3 missing hikers found together in Olympic NP?

[norseman]

5 minutes ago, Huntster said:

 

Sorry. I musta' missed that in the storyline.

No worries bud.

[BobbyO]

On 1/19/2025 at 12:56 AM, norseman said:

 

 

I was on an OP group get together when this guy had just gone missing, pretty sure DR and a few others joined the active search.

 

There was a sighting (nothing to do with the OP but close to where we were) up at Sol Duc in that time frame by a women who was watching a black head pop up from behind a rock up on a ridge then duck back down over and over for a while, up near the Hot Springs.

On 1/19/2025 at 4:03 AM, norseman said:

I too saw Derek in the video. It would be nice to know if this was an accurate portrayal or click bait. But if 3 hikers remains separated by a decade all end up in the same exact spot? Thats not a predator. Thats either a human or Sasquatch. And the phone footage if real is super creepy as well.

 

I still say that some of the 411 missing data base has some merit. Much of it mundane. Some of it is beyond bizarre.

 

Ahhh there we go, i'll watch the video this evening..

[Explorer]

I have not watched the video posted above, but I did read the book about the disappearance of Jacob Gray and wrote a book review back in 2020 in BFF (see link below).

I thought it was a good book, but there was nothing related to Sasquatch in this sad case.

 

 

 

[norseman]

1 hour ago, Explorer said:

I have not watched the video posted above, but I did read the book about the disappearance of Jacob Gray and wrote a book review back in 2020 in BFF (see link below).

I thought it was a good book, but there was nothing related to Sasquatch in this sad case.

 

 

 

So no other two missing hikers remains found with Jacob. And no cell phone footage of a mysterious dark figure on the ridge. Click bait.🫤

 

Thank you!

 

 

[bipedalist]

I figured the OP must have been involved with Derek, sorry I missed the original book report of the incident, sounds like a good read. 

Sounds like they provided a great deal of help and comfort so kudos to that crew during the search. 

[Trogluddite]

Okay, forgive me for I am about to be a royal party pooper. 

 

Jacob Gray's last known position when he disappeared (based on the initial discovery of his bike and gear) was near the Sol Duc Hot Springs Road just off State Route 110 and near Lake Crescent.  See http://www.mibsar.com/Cases/Gray/Gray.html.  According to newspapers at the time that his remains were discovered (see, e.g., https://www.kitsapdailynews.com/news/update-remains-confirmed-as-hiker-missing-since-2017-in-olympic-national-park/ but you have to disable ad blockers), he was found in a remote area of the Daniel J. Evans Wilderness somewhere "near" Hoh Lake in the Olympic National Park.  A very rough straight line distance is 13 miles, but it was probably a longer hike than that from his start point to where he was recovered.  It is easy to see a scenario where he started off on what he thought would be an easy hike and became disoriented or injured.   

 

That same newspaper article describes that the remains were found by a field crew of Olympic National Park employees and volunteers (later identified in the article as marmot biologists).  The article says nothing about finding other bones anywhere near the body, nothing about finding arrows stuck in the ground, and nothing about a phone being recovered. 

 

Contrary to what the video claims, Jacob left Port Townsend to bike cross-country from Washington to Vermont, where his brother lived, not "to head into the Olympic Mountains."  See https://charleyproject.org/case/jacob-randall-gray.  There is no indication that he had a compound bow and arrows with him.  See http://www.mibsar.com/Cases/Gray/Gray.html, with the list of items to look out for at the end.  See also the link to the next news article, below, which states that the trailer contained food, clothing, emergency blankets, bike repair items and a first-aid kit, sleeping bag, tent, tarp and pocket survival guides, according to the [National Park Service's S&R] report.  When remains were found, the marmot biologists found abandoned equipment and clothing, not "a bone hidden in a dense patch of forest."  In fact, the law enforcement agency in charge of the recovery reported that what was initially found does not make investigators believe foul play was involved.  See the newspaper article above.  A forensic anthropologist determined that he probably died of natural causes.  See https://www.peninsuladailynews.com/news/hiker-probably-died-of-natural-causes/. 

 

Given the number of blatant misstatements of fact, whether done erroneously or intentionally, I just stopped checking every line of the transcript here.  However, the missing Canadian hunter is likely Maxime Jacques, not "Jack" or Jacques Maxim.  See https://www.facebook.com/people/Maxime-Jacques-of-Trois-Rivieres-Qc-Canada-Missing/100066868935840/.  I will defer to our Canadian brothers and sisters in the search, but I believe he's missing in Quebec.  I couldn't find a Diane Bruno (or Jacques Maxim) in Canada's (shockingly large) missing person database, but there is a Diane who went missing in St. Bruno.

 

The point of all this (if I have any) is not to dissuade people from sharing spooky and enjoyable stories.  But given the growth of Bigfoot as a profit center, necessary to support real researchers and just pure gravy for story tellers, coupled with AI, is providing way too many of these stories, which risk drowning out valid research...

 

Kudos to Bigfooters in the area for pitching in on the S&R effort; competent searchers are always necessary.

 

I'll be outside shaking my fist at the clouds if anyone is looking for me....

[FLY]

This Channel regularly promotes false stories embellished to make them more  frightening and proof of existence of cryptics.  Several days ago I watched their video "The Vanishing of Thomas Burd The Alaskan Horror and Bigfoot Encounter" It, like this video provided details, photos  and even a realistic video purported to have been found on the victims phone of some creature banging on a trailer and growling.  I looked it up and found no missing Thomas Burd. But I did find his photo under a missing person report named     THOMAS SEIBOLD. Who contrary to the video did not leave a journal detailing him being followed by some creature or a camera phone video.

"Published: December 9, 2012
Weeks ago, winter locked the Brooks Range mountains of Alaska's far northwest in its long, cold embrace, and it's clear that out there somewhere near the Arctic edge of the North American continent lies the body of Thomas Seibold. A search by Alaska State Troopers, complicated by no clear idea of where exactly to look for the German-born adventurer, ended in November. Friends and coworkers of Seibold from the Teaching Drum Outdoor School in Three Lakes, Wisc., took up the hunt afterwards, but they have gone home after a last-ditch effort found no trace. ( Anchorage Daily News).  

   The guy from the YT channel " The outdoor Gear Review" has related that he has found clips from his videos on other channels purporting to say him being attacked or disappearing because of Bigfoot. There's a lot of ******** out there