are 100% what they are and what I think they are has zero % effect on that, however, my personal view is flesh and blood with wooish capabilities that are consistent with an earthly creature, even if we haven't studied these capabilities in other earthly creatures. They may be unique to the species. 2
Huntster Posted December 20 Posted December 20 56 minutes ago, TD-40 said: The only DNA evidence I have heard of has shown to come from an "unknown primate." Have you heard of results that differ from that?........... Quote .........How does your idea about them being only hominids, or even relics (my word), from a distant past account for the reports where Biggies has been around the orbs and even morphed into an orb and shoot off into the sky?......... I'm not an orb or shooting off into the sky kind of guy. Quote ..........I think believers and experiencers will need to account for these reports somehow in their own theories.......... Misidentifications, manufactured, confusion, etc. Quote .........Therefore I think the days of bigfoot being merely hominids, Nephilim, sub-human species, and anything else that grounds them to Earth will wane over time......... I agree. The longer we go without resolution, the more bizarre the theories will get, and I don't believe we're anywhere near resolution.
PNWexplorer Posted December 21 Posted December 21 I have watched hundreds of hours of BF documentaries and shows, and I've listened to hundreds of hours of podcasts featuring witness testimony and statements. I have also had my own encounters. There is a substantial percentage of BF encounters that include the "woo" factor. Although my own experiences were much more primal and earthly. But, because of the vast number of BF encounters that also involve orbs, UFOs, and other "woo" content, it is impossible to disconnect Bigfoot from the supernatural world. 1
Patterson-Gimlin Posted December 21 Posted December 21 (edited) While its ludicrous to not accept the scientific fact life elsewhere doesn't exist. Blue planets, different forms etc. I personally believe in the possibility of interaction. I don't think that has occurred with earth creatures. I am sure there are more plausible explanations for orbs and advanced appearances of what appear to be other worldly vehicles. If the creatures exist the more likely explanations are of a flesh and blood variety. The ability to remain mostly undetected in the dark forest where humans are in smaller numbers. Nearly none. Sadly especially true with the influence of modern technology that keeps generations inside instead of experiencing the wonderful world of nature. Edited December 21 by Patterson-Gimlin 1
gigantor Posted December 21 Admin Posted December 21 Mars is a dead planet even though liquid water is present and its on the habitable zone. So all evidence as of now indicates that life doesn't spontaneuosly start from a primordial soup.
Huntster Posted December 21 Posted December 21 13 hours ago, PNWexplorer said: ........... because of the vast number of BF encounters that also involve orbs, UFOs, and other "woo" content, it is impossible to disconnect Bigfoot from the supernatural world. Supernatural: Quote .........attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature............ If there is a world(s) "beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature", we cannot describe it, identify it, locate it, understand it, or engage in any other level of interaction with it. If that is where sasquatches live, there will be no "discovery". Ever. It would be impossible. 2
TD-40 Posted December 22 Author Posted December 22 18 hours ago, PNWexplorer said: I have watched hundreds of hours of BF documentaries and shows, and I've listened to hundreds of hours of podcasts featuring witness testimony and statements. I have also had my own encounters. There is a substantial percentage of BF encounters that include the "woo" factor. Although my own experiences were much more primal and earthly. But, because of the vast number of BF encounters that also involve orbs, UFOs, and other "woo" content, it is impossible to disconnect Bigfoot from the supernatural world. This is where I'm at as well. I have done probably as much research as you have, which has mostly been listening to those with direct experiences. Sure, many of them are merely sightings between them and biggie somewhere in a forest that was nothing more than a chance encounter. However, there are now plenty of cases where something paranormal was involved and I cannot ignore them because I am too stubborn with holding to my own theory. At some point I had to stretch my mind into a new area where it didn't want to go. I think probably a lot of bigfoot enthusiasts are hobbyists who have casual engagement with the subject once in a while. But there are those who are more actively involved and devour as much as they can find and who keep their minds open to new content along the way. This where I am. 1
Huntster Posted December 22 Posted December 22 Just out of curiosity, can anyone cite a sasquatch report that includes any of the paranormal type factors *orbs, flying objects, lights in the sky, etc) that was reported prior to 1990?
gigantor Posted December 22 Admin Posted December 22 Coleman's book has a lot of accounts from the 70's.
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