Rocking & swaying

[Somerset]

Many many reports have an account of BF rocking/swaying side to side, what's the reason? Why do they seem to do this so often when sighted? anyone got a theory? 

 

It's quite often a trait displayed in humans with a mental illness. 

[Trogluddite]

Oh, I'll give it a try even though I'm not a field expert on Bigfoot.

 

1) It can let you blend in with the background w/less visual acuity; I've had deer (rarely) walk up to within a few feet of me if I just stood still and swayed with the wind. 

 

2) If you need to stand in one position a long time (for me, in a unit formation; for Bigfoot, thinking that it's hiding), you need to flex or move a little to avoid passing out or cramping up.  It could simply be movement to keep the circulation flowing.

 

I'm confident that others will offer more (and better) possible explanations.

[MIB]

My theory is it improves depth perception by allowing viewing of something from greater separation than just eye-width.   I think it goes hand in hand with their reputed phenomenal aim and power when throwing, when using throwing as a weapon or hunting tool.

[bipedalist]

Swaying could be consistent with the autistic personality theory re: sasquatch too, can be one of the traits of autism.

 

Not rocking or stimming necessarily but possibly a self-soothing mechanism to alleviate anxiety if there is a recognized human approach, incident or encounter.

 

The night of my sighting I could make out the glide, don't remember swaying but nervous head movements back and forth seen.

  

 

 

Edited January 11 by bipedalist

[MIB]

I'm uncomfortable with the autism analogy.   Along the history of more or less scientific bigfootery there has been a constant effort to prove ourselves different and superior to them.   It demonstrates an inner bigotry and a subconscious need to prove our superiority, not merely notice differences of tool use, fire use, and so on based on differences in need.     Visceral squirm.  

 

MIB

[Huntster]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stimming

 

Quote

Self-stimulatory behavior, also known as "stimming" and self-stimulation, is the repetition of physical movements, sounds, words, moving objects, or other behaviors. Stimming is a type of restricted and repetitive behavior (RRB). Such behaviors (also scientifically known as "stereotypies") are found to some degree in all people, but is especially intense and frequent in those with developmental disabilities, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) or autism. People diagnosed with sensory processing disorder are also known to potentially exhibit more stimming behaviors.

Stimming has been interpreted as a protective response to overstimulation, in which people calm themselves by blocking less predictable environmental stimuli, to which they have a heightened sensitivity. A further explanation views stimming as a way to relieve anxiety and other negative or heightened emotions.........

 

There are all kinds of "stimming" that most mammals do. A sasquatch might rock or sway due to nervousness upon watching humans. 

[norseman]

1 hour ago, MIB said:

I'm uncomfortable with the autism analogy.   Along the history of more or less scientific bigfootery there has been a constant effort to prove ourselves different and superior to them.   It demonstrates an inner bigotry and a subconscious need to prove our superiority, not merely notice differences of tool use, fire use, and so on based on differences in need.     Visceral squirm.  

 

MIB

It’s a valid point. It seems there is a link between autism and Neanderthal genes found in non Sub Saharan African populations today.

 

https://communities.springernature.com/posts/neanderthal-dna-implicated-in-autism-susceptibility

 

Sasquatch being a archaic cousin to Homo Sapiens which would also include Neanderthals, may also suffer from many of the same inflictions as everyone else.

[bipedalist]

Wow, that papers hardly six months old, not sure how I missed that announced study (PROB  

because it was an online shorty, was there a link to a longer publication under a paywall?)

 

Interesting though that they also don't see a higher percentage of Neanderthal DNA  in the ASD

population studied just a super enrichment of certain variants. Seems like the methodology of the

study would be important to review. 

 

Edited to add the night of my sighting  an individual demonstrated the glide below me before settling in a standing location, no swaying remembered but definitely nervous side to side head movements accentuating the green eye sparkle glow. As it approached me on uphill trajectory to my sitting position it took a corkscrew or zigzag pattern not directly straight-on. 

Edited January 11 by bipedalist

[bipedalist]

Neanderthal Polymorphisms and Autism

Didn't realize the entire paper was at Nature which is impressive.

 

Anyhoo, if @Darby Orcutt or @hvhart has success with sequencing anything novel, this paper may make some suggestions

for further investigation or at least food for thought about materials, tools, methods, etc

neanderthalautism.pdf

Edited January 11 by bipedalist

[wiiawiwb]

Not sure what the swaying or rocking is. My guess is nervousness as it sees us and knows we're in its midst.

 

Myself an a sasquatching buddy were once at a secluded pond for an overnight adventure. I glassed the pond with a flashlight (Tiablo A-9 with an aspheric lens) and at one end saw red eyeshine watching me.  The eyes were swaying back and forth for a minute or two. The distance of the sway was far too wide to be an owl, which doesn't display that behavior to begin with.

 

The next year, we did an overnight bringing another sasquatch enthusiast with us to the same pond. Quite surprisingly, we had red eyeshine looking at us and moving about at the same end of the pond. That was the last time the newly-minted sasquatching friend ever stayed in the woods overnight. He was frightened all evening saying he knew he shouldn't have come. Haha.

[MIB]

1 hour ago, wiiawiwb said:

The next year, we did an overnight bringing another sasquatch enthusiast with us to the same pond. Quite surprisingly, we had red eyeshine looking at us and moving about at the same end of the pond. That was the last time the newly-minted sasquatching friend ever stayed in the woods overnight. He was frightened all evening saying he knew he shouldn't have come. Haha.

 

Be careful what you look for, it just might find you ...

[cromag]

14 hours ago, bipedalist said:

Swaying could be consistent with the autistic personality theory re: sasquatch too, can be one of the traits of autism.

 

Not rocking or stimming necessarily but possibly a self-soothing mechanism to alleviate anxiety if there is a recognized human approach, incident or encounter.

 

The night of my sighting I could make out the glide, don't remember swaying but nervous head movements back and forth seen.

  

 

 

Don't know if anyone has ever read the books by Christopher Noel, "Sasquatch and Autism: 12 parallels", but he brings up some pretty interesting similarities between autistic savants and sasquatch. 

[Huntster]

8 minutes ago, cromag said:

Don't know if anyone has ever read the books by Christopher Noel, "Sasquatch and Autism: 12 parallels", but he brings up some pretty interesting similarities between autistic savants and sasquatch. 

 

Absolutely fascinating! I've never heard of Noel, and am amazed that he's written six such Sasquatch books. I'll have to check it out............

[Redbone]

5 hours ago, Huntster said:

 

Absolutely fascinating! I've never heard of Noel, and am amazed that he's written six such Sasquatch books. I'll have to check it out............

I have not read many but the "Impossible Visits" book is really good in my opinion. The next few books are basically copies of it with maybe a little more info.

He later fell for the Rick Dyer shooting bigfoot hoax and put it in a book. I certainly skipped that one. I still like a lot of his ideas.

 

You can find his videos online here https://www.youtube.com/@impossiblevisits/videos

Just be aware that you'll also find woo here. I'm good with that, but I know some are not. People should not ignore all the content just because they may not believe some of it.

 

I sort of think he may be a member of this forum, but have not seen him post anything for a very long time.

[Trogluddite]

17 hours ago, MIB said:

My theory is it improves depth perception by allowing viewing of something from greater separation than just eye-width.   I think it goes hand in hand with their reputed phenomenal aim and power when throwing, when using throwing as a weapon or hunting tool.

 

16 hours ago, bipedalist said:

Swaying could be consistent with the autistic personality theory re: sasquatch too, can be one of the traits of autism.

 

Not rocking or stimming necessarily but possibly a self-soothing mechanism to alleviate anxiety if there is a recognized human approach, incident or encounter.

 

The night of my sighting I could make out the glide, don't remember swaying but nervous head movements back and forth seen.

  

 

 

Both of these theories seem sound, given that I did some swaying on a hike a long time ago, both to improve my vision of an object and to calm my nerves.  No bs, there I was (if I may digress, that's how many veterans start their war stories; the difference between a war story and a fairy tale is that the latter  starts with "once upon a time").  

 

So, no bs, there I was at the end of a long (12 miles) hike through the Black Rock state forest in the lower Hudson Valley.  https://www.blackrockforest.org/.  Like most parks there are a lot of short, heavily trafficked trails for the tourists and longer ones which the locals know - mine was longer because I started from my house and hiked 2-3 miles just to get to the park.  I'm on the return trip when I casually look to my right and about 75-100 yards away in the woods is ...

 

A freaking African lion, female I presume, because there is no huge mane.  But I can clearly see the beautiful tawny yellow-brown fur of the head and ears peaking up just above some brush looking at me.  I stop dead in my tracks facing the lion.  I stare at the lion.  The lion stares at me.  I'm telling myself that there is no way an African lion is in the woods of rural, nearly suburban, southern New York.  But I can see it.  But I know that it can't be an African lion.  So I started shifting my position to the left and right, trying to get a better view.  (I didn't want to make any sudden moves and startle it or invite it over for dinner.)  Meanwhile, I'm using the time to collect my wits (not many, I know), but all I am still seeing is a lion.  But the lion isn't moving.

 

So I take one or two small sidesteps and/or blink and I am suddenly looking at ... the butt end of a recently sawed down tree.  I had looked at from just the right angle to hide the trunk of the tree, the stump was covered by shrubs and brush, and the downed crown of the tree blended into the background brush.  The trunk wasn't perfectly circular, so I "saw" ears and there were some defects in the wood that I perceived as "eyes." 

 

I cursed and laughed at myself the whole way home, thankful that I had worn my brown pants (I'll put the full joke in the Tar Pit). 

 

On another walk in town, I saw a 10-12' foot tall extremely skinny person walking toward me.  I knew he had to be really tall because the speed limit sign behind him only reached to just under his armpit.  As we walked closer together, the angle of my vision changed, the speed limit sign disappeared behind the dip in the road which I knew was there, and he was just a regular guy again.  No swaying that time, but I certainly slowed up just a minute when I first say this "alien."